[News] KeSPA announces their official stance - Page 2

On October 28 2010 18:33 Moderas wrote:
I havnt been following the KeSPA/Blizz situation that closely as I didnt start watching competitive SC until SC2 came out. Because of my lack of info feel free to correct me if im wrong. What i've gathered is that KeSPA was holding tournaments without a contract or something (Violated IP rights?) and Blizz wants them to pay a lot of money for it even though KeSPA is responsible for probably half of their income from SC anyway?

On October 28 2010 18:44 ricerocket wrote:
Haha, what's with that holier-than-thou attitude about being a non-profit? Especially since, from what they've said in the press release, it's not that they don't want profit, it's that they've yet to make enough investment in the infrastructure to turn a profit. So they are non-profit not by choice but by default. Lovely.

On October 28 2010 18:48 shannn wrote:
Is this right ?

KeSPA 1.7 billion won income in 2007
OGN 600 million won spent in 3 years
MBC 600 million won spent in 3 years
IEG 1.5 billion won income in 3 years

KeSPA 1.5 billion won spent to OGN/MBC in 3 years
OGN 750 million won back for broadcasting creation in 3 years / 250 million won a year
MBC 750 million won back for broadcasting creation in 3 years / 250 million won a year

Gretech / Blizz (don't know which one) asks for 700 million won each year.
With the distribution of:
KeSPA 100 million won each year
OGN 300 million won each year
MBC 300 million won each year


Did I do it right ? would really be helpfull if we get a spreadsheet of income/outcome and what the profit/losses would be if gretech/blizz got their demands of fees.

On October 28 2010 18:50 cocoa_sg wrote:


That is a distorted statement you are making. Look at the quote below:

"KeSPA has re-invested the entirety of the broadcasting fees into the operations of the league.
While KeSPA is a non profit organization that supports and raises the eSports industry, it can run profitable endeavors to promote a safe environment and to bolster eSports."

Whether by choice, or by default, Kespa clearly shows enough goodwill to at least promote the growth of e-sports, no matter their shortcomings.

Does it even matter whether Kespa is a non-profit organization or not? Compare their stance on e-sports to Blizzard's; do you really think Blizzard cares about e-sports at all, judging from how they are basically threatening the current BW proscene to extinction?

On October 28 2010 18:51 dybydx wrote:

shann,

KeSPA was talking about the total cost to run the eSport tournaments which included studio fees, staff wages, player prizes etc.

the amounts you mentioned about GOM/Blizz is the fee they want as royalty to license the use of the game. all other costs are on top of it.

On October 28 2010 18:54 ricerocket wrote:


Blizzard doesn't care about eSport? Wow, I don't think I can win an argument with you if that's what you truly believe. I feel sorry for you, being blinded by fanboyism like that.

On October 28 2010 19:00 ricerocket wrote:
Um, that they are trusting the longevity of their new game entirely to the success of its eSport element?

On October 28 2010 18:54 ricerocket wrote:
Blizzard doesn't care about eSport? Wow, I don't think I can win an argument with you if that's what you truly believe. I feel sorry for you, being blinded by fanboyism like that.

On October 28 2010 18:56 cocoa_sg wrote:


Then, would you like to give me several reasons that show Blizzard DOES care about e-sports? Tell me now, before you label anyone a blind fanboy.

On October 28 2010 19:02 stafu wrote:

You might want to change your signature.

I think we can all agree that we can't really trust either side 100%. That said, I can't help but lean slightly more to Blizzard/Gretech's side after KeSPA's history of fuck-ups and their general tone of empty words whenever they make a statement like this.

On October 28 2010 19:04 ricerocket wrote:
I still don't get what makes you think that their suing of KeSPA = them wanting to kill BW.

And even if that is ultimately their goal, it is still a way to push for the evolution of eSport, not to KILL eSport.

Newsflash, BW is a good eSport, but it's not EVERYTHING about eSport. Please see that your BW fanboyism is blinding you and at least try to move away from that when speaking logic.