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strik.fr
Profile Joined May 2006
France212 Posts
May 26 2006 12:56 GMT
#1
Since the tale of fayth being raped I wanted to try to play them. And i was totally surprised by their level : they are not big noobs like i thought (on their channels like brood war bgh on europe) some are quite good : I dont want to talk about my level but i'm about c+ pgt and i lost 2-3 to one on them (1-1 on luna ( what a shame) 1-2on bgh).Even if I still think bgh is crappy the openings and strats can be quite different
One of my friend who is quite best than me ( b- pgtour) lost 2-0 on bgh..
Try em u will be surprised ( anyway I think some mapahck)
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YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
May 26 2006 13:09 GMT
#2
playing bgh does not make you a n00b. its a different game from limited maps and i think its annoying when ppl automatically assume anyone who plays on bgh is a n00b. theres a fair share of them in public games of course, but there are also a good, if not equal, number of terrible players in LT pubs.

yes some of them probably maphack, though no less than pub LT players i dont think.

im sure you're ashamed of losing a game on luna, but i'm sure hes just as ashamed of losing a game on bgh to you.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
May 26 2006 13:19 GMT
#3
then again luna is just about as mindless as bgh.
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Jin
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Canada439 Posts
May 26 2006 13:26 GMT
#4
Did Fayth lose to k00lam on luna? I remember somewhere someone saying the guy he played was k00lams aka on Europe.
^-^v
[angst]chraej
Profile Joined January 2006
1445 Posts
May 26 2006 13:35 GMT
#5
no you guys are wrong, bgh does make you a noob, you just a trained noob, therefore you know how to mass units as fast as you possibly can and mindlessly send them at your opponent, or else you can bunker in and go straight for BC tech, after you set up 100 + turrets that is. (these are the only strats i came across after reading this and having a go at it...)
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
May 26 2006 13:42 GMT
#6
Rofl, cant you guys who consider bgh a no map skill shut the fuck up?

You just got owned by the same guys who you considered "newbs"

And if what you say is true, you also got owned on a non money map which they most likely didnt know or didnt play often.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
May 26 2006 13:44 GMT
#7
bgh is a good practice for macro and micro that's all. less use of terrain and more limits on strategies to employ, but nothing like what [angst]chraej said.
Nemesis has left the building~
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
May 26 2006 13:51 GMT
#8
its the same as blood bath players
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alphablend
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
647 Posts
May 26 2006 13:57 GMT
#9
On May 26 2006 22:51 ZaplinG wrote:
its the same as blood bath players


I disagree with that. BGH is more about macro, BB is more about micro. I will agree that both groups are highly specialized and will probably rape LT players on their map.
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
May 26 2006 13:59 GMT
#10
On May 26 2006 22:57 alphablend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2006 22:51 ZaplinG wrote:
its the same as blood bath players


I disagree with that. BGH is more about macro, BB is more about micro.


orly?
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
May 26 2006 14:06 GMT
#11
ok let's take a recap

1 you lost to non-money mappers
2 you lost to money mappers
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
May 26 2006 14:09 GMT
#12
On May 26 2006 22:44 AK-Nemesis wrote:
bgh is a good practice for macro and micro that's all. less use of terrain and more limits on strategies to employ, but nothing like what [angst]chraej said.

good post. bgh might have some limited options compared to other maps (luna is a lot like this too for you elitists), but its like learning any other map. good players will be good on bgh just like good players will be good on any other map, and bad players will be bad regardless of the map.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
SnoopySnacks
Profile Joined May 2003
Tarsonis903 Posts
May 26 2006 14:11 GMT
#13
bgh takes skill but its boring. LT ftw
Holy shit I'm good. Why u easy?
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-26 14:18:48
May 26 2006 14:17 GMT
#14
double post, sorry
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
May 26 2006 14:18 GMT
#15
No, bgh games DO require skill at the highest level (of bgh gamers). I too was under the misconception that bgh requires only macro, until i started playing it. You need solid micro, supremely solid macro, good builds (which are unique to bgh) and excellent team coordination to win. In my experience, at the highest level, 3v3 and 2v2 bgh games are harder than team hunters game you'll find in korean channels like brood war ladder on west.

And yes, the guy fayth lost to on Luna is k00lam. The guy he lost to on bgh is one of koolams teammates.
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
May 26 2006 14:20 GMT
#16
And most bgh players have now started playing Luna a lot, so yeah, they know the map well.
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
May 26 2006 15:01 GMT
#17
if you always join bgh pubbie games, then expect to see plenty of newbies who love to block their entrance and hope nothing happens for 30 mins. but there ARE skilled bgh players who also play non money maps. skilled as in adequate in micro/macro, since that's what bgh requires. if i only join the public 1v1 on bnet, surely i would find plenty of newbies, but that's no reason for me to conclude that the entire bnet 1v1 population are newbies.
Nemesis has left the building~
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
May 26 2006 15:44 GMT
#18
whats up with fayth and this k00lam guy. can anyone link me to the thread this came up in?
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
oHInsane
Profile Joined February 2005
France727 Posts
May 26 2006 16:10 GMT
#19
it is in the "closed section", a low-money map team is supposed to fight against a bgh team this sundy ( with players like fayth, midian, testie, that is what they said on their bgh clan webpage).
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
May 26 2006 16:18 GMT
#20
On May 27 2006 00:44 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
whats up with fayth and this k00lam guy. can anyone link me to the thread this came up in?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=40135
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