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_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
September 01 2010 15:30 GMT
#301
On September 01 2010 23:48 Meekee wrote:
GOM clearly wants SC2 to succeed so badly because they weren't ever able to get in with SC:BW because KESPA wouldn't let them. Now they hold the cards and they're being vindictive assholes right back rather than setting an appropriate example of how everything should be able to get along.


wat

gom can get their own players and start their own leagues without trying to remove bw, but instead they screw over all the current teams, players, broadcasting stations, fans and everyone else involved in esports because of their greed. they think they have a right to dismantle the scene and leech off all the hard work just because their game uses the same name with a 2 slapped on it.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 15:40:05
September 01 2010 15:34 GMT
#302
wow wtf GOM if the update is true. they're just getting payback for kespa's douchebaggery and stiff arm their way into the korean esports market.

it looks like there really is no way to settle this other than in the courtroom. the courts could be really interesting as they could rule that having a sole holder of casting/IP rights for BW illegal or just totally shutdown the proleague. who knows.
caughtjoo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States14 Posts
September 01 2010 15:43 GMT
#303
I can equally disagree both sides until the NDA is lifted.

I do not see it ending well however it falls though.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
September 01 2010 15:47 GMT
#304
My hate is redirected to Gretech.
TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
September 01 2010 15:52 GMT
#305
gahahahahah that is horrible news. If I read correctly, Kespa is willing to pay and Gretech is still refusing? wtf wtf wtf!

The GSL news doesn't make things better either. So no proleague AND I can't watch SC2 because I'm not freaking paying to stay up to 6am in the morning to watch.
Friends are simply people you can do/say vulgar things to.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 15:57:17
September 01 2010 15:52 GMT
#306
This is just one of the saddest things ever.
I've watched and enjoyed korean progaming for so many years and now this shit is going on and on.

Letmelose put my rage in words. Nuff sad but fuck you people who are fucking it up for everyone.

Edit: And let me be clear, i don't even care who it is at this moment. This is just a shame.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 01 2010 15:57 GMT
#307
I'm not buying SC2. Fuck you Blizzard.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Pezo
Profile Joined August 2010
England156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 16:04:34
September 01 2010 16:02 GMT
#308
This is like reading a High school drama. Kespa in the past was like "no you don't" to Gretech and boycotted GomTv because they wanted control. Now the shoes on the other foot and Gretech's like "Paybacks a bitch huh" and are now trying to control everything.

There is a lot more too it but i can't help but laugh and be angry at the same time when i read this.

Next time in the Kespa V Gretech show... the news that you may need to take out a small loan to watch GSL and more!
Fts
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden369 Posts
September 01 2010 16:05 GMT
#309
On September 02 2010 00:47 LunarDestiny wrote:
My hate is redirected to Gretech.

FishForThought
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 16:24:44
September 01 2010 16:21 GMT
#310
The thing is Kespa wants to just say, "Heres the money for IP, let us do whatever we want!". Both Blizzard and Gretech can't accept that because they want complete moderation of the e-sport scene and they know that Kespa has a large enough influential factor for being the dominant host of major tournaments for the last 12 years and anything they do can damage Blizzard/Gretech's interest.

The real mastermind behind the scene is actually blizzard. I would assume their contract with gretech is similar to the one they made for UDE for their Card game. Meaning, they will give broadcasting right for maybe next 5-10 years to Gretech, while having conditions/goals for Gretech to meet with the threat of not renewing the contract if the goals/conditions are not met. It is not to say the conditions/goals are ill-intentioned because I would imagine they include things like "Must have an English broadcaster/stream for every major tournament" or "Each league must allow foreigners to attend without the need of a korean pro-gaming team" or something like that.

All in all, this is a battle of old vs the new. Kespa's old way of operating of alienating the masses in support of the few elites (12 pro-gaming team) vs Blizzard/Gretech's vision of esport where everyone can participate and everyone gets their 5min of fame. Which one is better? I don't know, as Kespa's method truly defines who's the best player in the world, while Blizzard/Gretech aims towards natural talent and exposure to the masses as every player have equal chance to make it to the top.
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
September 01 2010 16:23 GMT
#311
Coupled with GSL costs ranging from 30 bucks for VODS watchable for one season and 20 bucks for the live stream, which I asume is only for the current season (who knows if costs will scale for finals and such), things are looking grimmer than ever for the average joe esports fan.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
MaYuu
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Sweden516 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 16:36:14
September 01 2010 16:35 GMT
#312
This is bullshit. There's no way Actiblizz+gretech can even support anything near the magnitude of 3 major leagues and 12 all inclusive teams, there just isn't money enough from their part.

I don't even need to state how fucking greedy they are. KeSPA did this shit for free, all they did was advertise their other products. I wonder what other products actiblizz and gretech advertise.
ehh`?
FishForThought
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada88 Posts
September 01 2010 16:40 GMT
#313
On September 02 2010 01:35 MaYuu wrote:
This is bullshit. There's no way Actiblizz+gretech can even support anything near the magnitude of 3 major leagues and 12 all inclusive teams, there just isn't money enough from their part.

I don't even need to state how fucking greedy they are. KeSPA did this shit for free, all they did was advertise their other products. I wonder what other products actiblizz and gretech advertise.


They can't and they don't want to. Gretech/Blizzard want everyone to have a fair chance @ the top. The 12 pro-gaming teams are like the elite training school, and have a significant advantage over the normal players.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
September 01 2010 16:53 GMT
#314
This makes me so fucking sad. Does that until this resolve is disputed, we won't be seeing MSL, OSL, or PL for a while? (hopefully not forever). I can't believe the game that is the #1 esports game can possibly fucking die to greedy scums. This makes me so sad and makes me appreciate every live BW moment more and more.

I can't believe some people are actually supporting Blizzard here. It's not like SC2 would prosper right after BW's death...
AugustZerg
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4 Posts
September 01 2010 16:58 GMT
#315
I'm sure in the future they'll just build a broodwar clone call it: "sudden real time strategy" claim it's superior to broodwar and force the pros to play it instead.
my life for aiur
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 01 2010 17:00 GMT
#316
On September 02 2010 01:40 FishForThought wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 01:35 MaYuu wrote:
This is bullshit. There's no way Actiblizz+gretech can even support anything near the magnitude of 3 major leagues and 12 all inclusive teams, there just isn't money enough from their part.

I don't even need to state how fucking greedy they are. KeSPA did this shit for free, all they did was advertise their other products. I wonder what other products actiblizz and gretech advertise.


They can't and they don't want to. Gretech/Blizzard want everyone to have a fair chance @ the top. The 12 pro-gaming teams are like the elite training school, and have a significant advantage over the normal players.



yes. they're gonna go back to the days where "progamers" sit in cramped apartments and eat ramen and 3 minute instant foods all fucking day.

that's what they want lol, "prize hunters", not "progamers". This is, after all, esporst 2.0.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 01 2010 17:04 GMT
#317
On September 02 2010 02:00 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 01:40 FishForThought wrote:
On September 02 2010 01:35 MaYuu wrote:
This is bullshit. There's no way Actiblizz+gretech can even support anything near the magnitude of 3 major leagues and 12 all inclusive teams, there just isn't money enough from their part.

I don't even need to state how fucking greedy they are. KeSPA did this shit for free, all they did was advertise their other products. I wonder what other products actiblizz and gretech advertise.


They can't and they don't want to. Gretech/Blizzard want everyone to have a fair chance @ the top. The 12 pro-gaming teams are like the elite training school, and have a significant advantage over the normal players.



yes. they're gonna go back to the days where "progamers" sit in cramped apartments and eat ramen and 3 minute instant foods all fucking day.

that's what they want lol, "prize hunters", not "progamers". This is, after all, esporst 2.0.

do you REALLY want a proleague?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 01 2010 17:04 GMT
#318
Seriously, I HIGHLY doubt that SC:BW players would want to make a switch to SC2. Come on these players have a passion for BW, they really LOVE the game. Now Blizzard/Gretach is forcing SC2 on them, they won't enjoy it as much as BW, they would all end up not liking the game and be jobless....
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 01 2010 17:22 GMT
#319
On September 02 2010 02:04 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 02:00 Milkis wrote:
On September 02 2010 01:40 FishForThought wrote:
On September 02 2010 01:35 MaYuu wrote:
This is bullshit. There's no way Actiblizz+gretech can even support anything near the magnitude of 3 major leagues and 12 all inclusive teams, there just isn't money enough from their part.

I don't even need to state how fucking greedy they are. KeSPA did this shit for free, all they did was advertise their other products. I wonder what other products actiblizz and gretech advertise.


They can't and they don't want to. Gretech/Blizzard want everyone to have a fair chance @ the top. The 12 pro-gaming teams are like the elite training school, and have a significant advantage over the normal players.



yes. they're gonna go back to the days where "progamers" sit in cramped apartments and eat ramen and 3 minute instant foods all fucking day.

that's what they want lol, "prize hunters", not "progamers". This is, after all, esporst 2.0.

do you REALLY want a proleague?

actually yes. some of my fav moments watching BW have came from Proleague. in particular - FBH.
...from the land of imba
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
September 01 2010 17:25 GMT
#320
On September 02 2010 02:22 dybydx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 02:04 Plexa wrote:
On September 02 2010 02:00 Milkis wrote:
On September 02 2010 01:40 FishForThought wrote:
On September 02 2010 01:35 MaYuu wrote:
This is bullshit. There's no way Actiblizz+gretech can even support anything near the magnitude of 3 major leagues and 12 all inclusive teams, there just isn't money enough from their part.

I don't even need to state how fucking greedy they are. KeSPA did this shit for free, all they did was advertise their other products. I wonder what other products actiblizz and gretech advertise.


They can't and they don't want to. Gretech/Blizzard want everyone to have a fair chance @ the top. The 12 pro-gaming teams are like the elite training school, and have a significant advantage over the normal players.



yes. they're gonna go back to the days where "progamers" sit in cramped apartments and eat ramen and 3 minute instant foods all fucking day.

that's what they want lol, "prize hunters", not "progamers". This is, after all, esporst 2.0.

do you REALLY want a proleague?

actually yes. some of my fav moments watching BW have came from Proleague. in particular - FBH.


Plexa was sarcastic here...
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