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You're getting tooled bro. Girl clearly just wants a plan B ready and waiting for her if shit turns really sour with her boyfriend, but even despite the apparent shittiness of their relationship she doesn't want to be the one to pull the trigger. That is because she is apparently afraid of being alone/dealing with the multiple suitors coming for her, and probably also because she must still like him more than you. In short, you're playing second fiddle to this dude, and she wants second best when shit goes wrong with the first. I'd take this as an insult, play along, wait until the time is right (when her other relationship fails), bang her a few times, play boyfriend/girlfriend but then tool her just like she tooled you - lie to her, deceive her, use her to satisfy my own desires/fears. Eventually when I find a girl I can truly connect with without a web of deception, I would continue to use her until that new girl is a done deal and we start going out.
Yea it's cruel, but what she is doing to you is not much different. I consider this karma, and I am the delivery man. If a person has no qualms about using me, I have no qualms about using them.
To be fair, this might be because I am not in the situation and don't know her personally, maybe she has a lot of problems or something and she can't really help it. But being complacent and letting her get away with such behavior isn't helping things either. Maybe I actually wouldn't be this vengeful, and just would cut shit off with her. That's what you should do unless you subscribe to my Babylonian approach.
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On March 23 2012 05:17 Chill wrote:
I'm always hesitant to get involved with a girl that is willing to cheat. "Cheaters always cheat" is one of those dummy sayings but tends to be true. If you make a move and she's willing to go all the way, that's great but I wouldn't get too serious with this girl. If she addresses the fact that she has a boyfriend wants to make it right (1 in a million shot) then she's a ____ girl. I'm struggling with an adjective for _____. Good girl? Proper girl? "Right" girl. FML. I no English.
That rule has been proven true by pretty much every single cheater I have encountered
I dunno, the core of any relationship is trust and if you know someone is willing to do something behind the back of someone they're currently seeing, it says a lot
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On March 27 2012 23:01 haduken wrote:
So what happened? Did you tell her?
Give us an update OP.
Lol I did update. It's a few posts up. She flaked out on the date -_-. And she JUST texted me 5 min ago asking to hang out this week.
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On March 28 2012 07:59 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 23:01 haduken wrote:
So what happened? Did you tell her?
Give us an update OP. Lol I did update. It's a few posts up. She flaked out on the date -_-. And she JUST texted me 5 min ago asking to hang out this week.
Go with my plan. DO EET.
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Don't just ignore her and lead her on. Straight up tell her that you're sick of the situation, whether you're going to stick around or not, sometimes people don't understand what they're doing until you slap them in the face with it.
No more pussyfooting around it, just up and confront her with it.
EDIT: by confront I don't mean be angry/mad/rude, just be clear, concise, and DIRECT.
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Do you like her as a friend or do you want to just get some?
Imagine that you already had a gf, would you still try to get in touch with her?
If not then plan to get out of that relationship.
One effective way to go on in either case is to go out with her to a club and use her to get another girl.
Tell her that you like a particuliar girl there and that she as a friend should help her get her(for example introduce you to her/make good comments about you).
Or tell her that since she knows you quite well, she should help you get in relationship with one of her friends...
If she refuses to do it or doesn't perform well, she is using you - tell her that if she just wants you for herself she'll have to do better(in your relationship) and dump her if she tries to avoid.
She either comes back crawling or you go your separate ways.
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On March 28 2012 08:52 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 07:59 StorkHwaiting wrote:On March 27 2012 23:01 haduken wrote:
So what happened? Did you tell her?
Give us an update OP. Lol I did update. It's a few posts up. She flaked out on the date -_-. And she JUST texted me 5 min ago asking to hang out this week. Go with my plan. DO EET.
Lol I had thought of doing something similar when I first found out she had a bf and got kind of pissed about her lying, but I only had a # of random dates with her over a period of months while seeing other girls as well so I'm not that hung up on it. And I don't pay for dates, so if they don't go well then I see it more as just having fun with a friend. She seems to want to hang out this week so I'll probably use this last meet to just clarify what was going on and friend-zone her. If she doesn't want to be friends then I'll just say peace.
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On March 29 2012 02:35 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 08:52 Jealous wrote:On March 28 2012 07:59 StorkHwaiting wrote:On March 27 2012 23:01 haduken wrote:
So what happened? Did you tell her?
Give us an update OP. Lol I did update. It's a few posts up. She flaked out on the date -_-. And she JUST texted me 5 min ago asking to hang out this week. Go with my plan. DO EET. Lol I had thought of doing something similar when I first found out she had a bf and got kind of pissed about her lying, but I only had a # of random dates with her over a period of months while seeing other girls as well so I'm not that hung up on it. And I don't pay for dates, so if they don't go well then I see it more as just having fun with a friend. She seems to want to hang out this week so I'll probably use this last meet to just clarify what was going on and friend-zone her. If she doesn't want to be friends then I'll just say peace.
Alright yo best of luck, report back! I know you well enough to know you won't come in there looking like >:| "YOU BEEN PLAYIN ME HO?" xD
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How old is the girl? That could be the problem.
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On March 29 2012 05:14 husniack wrote:
How old is the girl? That could be the problem.
She is 24, he is 27.
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Planning to write some long stuff, got to rekrul's post ... W/e he said
Make a move or go away, she's prolly just not sure about the BF. Most likely they're been together a while or something and as long as you're around she'll just keep trying to keep you around, just maybe. And she won't drop her bf for "maybe this guy wants to go out with me/likes me/will be my bf", not gonna happen until you show her your intentions, and even then ...
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On March 27 2012 23:52 Jealous wrote:
You're getting tooled bro. Girl clearly just wants a plan B ready and waiting for her if shit turns really sour with her boyfriend, but even despite the apparent shittiness of their relationship she doesn't want to be the one to pull the trigger. That is because she is apparently afraid of being alone/dealing with the multiple suitors coming for her, and probably also because she must still like him more than you. In short, you're playing second fiddle to this dude, and she wants second best when shit goes wrong with the first. I'd take this as an insult, play along, wait until the time is right (when her other relationship fails), bang her a few times, play boyfriend/girlfriend but then tool her just like she tooled you - lie to her, deceive her, use her to satisfy my own desires/fears. Eventually when I find a girl I can truly connect with without a web of deception, I would continue to use her until that new girl is a done deal and we start going out.
Yea it's cruel, but what she is doing to you is not much different. I consider this karma, and I am the delivery man. If a person has no qualms about using me, I have no qualms about using them.
To be fair, this might be because I am not in the situation and don't know her personally, maybe she has a lot of problems or something and she can't really help it. But being complacent and letting her get away with such behavior isn't helping things either. Maybe I actually wouldn't be this vengeful, and just would cut shit off with her. That's what you should do unless you subscribe to my Babylonian approach.
This is evil, I'm gonna totally do this if I ever come across a similar situation as OP did. Thanks for the advice =P
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On March 29 2012 05:52 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 23:52 Jealous wrote:
You're getting tooled bro. Girl clearly just wants a plan B ready and waiting for her if shit turns really sour with her boyfriend, but even despite the apparent shittiness of their relationship she doesn't want to be the one to pull the trigger. That is because she is apparently afraid of being alone/dealing with the multiple suitors coming for her, and probably also because she must still like him more than you. In short, you're playing second fiddle to this dude, and she wants second best when shit goes wrong with the first. I'd take this as an insult, play along, wait until the time is right (when her other relationship fails), bang her a few times, play boyfriend/girlfriend but then tool her just like she tooled you - lie to her, deceive her, use her to satisfy my own desires/fears. Eventually when I find a girl I can truly connect with without a web of deception, I would continue to use her until that new girl is a done deal and we start going out.
Yea it's cruel, but what she is doing to you is not much different. I consider this karma, and I am the delivery man. If a person has no qualms about using me, I have no qualms about using them.
To be fair, this might be because I am not in the situation and don't know her personally, maybe she has a lot of problems or something and she can't really help it. But being complacent and letting her get away with such behavior isn't helping things either. Maybe I actually wouldn't be this vengeful, and just would cut shit off with her. That's what you should do unless you subscribe to my Babylonian approach. This is evil, I'm gonna totally do this if I ever come across a similar situation as OP did. Thanks for the advice =P
No problem bro. Evil is so much more tangibly rewarding than good.
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On March 29 2012 06:51 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 05:52 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:On March 27 2012 23:52 Jealous wrote:
You're getting tooled bro. Girl clearly just wants a plan B ready and waiting for her if shit turns really sour with her boyfriend, but even despite the apparent shittiness of their relationship she doesn't want to be the one to pull the trigger. That is because she is apparently afraid of being alone/dealing with the multiple suitors coming for her, and probably also because she must still like him more than you. In short, you're playing second fiddle to this dude, and she wants second best when shit goes wrong with the first. I'd take this as an insult, play along, wait until the time is right (when her other relationship fails), bang her a few times, play boyfriend/girlfriend but then tool her just like she tooled you - lie to her, deceive her, use her to satisfy my own desires/fears. Eventually when I find a girl I can truly connect with without a web of deception, I would continue to use her until that new girl is a done deal and we start going out.
Yea it's cruel, but what she is doing to you is not much different. I consider this karma, and I am the delivery man. If a person has no qualms about using me, I have no qualms about using them.
To be fair, this might be because I am not in the situation and don't know her personally, maybe she has a lot of problems or something and she can't really help it. But being complacent and letting her get away with such behavior isn't helping things either. Maybe I actually wouldn't be this vengeful, and just would cut shit off with her. That's what you should do unless you subscribe to my Babylonian approach. This is evil, I'm gonna totally do this if I ever come across a similar situation as OP did. Thanks for the advice =P No problem bro. Evil is so much more tangibly rewarding than good.
It's true. My only problem with the plan is that I've done something similar to it in my past and there were two major downsides.
A) After the girl realized what I'd done, she got revenge. And she was very thorough and very patient about it :-S
B) Having sex with a girl I didn't much care about and didn't particularly like wasn't enjoyable. In fact, I felt kind of disgusting and empty afterwards. Maybe I'm gay. I dno. Hate sex is pretty awesome because the emotions are intense. But indifferent, apathetic, mildly amused yet put off at the same time sex is just scarring for me.
As to being angry about playing second fiddle, I don't really feel insulted. Her bf got there first, established a rapport with her that's lasted over a year now, and I never thought me and her were very compatible to begin with. Whereas, in terms of life philosophy, background, and general personality, I think her bf's quite a decent guy. Also, he has the same last name as me, which I find quite funny and makes me feel a sense of kinship to him. If I was her, I'd probably pick him too. Especially since I don't go to any particular effort to woo her. I sort of just show up when she wants a date and go with the flow while trying to have a good time.
In terms of what I'm looking for, I came out of a loooong relationship a year ago and since then I guess I've sort of been fiddling around with random girls trying to see how I feel about things. A lot of exploration and figuring out what I want out of relationships etc. Whether I'm okay with casuals or open relationships, whether I like materialistic girls or artistic types or professional types or motherly types or stripper girls with necklace tattoos etc. There really is a huge assortment of diff types of girls and I'm starting to dial in on my "type," but I think I still have a long way to go. So I guess in general what I'm looking to do with this girl is refine my game, learn more about women in general, and the dynamics of relationships. The sex/relationship aspect is more a byproduct rather than the focus of my efforts if that makes any sense.
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On March 29 2012 05:08 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 02:35 StorkHwaiting wrote:On March 28 2012 08:52 Jealous wrote:On March 28 2012 07:59 StorkHwaiting wrote:On March 27 2012 23:01 haduken wrote:
So what happened? Did you tell her?
Give us an update OP. Lol I did update. It's a few posts up. She flaked out on the date -_-. And she JUST texted me 5 min ago asking to hang out this week. Go with my plan. DO EET. Lol I had thought of doing something similar when I first found out she had a bf and got kind of pissed about her lying, but I only had a # of random dates with her over a period of months while seeing other girls as well so I'm not that hung up on it. And I don't pay for dates, so if they don't go well then I see it more as just having fun with a friend. She seems to want to hang out this week so I'll probably use this last meet to just clarify what was going on and friend-zone her. If she doesn't want to be friends then I'll just say peace. Alright yo best of luck, report back! I know you well enough to know you won't come in there looking like >:| "YOU BEEN PLAYIN ME HO?" xD
Haha, I will be a paragon of eloquence when broaching the subject. And then I will report back here :D
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This is probably the most interesting girlblog and followup i've ever read
5/5 would read again
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On March 29 2012 06:51 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 05:52 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:On March 27 2012 23:52 Jealous wrote:
You're getting tooled bro. Girl clearly just wants a plan B ready and waiting for her if shit turns really sour with her boyfriend, but even despite the apparent shittiness of their relationship she doesn't want to be the one to pull the trigger. That is because she is apparently afraid of being alone/dealing with the multiple suitors coming for her, and probably also because she must still like him more than you. In short, you're playing second fiddle to this dude, and she wants second best when shit goes wrong with the first. I'd take this as an insult, play along, wait until the time is right (when her other relationship fails), bang her a few times, play boyfriend/girlfriend but then tool her just like she tooled you - lie to her, deceive her, use her to satisfy my own desires/fears. Eventually when I find a girl I can truly connect with without a web of deception, I would continue to use her until that new girl is a done deal and we start going out.
Yea it's cruel, but what she is doing to you is not much different. I consider this karma, and I am the delivery man. If a person has no qualms about using me, I have no qualms about using them.
To be fair, this might be because I am not in the situation and don't know her personally, maybe she has a lot of problems or something and she can't really help it. But being complacent and letting her get away with such behavior isn't helping things either. Maybe I actually wouldn't be this vengeful, and just would cut shit off with her. That's what you should do unless you subscribe to my Babylonian approach. This is evil, I'm gonna totally do this if I ever come across a similar situation as OP did. Thanks for the advice =P No problem bro. Evil is so much more tangibly rewarding than good.
wow that's amazing I have to keep that one in mind.
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On March 29 2012 06:51 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 05:52 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:On March 27 2012 23:52 Jealous wrote:
You're getting tooled bro. Girl clearly just wants a plan B ready and waiting for her if shit turns really sour with her boyfriend, but even despite the apparent shittiness of their relationship she doesn't want to be the one to pull the trigger. That is because she is apparently afraid of being alone/dealing with the multiple suitors coming for her, and probably also because she must still like him more than you. In short, you're playing second fiddle to this dude, and she wants second best when shit goes wrong with the first. I'd take this as an insult, play along, wait until the time is right (when her other relationship fails), bang her a few times, play boyfriend/girlfriend but then tool her just like she tooled you - lie to her, deceive her, use her to satisfy my own desires/fears. Eventually when I find a girl I can truly connect with without a web of deception, I would continue to use her until that new girl is a done deal and we start going out.
Yea it's cruel, but what she is doing to you is not much different. I consider this karma, and I am the delivery man. If a person has no qualms about using me, I have no qualms about using them.
To be fair, this might be because I am not in the situation and don't know her personally, maybe she has a lot of problems or something and she can't really help it. But being complacent and letting her get away with such behavior isn't helping things either. Maybe I actually wouldn't be this vengeful, and just would cut shit off with her. That's what you should do unless you subscribe to my Babylonian approach. This is evil, I'm gonna totally do this if I ever come across a similar situation as OP did. Thanks for the advice =P No problem bro. Evil is so much more tangibly rewarding than good.
It's not evil, it's just.
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On March 30 2012 03:57 Stratos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 06:51 Jealous wrote:On March 29 2012 05:52 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:On March 27 2012 23:52 Jealous wrote:
You're getting tooled bro. Girl clearly just wants a plan B ready and waiting for her if shit turns really sour with her boyfriend, but even despite the apparent shittiness of their relationship she doesn't want to be the one to pull the trigger. That is because she is apparently afraid of being alone/dealing with the multiple suitors coming for her, and probably also because she must still like him more than you. In short, you're playing second fiddle to this dude, and she wants second best when shit goes wrong with the first. I'd take this as an insult, play along, wait until the time is right (when her other relationship fails), bang her a few times, play boyfriend/girlfriend but then tool her just like she tooled you - lie to her, deceive her, use her to satisfy my own desires/fears. Eventually when I find a girl I can truly connect with without a web of deception, I would continue to use her until that new girl is a done deal and we start going out.
Yea it's cruel, but what she is doing to you is not much different. I consider this karma, and I am the delivery man. If a person has no qualms about using me, I have no qualms about using them.
To be fair, this might be because I am not in the situation and don't know her personally, maybe she has a lot of problems or something and she can't really help it. But being complacent and letting her get away with such behavior isn't helping things either. Maybe I actually wouldn't be this vengeful, and just would cut shit off with her. That's what you should do unless you subscribe to my Babylonian approach. This is evil, I'm gonna totally do this if I ever come across a similar situation as OP did. Thanks for the advice =P No problem bro. Evil is so much more tangibly rewarding than good. It's not evil, it's just.
If what she did is (let's be broad here) an evil act, and justice is served by reproducing that evil act, then can we not classify it as being just and evil?
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On March 30 2012 04:28 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 03:57 Stratos wrote:On March 29 2012 06:51 Jealous wrote:On March 29 2012 05:52 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:On March 27 2012 23:52 Jealous wrote:
You're getting tooled bro. Girl clearly just wants a plan B ready and waiting for her if shit turns really sour with her boyfriend, but even despite the apparent shittiness of their relationship she doesn't want to be the one to pull the trigger. That is because she is apparently afraid of being alone/dealing with the multiple suitors coming for her, and probably also because she must still like him more than you. In short, you're playing second fiddle to this dude, and she wants second best when shit goes wrong with the first. I'd take this as an insult, play along, wait until the time is right (when her other relationship fails), bang her a few times, play boyfriend/girlfriend but then tool her just like she tooled you - lie to her, deceive her, use her to satisfy my own desires/fears. Eventually when I find a girl I can truly connect with without a web of deception, I would continue to use her until that new girl is a done deal and we start going out.
Yea it's cruel, but what she is doing to you is not much different. I consider this karma, and I am the delivery man. If a person has no qualms about using me, I have no qualms about using them.
To be fair, this might be because I am not in the situation and don't know her personally, maybe she has a lot of problems or something and she can't really help it. But being complacent and letting her get away with such behavior isn't helping things either. Maybe I actually wouldn't be this vengeful, and just would cut shit off with her. That's what you should do unless you subscribe to my Babylonian approach. This is evil, I'm gonna totally do this if I ever come across a similar situation as OP did. Thanks for the advice =P No problem bro. Evil is so much more tangibly rewarding than good. It's not evil, it's just. If what she did is (let's be broad here) an evil act, and justice is served by reproducing that evil act, then can we not classify it as being just and evil?
Sure we can do that. I'm sorry I shouldn't have started a discussion about what's evil, good, beautiful and just. I'm not particularly fond of these terms anyway. My point was that I like it and personally I feel a sense of relief or balance when I treat others the way they treat me. I don't like the whole Jesus approach that much because it never really worked for me.
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