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You're wrong if you think that her letting you fuck five girls and have a break in the relationship would help at all. Either you forgive her, or you don't. That's it.
Now that you're there, just make the best of it NOW instead of waiting for her to come clean once you've returned back to your home country. Just remember that it's vitally important to be absolutely honest about the whole mess to get it cleared and out of the way before continuing any further.
I seem to be repeating the previous post; gl.
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Oh yeah, the girl seems to be naive little hysterical scared crybaby who's delusional about the real world and lives in a fantasy; hell, she's probably religious too. Don't listen to the last post in the sixth page, because that's exactly why you should try it again, as I think you're quite well matched there. Your fatherly guardian instincts will pulse in glee as you can finally nurture something even more frail than yourself and you'll grow. Maybe some day you'll even grow up to have an equal relationship, with no lies and childish coys.
Cheer up!
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I wanted to say something witty and hilarious like inc but I feel like there's a slim possibility that you're telling the truth, so here's my advice.
I was in a similar situation before, but with an RL girlfriend of 4 years. With me, she said everything I wanted to hear and was just my perfect little angel. Behind my back she cheated on me... For about 10 months...
Now, I'm also relatively intellectual and intelligent, but I didn't know what to do when my friends came to me telling me that she's being unfaithful. She outright denied it, and very believably. Okay, so things look good. Finally, as more evidence streamed in, I was so paranoid and anxious and frustrated that I just checked her msn chat log folder to try to put these rumors to death. Sadly, I did indeed find her talking up an old friend of mine, them flirting, private shit like that, etc... Of course it may have been wrong of me to check but I didn't care at that point. It was a relationship of 4 years and I Was ready to marry her. So I asked her what it was and she cried violently and begged my forgiveness. She looked me in the eyes, begged forgiveness, said she'll never talk to him again, said there was nothing there, etc... I wanted to believe her, and it sounds like YOU want to believe Mischy. The problem is, the insane ones are always very, very, very good actors. My Ex's parents were also fucked up, and I can't help but think that there is a correlation there.
I forgave her because more than anything I wanted the relationship to work. This issue came up multiple times over that last 10 months. She would always cry and say she loved me and beg forgiveness. And this wasn't fake crying, this was real emotion.
Finally, after all the forgiveness in the world and understanding in the world, (I still at this point had no concrete evidence that they were fucking.) she finally left me the day before her birthday to go get shitfaced with that guy and go fuck him a lot. Lawl?
The point of the story is. The ones that cheat and lie, they do it because they know they can get away with it. They know they can cry, they can come up with excuses and bring in friends to accept blame. (My ex did literally all those things.) Most people are slaves to their emotions but these people can control them and manipulate them to make them cry real tears of sadness when she could be, and might be, crying tears of guilt and pain.
The problem is. She's a liar. Those are her chatlogs I can guarantee. I promise you. I also promise you they aren't the only ones, and I also promise you that there will be more. You can never trust someone who can look you in the eyes, cry, say they love you, and still lie to your face.
It's not a repressed memory. She knows that she can pretend it is and she knows that if you 'love' her enough, she can get away with it.
The only thing that can help these people in the long term is to leave them the second they are disloyal. Show them that they cannot get away with it and no amount of affection can obscure the truth from light. Sadly this means that you can never have a successful relationship with her. If you think she's fixed, she won't do it anymore, and get back together, she will further believe in her acting abilities and her own selfish gains.
This relationship is over. You can, like me, live in denial, feel happy and blissful, have wonderful sex and plan a future. But it will end, and along the way everyone will be hurt more. Because you can love a liar, but you can never know if that liar really loves you.
She seems "perfect" to you because you've allowed yourself to fall for her completely. You love her. So yes, she seems perfect to you. But when you fall for someone else. Someone sane, that new person will be perfect to you. My advice, wait for that one.
Sorry man. GTFO.
Now, incase this is a troll. + Show Spoiler +I think I saw her and amanda on spankwire.
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I think you wrote this blog hoping somebody will write a reply that matches what you already want to do.
You know what to do.
Whatever you that you feel is the right thing to do, is the right thing to do.
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On April 18 2009 03:37 Wohmfg wrote:I'm sorry, what? Also, if you're looking for broads in clubs and expecting to find someone worthy in a week then you're going about finding a girl in the wrong way.
trust
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Actually niteReloaded, I really don't know. There are some things I won't do, and most of them involve rash actions without thinking about it thoroughly. I REALLY have not made my mind up.
Thanks VERY much for that post nintu...I assure you this is not a troll so thanks for putting yourself out on a line to give me that.
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On April 18 2009 03:30 HamerD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2009 03:11 d(O.o)a wrote: You have to keep in mind that your friend probably told her to do X and she responded by doing X therefor she is lying GG EZ. I've already said but the reason this is so fucked up is how hysterical, WITH NO LET UP, she is being. I've never seen an actor pull off this sort of emotion for a day straight. It fucks me over...if she were just like *scratches head and looks sideways* 'gee...uh....where you get that...?' it would be open and fucking shut.
Allow me to share a conversation between me and my mom when I was 13
I used to do this all the time.
MOM I SWEAR IT WAS NOT MY POT I HAVE NO CLUE HOW IT GOT IN MY BACKPACK
Oh don't pull that I know it was yours
NO I SWEAR I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE I DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO GET WEED
Dont you lie to me boy you just wait until your father gets home
WHAT THE FUCK *tears* I DONT KNOW HOW THAT GOT HERE DONT TELL DAD I HAVE NO CLUE WHO PUT IT IN MY BACKPACK BUT IT DEFINITELY WASNT ME AND DONT TELL DAD BECAUSE HE WILL KICK ME OUT. */tears*
Okay fine but I better not catch you with marijuana ever again.
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I think everything that you need to hear has already been said, so I'll keep this brief. Regardless of whatever explanation Amanda gives, I think this situation is so incredibly strange that even if you forgive your GF now, you'll never be able to completely put it behind you. For your own sake, get out now, before you're even more hurt.
Also, I'm no tech expert, but I think you need some very good equipment to pull of what she says was pulled of (think CIA etc.).
Hope this helps.
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Thanks to both of you for those last 2 posts, the lying thing in the first one is really interesting.
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whats her msn? I mightve been one of the dudes e-boning her.
wsup den?
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well I've only read the first post here (yeye call me a bad poster but there's 7 fucking pages), and here's basically what you do: Call your friend and ask him "Did you chat with her about this and that?" if he says "Yes, yes I did" then tell the whore to go to hell and go back home. Don't talk to your friend for a couple of weeks/months and then go back to talking to him.
Ye 'ol bros before hoes
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On April 18 2009 06:37 404.Nintu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I wanted to say something witty and hilarious like inc but I feel like there's a slim possibility that you're telling the truth, so here's my advice. I was in a similar situation before, but with an RL girlfriend of 4 years. With me, she said everything I wanted to hear and was just my perfect little angel. Behind my back she cheated on me... For about 10 months... Now, I'm also relatively intellectual and intelligent, but I didn't know what to do when my friends came to me telling me that she's being unfaithful. She outright denied it, and very believably. Okay, so things look good. Finally, as more evidence streamed in, I was so paranoid and anxious and frustrated that I just checked her msn chat log folder to try to put these rumors to death. Sadly, I did indeed find her talking up an old friend of mine, them flirting, private shit like that, etc... Of course it may have been wrong of me to check but I didn't care at that point. It was a relationship of 4 years and I Was ready to marry her. So I asked her what it was and she cried violently and begged my forgiveness. She looked me in the eyes, begged forgiveness, said she'll never talk to him again, said there was nothing there, etc... I wanted to believe her, and it sounds like YOU want to believe Mischy. The problem is, the insane ones are always very, very, very good actors. My Ex's parents were also fucked up, and I can't help but think that there is a correlation there. I forgave her because more than anything I wanted the relationship to work. This issue came up multiple times over that last 10 months. She would always cry and say she loved me and beg forgiveness. And this wasn't fake crying, this was real emotion. Finally, after all the forgiveness in the world and understanding in the world, (I still at this point had no concrete evidence that they were fucking.) she finally left me the day before her birthday to go get shitfaced with that guy and go fuck him a lot. Lawl? The point of the story is. The ones that cheat and lie, they do it because they know they can get away with it. They know they can cry, they can come up with excuses and bring in friends to accept blame. (My ex did literally all those things.) Most people are slaves to their emotions but these people can control them and manipulate them to make them cry real tears of sadness when she could be, and might be, crying tears of guilt and pain. The problem is. She's a liar. Those are her chatlogs I can guarantee. I promise you. I also promise you they aren't the only ones, and I also promise you that there will be more. You can never trust someone who can look you in the eyes, cry, say they love you, and still lie to your face. It's not a repressed memory. She knows that she can pretend it is and she knows that if you 'love' her enough, she can get away with it. The only thing that can help these people in the long term is to leave them the second they are disloyal. Show them that they cannot get away with it and no amount of affection can obscure the truth from light. Sadly this means that you can never have a successful relationship with her. If you think she's fixed, she won't do it anymore, and get back together, she will further believe in her acting abilities and her own selfish gains. This relationship is over. You can, like me, live in denial, feel happy and blissful, have wonderful sex and plan a future. But it will end, and along the way everyone will be hurt more. Because you can love a liar, but you can never know if that liar really loves you. She seems "perfect" to you because you've allowed yourself to fall for her completely. You love her. So yes, she seems perfect to you. But when you fall for someone else. Someone sane, that new person will be perfect to you. My advice, wait for that one. Sorry man. GTFO. Now, incase this is a troll. + Show Spoiler +I think I saw her and amanda on spankwire.
That is an excellent post. I was going to post almost the exact same thing, but the words were stolen before I could finish reading the thread. The only difference really between the two of us was that I actually was married. And she was crazy. And she did lie about it constantly. And she could cry and look me in the eyes and lie like you wouldn't believe.
The point, though, is that either she cheated on you (figuratively or not, it doesn't really matter), or you have what is likely an irrevocably severed trust with/to her. In either case, I can pretty well guarantee you that just sticking with this relationship isn't going to lead to pleasant times.
Good luck, it sounds like you'll need it.
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Ok, dude, we obviously can't tell you what to do, because you know her better than we can from the letters we see on the screen.
But keep this in mind: 1) The image of her that you have in your mind is not her. Take any person you know; the image you have of them is NOT who they are. It may be a good approximation, it may be a bit off. Just don't let yourself go into "but she's not really like that." You're right in one thing: The image of her from your head is not 'like that'. She, on the other hand, may be like 'that' tho.
2) Even if she cheated on you, that doesn't mean she planned this vicious plan or that she's bad or anything. She's just immature - immature people cheat. If you forgive her, and she promises never to do anything like that, she may even mean it with all of her heart, but if she's immature, she's not gonna be able to control herself and she WILL eventually do some similar shit. Until she gradually grows up, which doesn't happen that fast.
3) You don't OWE anything to anybody, especially not love or friendship. When making a decision about this, only keep YOUR wants in mind, only ask yourself what you want.
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this shit is fucking hilarious. it just cant be true. 5/5, would read again. still lmao.
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wow, everybody on tl.net can be Dr. Phil : ) : ) You should probably try asking a series of questions to all three of them, Amanda, ur GF, and your best friend. to see if all their stories stack up. IMO, she's lying.
A wise man once said: life is short, you don't need some dishonest gal playing horny on the internet
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HammerD,
Luckily for you, this was an internet relationship. Do you know what that means? It means that you have all the evidence you need, right on her hard drive. Get an external drive and make an image of her hard drive. Take it home with you and examine it, or pay someone like R1CH to examine it. That will put this issue to bed.
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On April 18 2009 11:29 chongu wrote: wow, everybody on tl.net can be Dr. Phil : ) : ) You should probably try asking a series of questions to all three of them, Amanda, ur GF, and your best friend. to see if all their stories stack up. IMO, she's lying.
A wise man once said: life is short, you don't need some dishonest gal playing horny on the internet wow this is the most intelligent post in this thread.
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just to be clear i wasnt sarcastic.
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