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Can I just start by saying I really would appreciate if people don't take the piss here.
Some of you guys know I have an internet relationship with Mischy. Well I went over to the USA and I'm here now, and it was going fine until I discovered some stuff on her computer. Chat logs from msn where she had been having, it seems, pretty fucked up conversations (sexual etc) with at least two guys from my country.
I was completely horrified and in fact so is she. At first well I thought you've done what is basically cheating in an internet relationship, so I'm off home. However she is scarily convinced that she DIDN'T take part in those conversations. She is in tears the whole time and even her parents say she must be serious- she has never cried in front of them before.
What's worst is that one of the guys was my best friend.
Regardless, I'm not a vengeful or spiteful person. I just need to know should I get the hell out of this relationship or can she be telling the truth.
I've decided that probably one of three things is going on:
a) Michelle did have those conversations, and is lying
b) Michelle did have those conversations, but has repressed them and convinced herself that she is telling the truth
c) Michelle was targeted by a friend in a rather destructive act of ongoing maliciousness.
Now my parents are telling me that it's certain I should get out of this relationship. And I'm pretty certain I should too. The only thing keeping me here is how hysterical Michelle is about it. A friend of hers called up and confessed to having the conversations. However, I just didn't believe it. It sounded like she didn't really have an idea of what had happened, and that she had been somehow put up to it by Michelle or her friends.
So basically the first question I have to you guys is:
There were webcam convos my best friend admitted too (btw he is now completely out of my life forever).
Is there ANY technology out there which lets a person feed captured video of a webcam into MSN, to make it look like it's someone else...and is there any way to program reactions into that???
And the second question is:
What should I do? Lie detector tests? (Plz for god's sake don't say Maury lol) Trust her? GTFO?
Thanks in advance for not being a douchebag and taking a cheap shot.
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United States24495 Posts
As with all of these types of situations, I start with the same question:
"until I discovered some stuff on her computer. Chat logs from msn where she had been having, it seems, pretty fucked up conversations (sexual etc) with at least two guys from my country."
How did you 'discover' them? Honestly if I had chat logs on my computer, the odds of anyone ever finding them are pretty much 0. What were you doing?
Also, you don't really need a lie detector test if you know what sign she is.
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I have to say go with your gut feeling, since that way you won't have any regrets. But I don't think internet dating is a good way to get to know a person, I think you should try dating girls near where you live if possible.
I would GTFO.
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Calgary25954 Posts
oh my god im not even going to touch this one haha
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LOL
I suggest you consult your horoscope.
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To me, the question isn't what she has or has not done, but whether you love her. If you want her and she wants you, then by all means stand by her.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
im leaving the internet forever. peace
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On April 18 2009 02:33 Kennigit wrote: im leaving the internet forever. peace
but how will we keep up our relationship if you leave the internet, jamesy poo? =[
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
just keep talking to my friends and ill check your msn logs now and again when you aren't around
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read the chat logs carefully, you should be able to tell if it was her or an imposter. look at the timestamps, was she around at those times? do some detective work and try figure out if shes telling the truth or not.
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well , personally i thinks shes lying, do you really think a friend of hers downloaded a program which makes a web cam feed looks like shes ur girlfriend just to play a joke, and not admitting it until u came, it sounds way off to me, i've seen times when ppl sign in with someone else's acc and then type things but not on webcam, i guess its possible but i belive its a long shot, now if u really want to be sure even if u do get out of the relationship u can download a key logger or something like that on her computer it records everything she types and i belive screenshots are also taen of her monitor and send to u, u just have to tal to her and know she is on her internet and there u go, i hope this helpp =), and what a cheap shot ur friend took glad he's out of ur life, but u can make him talk to ur girl(u with ur friend not with her) and then ull hear if she says something like plz tell him it was not me, blalba(hes telling him to lye to you) and ull find out
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On April 18 2009 02:36 Heaven_n wrote: well , personally i thinks shes lying, do you really think a friend of hers downloaded a program which makes a web cam feed looks like shes ur girlfriend just to play a joke, and not admitting it until u came, it sounds way off to me, i've seen times when ppl sign in with someone else's acc and then type things but not on webcam, i guess its possible but i belive its a long shot, now if u really want to be sure even if u do get out of the relationship u can download a key logger or something like that on her computer it records everything she types and i belive screenshots are also taen of her monitor and send to u, u just have to tal to her and know she is on her internet and there u go, i hope this helpp =), and what a cheap shot ur friend took glad he's out of ur life, but u can make him talk to ur girl(u with ur friend not with her) and then ull hear if she says something like plz tell him it was not me, blalba(hes telling him to lye to you) and ull find out believe it or not, that was one complete sentence.
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GTFO.
You don't trust her in this and, honestly, it doesn't seem like you ever did if you "discovered" MSN logs on her computer. So, cut your losses and don't stay in a relationship where you start feeling paranoid every time you're away from her. It doesn't matter if she did or didn't do this. I think you have trust issues and, justified or not, they will tear this relationship apart now that you have something that you think she did always in the back of your mind.
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...im literally LOL on this one...at work. Just leave her and find someone new. If she's lying to you right now what are the chances she will stop lying to you? Just go on about your business and try not to even care about this as it will just hurt you more. Your hurt enough as is. Go on about life without this person.
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On April 18 2009 02:25 HamerD wrote: Can I just start by saying I really would appreciate if people don't take the piss here.
Some of you guys know I have an internet relationship with Mischy. Well I went over to the USA and I'm here now, and it was going fine until I discovered some stuff on her computer. Chat logs from msn where she had been having, it seems, pretty fucked up conversations (sexual etc) with at least two guys from my country.
I was completely horrified and in fact so is she. At first well I thought you've done what is basically cheating in an internet relationship, so I'm off home. However she is scarily convinced that she DIDN'T take part in those conversations. She is in tears the whole time and even her parents say she must be serious- she has never cried in front of them before.
What's worst is that one of the guys was my best friend.
Regardless, I'm not a vengeful or spiteful person. I just need to know should I get the hell out of this relationship or can she be telling the truth.
I've decided that probably one of three things is going on:
a) Michelle did have those conversations, and is lying
b) Michelle did have those conversations, but has repressed them and convinced herself that she is telling the truth
c) Michelle was targeted by a friend in a rather destructive act of ongoing maliciousness.
Now my parents are telling me that it's certain I should get out of this relationship. And I'm pretty certain I should too. The only thing keeping me here is how hysterical Michelle is about it. A friend of hers called up and confessed to having the conversations. However, I just didn't believe it. It sounded like she didn't really have an idea of what had happened, and that she had been somehow put up to it by Michelle or her friends.
So basically the first question I have to you guys is:
There were webcam convos my best friend admitted too (btw he is now completely out of my life forever).
Is there ANY technology out there which lets a person feed captured video of a webcam into MSN, to make it look like it's someone else...and is there any way to program reactions into that???
And the second question is:
What should I do? Lie detector tests? (Plz for god's sake don't say Maury lol) Trust her? GTFO?
Thanks in advance for not being a douchebag and taking a cheap shot. If she's that hysterical I would say forgive her. But if you go down that route make sure you actually _forgive_ her, otherwise it will just keep infecting your relationship until you have a painful breakup.
edit Wait, with online relationship you mean that you guys have in fact never met irl? I just assumed that you meant long distance... omg I think I am just going to lol at this one hahaha.
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HAHAHAHAHA
it took your online girlfriend cheating for your parents to tell you that you were in a bad online relationship?
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
The answer is pretty clear, she is a scoundrel. A dirty liar and she deserves the worst punishment possible via internet relationships.. we will get to that in a second. But first, lets wallow in your sadness so we can best understand it.
You lent her your trust. Probably gave her access to your private photobucket account so she could see those dirty pictures of your naked body. She witnessed your bare flesh and now you feel ravaged. Taken advantage of. How many people have access to your private photobucket account? Exactly. One (two if you include yourself).
You stayed up, despite the time difference to hold intimate MSN conversations. Full of such emoticons as "kissing faces" and "smiling faces with hearts raising up." These aren't just average run of the mill emoticons.. these are fucking intimate love emoticons. Reserved for internet girlfriends, mothers, little boys or anyone Testie is talking to.
You probably spilled your guts to her in a passive internet kinda way. Making long blog posts about your love for this wonderful internet person and then leading her to them in a indirect kind of way. You told her you cried (when you probably didn't) and she responded in kind (probably not).
What were all those "lol" ? Now you begin to question.. did she actually laugh? Was it even "outloud?" Was she ever "away from the keyboard" or was she actually MSN'ing that fag best friend of yours in another MSN window... oh she did didn't she? That bitch had the audacity to open both windows at the same fucking time. She didn't even have the compassion.. to do as little as wait until your window had been closed to open the other one with your best friend. That bitch.
Here is the punchline though: You took the internet relationship to the furthest reaches.. beyond cyber sex or amazon.com purchases delivered to her door.. you bought a ticket to go visit a person you know is real because the webcam told you so. You hip-thrusted at logic and said "damn it, I am a man, and this world is my playground." You got out of your parents basement and ventured across the pond to bring this relationship past type based sex and web cam kissy faces... you saw her.
And what does she do?
Her computer (after some extensive searching) reveals chat logs with 2 men. TWO men from your very country ONE of which is your "best friend." Wow. That bitch? After all those movies you guys watched together and commented on via skype. After all those fucking MSN conversations.. you even changed your wallpaper for her. She turns around and engages in internet adultery. She probably fucking sent him the same emoticons...
Heres what we do buddy.. does the technology exist to get a webcam to record information that had already been shown? No. Not yet.
Would a lie detector test be a bit much? Yes. But people probably said that about you flying to America to meet a girl you had never actually met in person... and that didn't stop you did it?
Tell her if she really loves you she will rig up a mobile webcam / wifi connection and march herself to the local lie detector test place and have on taken with 2 witnesses (internet or real) and have the results streamed live to your desktop. If she passes this crisis can be averted and in fact she has an evil friend who went through the necessary steps to hack mischy's desktop to fake conversations with 2 men to spite her..
We will decide what to do with her later! But first the test. Let us know how it goes.
May capricorn be with you.
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On April 18 2009 02:44 MTF wrote: GTFO.
You don't trust her in this and, honestly, it doesn't seem like you ever did if you "discovered" MSN logs on her computer. So, cut your losses and don't stay in a relationship where you start feeling paranoid every time you're away from her. It doesn't matter if she did or didn't do this. I think you have trust issues and, justified or not, they will tear this relationship apart now that you have something that you think she did always in the back of your mind.
+1
Plus. If she did cheat. What's stopping her from doing it again. Is it really worth it?
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I have a serious virtual girlfriend for 3 years and our relationship looked so flawless for me until yestarday when I went home I saw her making virtual blowjob to my friend(its ugly british breed),so I was what the fuck is this,what are you doing with my friend?She was very upset at the begging but then started to apologize and told me that she loves me so much,but she is some kind of nimphomaniac and she cant stand long time without virtual sex,it was so wonderful when we make virtual sex,but I alone cannot virtually satisfy her ,coz she needs full-time job virtual sexual care.Thats why she decided instead of virtually cheating me with other men,to make virtual sex with my friends,coz I am citating this:"he likes me very much and he is so nice and cute and I have my needs and I dont wanna cheat on you with others coz I love you more than anytning and anyone and so on..blah blah blah.Honestly guys I dont know what to think right now. We are making virtual sex without firewalls and I doubt that my friend is using firewalls either and this whole thing is disturbing me very much .I prefer I never caught her or even caught her with another man...really dunno. Oh and I almost forget ,she told me that she dont feel pleasure making virtual blowjobs to my friend ,she did it only to turn him on,like this matters something to me.
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So your friend is "out of your life forever" because of this, but you are considering forgiving the person you're supposed to have a far more intimate bond with. Buy a plane ticket back home and go laugh about the webcam jerkfests you and your buddies had with the same lonely internet girl.
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