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xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
November 16 2010 19:46 GMT
#61
Lol well i havent seen any of those Pro's then at least. Last game my teammates went mass corsairs(and no, he didnt make any reavers or robo tech at all. only ever made 1 gate, lol) and 1 gas carriers. Needless to say, i didnt do so well when the push arrived at my base lol
Aah thats the stuff..
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 20:43:56
November 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#62
I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.

Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun.

FMP is really fun when you get to learn the builds too, nothing beats macroing from 20 raxs and trying to micro them at the same time too, its just crazy fun.

On November 13 2010 12:10 ePalm wrote:
Some strategies on BGH just don't work like they do in low money maps, so that is why it is called a noob map. For example, starving your opponent isn't really an option since they basically have two bases worth of resources with 50k per patch. Although noobs often realize that and therefore never expand, so in response it is funny just go to straight to 4-5 base and then roflstomp them.

Also total Terran imbalance because you can perfect wall at every single position and just turtle the entire game.


Play low money Hunters and starvation is a valid tactic. I remember one memorable time i had as Zerg, which is hard to begin with, winning against TPP by simpy denying expansions for about 20 minutes until they gave up.

On November 13 2010 13:27 Not_Computer wrote:
Though I'd disagree that the BGH population wasn't notably hurt by SC2, the BGH community is definitely still active alongside people playing Fastest (though can't really say they have a 'community', as far as I know). BGH players are definitely the most eccentric of the BW scene. If I were to make a random comparison, I'd say "low money" would be the track where professional (or wannabe pro) racers practice, while BGH is the streets where the cool kids hang out, do crazy stuff and generally just hang out and chill together.


You heard of VGT? Fastest definitely has a community, even a very popular ladder that run for 20+ seasons with upto 30k games played in them (although they say this one is the last one ) Hacking is unfortunately what is ruining pub games of it, the only hope is to play against VGT people (channel Clash on USWest usually iirc).
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9454 Posts
November 16 2010 20:42 GMT
#63
On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote:
I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.

Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun.

I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1969 Posts
November 16 2010 20:44 GMT
#64
BW is in desperate need of patching.


What?
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
November 16 2010 20:48 GMT
#65
On November 17 2010 04:46 xarthaz wrote:
Lol well i havent seen any of those Pro's then at least. Last game my teammates went mass corsairs(and no, he didnt make any reavers or robo tech at all. only ever made 1 gate, lol) and 1 gas carriers. Needless to say, i didnt do so well when the push arrived at my base lol


Didn't you see the reps where idra and nony got smashed on bgh by some top bgh players? And yea, if you play pubs of course you're gonna get new players in the game...
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
November 16 2010 20:52 GMT
#66
On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote:
I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.

Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun.

I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching?

The 1t2t, to be specific. Combining it with the firing angles has made BW incredibly imbalanced.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 21:03:04
November 16 2010 21:02 GMT
#67
On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote:
I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.

Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun.

I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching?


Mineral hack, various lobby hacks (you can be kicked out of your OWN game with one of them), spawn 500 drone hacks, make any unit you like invincible, nuke anywhere works again, drophack that cannot be stopped by protection. Someone suggested theres a hack which makes yout units kill themselves i cannot confirm or deny this, but the others i know 100% are true.

Plus now BWHF doesn't let you check players in lobby without a donation... so i literally cannot even avoid autominers/auto requeue and the other obvious hacks anymore. I was playing public BGH/FMP every day till that happened. Don't you think this is worthy of patching? Even automining and multicommand could be easily fixed if they could be bothered.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9454 Posts
November 16 2010 21:52 GMT
#68
On November 17 2010 05:52 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote:
I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.

Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun.

I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching?

The 1t2t, to be specific. Combining it with the firing angles has made BW incredibly imbalanced.

Yeah, this is the source of Surfer's true powers. I bet he even made all his passwords with that combination allowing him to log in on any website in matter of nanoseconds. Once, he crashed our whole site because he typed in his password too fast.


On November 17 2010 06:02 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote:
I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.

Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun.

I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching?


Mineral hack, various lobby hacks (you can be kicked out of your OWN game with one of them), spawn 500 drone hacks, make any unit you like invincible, nuke anywhere works again, drophack that cannot be stopped by protection. Someone suggested theres a hack which makes yout units kill themselves i cannot confirm or deny this, but the others i know 100% are true.

Plus now BWHF doesn't let you check players in lobby without a donation... so i literally cannot even avoid autominers/auto requeue and the other obvious hacks anymore. I was playing public BGH/FMP every day till that happened. Don't you think this is worthy of patching? Even automining and multicommand could be easily fixed if they could be bothered.

I see where is the problem. You can't play public games on Bnet and expect a fair game. But this is also sometimes the fun part. You play a public game with friends crushing hackers with weird tactics which makes it more challengeable. Until they drop hack you that is.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
November 16 2010 22:10 GMT
#69
I'd like to organize some bgh with some of you guys one day. Would be fun...
Chains none
rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States115 Posts
November 16 2010 23:03 GMT
#70
On November 17 2010 06:02 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 05:42 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On November 17 2010 05:36 infinity2k9 wrote:
I still played BGH and FMP up until recently but BW is in desperate need of patching.

Btw 3v3 Hunters, which is extremely popular with Koreans, is great fun also and requires good micro and excellent decision making. Play well or they will get mad at you and type a lot of what i assume to be bad things in Korean. I think i prefer it to BGH as Z is a bit more useful and fun.

I'm curious. What exactly in BW needs desperate patching?


Mineral hack, various lobby hacks (you can be kicked out of your OWN game with one of them), spawn 500 drone hacks, make any unit you like invincible, nuke anywhere works again, drophack that cannot be stopped by protection. Someone suggested theres a hack which makes yout units kill themselves i cannot confirm or deny this, but the others i know 100% are true.

Plus now BWHF doesn't let you check players in lobby without a donation... so i literally cannot even avoid autominers/auto requeue and the other obvious hacks anymore. I was playing public BGH/FMP every day till that happened. Don't you think this is worthy of patching? Even automining and multicommand could be easily fixed if they could be bothered.

Most of these hacks you mentioned have been patched, or never existed. The only hacks that are working currently are lobby hack (host hack), drop hack, multicommand, spoof, map, lag hack, and build anywhere hack. The rest are a figment of your imagination.
Maybe to solve your bwhf conundrum you should donate to dakota, he spent 10k + hours developing bwhf, and continues to this day to pay the monthly bills for the equipment that makes bwhf work (even though he doesn't even play bw anymore).

Furthermore as pac stated, playing private games formed in the channel )v( on east are 98% hack free. And much higher in skill and more enjoyable granted you avoid a a select few trolls.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
November 16 2010 23:31 GMT
#71
Public was fine before BWHF was donation only though, and the hacks at this point at too ridiculous to even play against. Its got out of hand imo.
rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States115 Posts
November 16 2010 23:38 GMT
#72
You already said this. I'll summarize what I said to solve this dilemma:
1. Donate to BWHF, or
2. Don't play public.
NoiSolpX
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands20 Posts
November 16 2010 23:43 GMT
#73
YES! <3
This is awesome. I started playing maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago and I got hooked on BGH. I even tried to search for some recent BGH thread I've seen on the forums but it couldn't find it
2v2, 3v3, 4v4 it doesn't matter, they all kick ass if you have decently balanced teams (skillwise) and it can make for really fun games :D
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
November 16 2010 23:54 GMT
#74
It's always strange to hear the phrase "low money maps," when that is in fact, the normal way to play the game.
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
November 16 2010 23:59 GMT
#75
I remember when I was in middle school, I played BGH with my friends and turtled up more than Flash. Good times.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
November 17 2010 00:13 GMT
#76
On November 17 2010 08:38 rich- wrote:
You already said this. I'll summarize what I said to solve this dilemma:
1. Donate to BWHF, or
2. Don't play public.


I already plan to donate actually, but it's a sad situation to be in where you literally cannot play a public game because of hackers in almost every game. Even WITH bwhf it's not foolproof. It's not even as simple as just 'don't play public' anyway... unless you spend some time hanging around in some channels and being a part of the community. I'd love to jump onto bnet, join the first game i see and have fun and to be honest it's being ruined and puts me off even bothering.

Surely having a single coder patch a few things wouldn't be so fucking hard for Blizzard to do if they really do mean anything they ever say about 'supporting' the game.
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
November 17 2010 01:27 GMT
#77
BGH is a fun map
You can play with anybody specially noobs so its never a good idea to take it seriously
And because of that I always play terran so I can BC rush and pwnd everyone !! or maybe even nuke !!
60% if d times I have a good time in this map specially with NUKES
kekeke
Tekken ProGamer
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 17 2010 04:22 GMT
#78
Oh man the memories. Hoping I was at either the 11:00 or 12:00 position and that the other position was empty so I could FE there! yes, I used to FE on BGH. If the position was occupied by an enemy, I'd CHEESE THE SHIT out of them and then take their base. Then I'd be on the equivalent of 4 "normal map" bases (5 if I felt like taking the in-between one) and just turtle up and skyrocket to 200/200 while MAAAAAAYBE reaver drop harassing but probably just spamming the shit out of units. before doing some epic recalling
SubPointOA
Profile Joined November 2010
United States183 Posts
November 17 2010 06:10 GMT
#79
I thought TL was a low money 1v1 forum o.0
Just stick with the flow to rock the whole globe
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9454 Posts
November 17 2010 12:27 GMT
#80
On November 17 2010 15:10 SubPointOA wrote:
I thought TL was a low money 1v1 forum o.0

It's ok, when I first came here I thought TL was an online dating service.
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