On June 06 2011 01:37 Empyrean wrote: America pretty much satisfies all of the above criteria :/
EDIT: Except eight. It does a good job at avoiding that.
But then again
EDIT: Yeah i know i shouldnt make a post where most of it is a picture, but it just happens that sometime a picture says more than words. Sorry if i hurt someones feelings.
1 powerful and continuing nationalism Nope 2 disdain for human rights Nope 3 idintification of enemies as a unifying cause Nope 4 Supremacy of the militant Nope 5 rampant sexism Nope 6 controlled mass media Not really 7 Obsession with national security Nope 8 Government and religion intertwined Nope 9 Coporate power protected Kinda 10 Labour power supressed Not really 11 Disdain for intellectuals and arts Nope 12 Obsession with crime and punishment Nope 13 Rampant cronyism and corruption A bit, but mostly municipal 14 fraudulent elections Nope
For 2, witness Guantanamo Bay and America's historic trend of overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries (Iran, Panama, Nicaragua, etc.). For 14, while on a national level I doubt there's any problem, the fact that we use these terrible comptuer-based optical scanner machines that don't have open source code in some locations allows for easy vote-rigging, as has been the cases in a few isolated incidents. Granted, it's not as a bad as, say, Iran, but it still isn't as good as it could be.
As for the controlled mass media, we rarely hear anything relevant on the most common forms of cable television news. How often have you turned into CNN, only to find useless reports of twitter feeds and celebrity gossip? That shit isn't news. NPR's pretty good, though. I like Morning Edition.
EDIT: With regard to "In God we trust," I believe it was put on the money sometime in the fifties as an affront to the "godless communists" of the USSR. It's a minor annoyance for me.
On June 06 2011 01:47 Empyrean wrote: For 2, witness Guantanamo Bay and America's historic trend of overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries (Iran, Panama, Nicaragua, etc.). For 14, while on a national level I doubt there's any problem, the fact that we use these terrible comptuer-based optical scanner machines that don't have open source code in some locations allows for easy vote-rigging, as has been the cases in a few isolated incidents. Granted, it's not as a bad as, say, Iran, but it still isn't as good as it could be.
As for the controlled mass media, we rarely hear anything relevant on the most common forms of cable television news. How often have you turned into CNN, only to find useless reports of twitter feeds and celebrity gossip? That shit isn't news. NPR's pretty good, though. I like Morning Edition.
EDIT: With regard to "In God we trust," I believe it was put on the money sometime in the fifties as an affront to the "godless communists" of the USSR. It's a minor annoyance for me.
Well religion is still pretty present in the government. There's still signs of it all over government buildings and whatnot. "Separation of church and state" isn't particularly respected. Pledge of allegiance and whatnot.
You mention the media and how it feeds irrelevant stuff to the population which doesn't mean it's controlled... It might be to a certain extent but it's not full blown corrupted info - not at all. If anything, it's somewhat controlled by corporations, not so much by the government.
IMO, those numbers are definitely not problematic - doesn't look anything like fascism in the US. 2,5,6,10,11 (well maybe a little in the south lawls),13,14
On June 06 2011 01:47 Empyrean wrote: For 2, witness Guantanamo Bay and America's historic trend of overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries (Iran, Panama, Nicaragua, etc.). For 14, while on a national level I doubt there's any problem, the fact that we use these terrible comptuer-based optical scanner machines that don't have open source code in some locations allows for easy vote-rigging, as has been the cases in a few isolated incidents. Granted, it's not as a bad as, say, Iran, but it still isn't as good as it could be.
As for the controlled mass media, we rarely hear anything relevant on the most common forms of cable television news. How often have you turned into CNN, only to find useless reports of twitter feeds and celebrity gossip? That shit isn't news. NPR's pretty good, though. I like Morning Edition.
EDIT: With regard to "In God we trust," I believe it was put on the money sometime in the fifties as an affront to the "godless communists" of the USSR. It's a minor annoyance for me.
Well religion is still pretty present in the government. There's still signs of it all over government buildings and whatnot. "Separation of church and state" isn't particularly respected. Pledge of allegiance and whatnot.
You mention the media and how it feeds irrelevant stuff to the population which doesn't mean it's controlled... It might be to a certain extent but it's not full blown corrupted info - not at all. If anything, it's somewhat controlled by corporations, not so much by the government.
IMO, those numbers are definitely not problematic - doesn't look anything like fascism in the US. 2,5,6,10,11 (well maybe a little in the south lawls),13,14
You really don't think many politicians of the United States are corrupt?
On June 06 2011 01:47 Empyrean wrote: For 2, witness Guantanamo Bay and America's historic trend of overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries (Iran, Panama, Nicaragua, etc.). For 14, while on a national level I doubt there's any problem, the fact that we use these terrible comptuer-based optical scanner machines that don't have open source code in some locations allows for easy vote-rigging, as has been the cases in a few isolated incidents. Granted, it's not as a bad as, say, Iran, but it still isn't as good as it could be.
As for the controlled mass media, we rarely hear anything relevant on the most common forms of cable television news. How often have you turned into CNN, only to find useless reports of twitter feeds and celebrity gossip? That shit isn't news. NPR's pretty good, though. I like Morning Edition.
EDIT: With regard to "In God we trust," I believe it was put on the money sometime in the fifties as an affront to the "godless communists" of the USSR. It's a minor annoyance for me.
Well religion is still pretty present in the government. There's still signs of it all over government buildings and whatnot. "Separation of church and state" isn't particularly respected. Pledge of allegiance and whatnot.
You mention the media and how it feeds irrelevant stuff to the population which doesn't mean it's controlled... It might be to a certain extent but it's not full blown corrupted info - not at all. If anything, it's somewhat controlled by corporations, not so much by the government.
IMO, those numbers are definitely not problematic - doesn't look anything like fascism in the US. 2,5,6,10,11 (well maybe a little in the south lawls),13,14
Being controlled by corporations is probably worse. The Government is pretty much controlled by them anyway, seeing as how members of both major parties pander to corporate interests at the cost of society as a whole.
I'd have to disagree with your point about separation of church and state. I think the U.S. actually does a pretty good job at it. Concerns are few and far between and are generally addressed satisfactorily (think Alabama state courthouse). The whole pledge of allegiance issue is annoying, but it's probably not going to be fixed in our lifetimes (even though the phrase "under God" was also added in the fifties. For the same reason), but I don't see it as an egregious violation of church and state because the pledge of allegiance isn't mandatory (it's actually pretty stupid).
On June 06 2011 01:47 Empyrean wrote: For 2, witness Guantanamo Bay and America's historic trend of overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries (Iran, Panama, Nicaragua, etc.). For 14, while on a national level I doubt there's any problem, the fact that we use these terrible comptuer-based optical scanner machines that don't have open source code in some locations allows for easy vote-rigging, as has been the cases in a few isolated incidents. Granted, it's not as a bad as, say, Iran, but it still isn't as good as it could be.
As for the controlled mass media, we rarely hear anything relevant on the most common forms of cable television news. How often have you turned into CNN, only to find useless reports of twitter feeds and celebrity gossip? That shit isn't news. NPR's pretty good, though. I like Morning Edition.
EDIT: With regard to "In God we trust," I believe it was put on the money sometime in the fifties as an affront to the "godless communists" of the USSR. It's a minor annoyance for me.
Well religion is still pretty present in the government. There's still signs of it all over government buildings and whatnot. "Separation of church and state" isn't particularly respected. Pledge of allegiance and whatnot.
You mention the media and how it feeds irrelevant stuff to the population which doesn't mean it's controlled... It might be to a certain extent but it's not full blown corrupted info - not at all. If anything, it's somewhat controlled by corporations, not so much by the government.
IMO, those numbers are definitely not problematic - doesn't look anything like fascism in the US. 2,5,6,10,11 (well maybe a little in the south lawls),13,14
You really don't think many politicians of the United States are corrupt?
Sure, but not particularly more so than politicians in other democracies... There isn't as much corruption as we would see in fascist regimes, obviously.
On June 06 2011 01:47 Empyrean wrote: For 2, witness Guantanamo Bay and America's historic trend of overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries (Iran, Panama, Nicaragua, etc.). For 14, while on a national level I doubt there's any problem, the fact that we use these terrible comptuer-based optical scanner machines that don't have open source code in some locations allows for easy vote-rigging, as has been the cases in a few isolated incidents. Granted, it's not as a bad as, say, Iran, but it still isn't as good as it could be.
As for the controlled mass media, we rarely hear anything relevant on the most common forms of cable television news. How often have you turned into CNN, only to find useless reports of twitter feeds and celebrity gossip? That shit isn't news. NPR's pretty good, though. I like Morning Edition.
EDIT: With regard to "In God we trust," I believe it was put on the money sometime in the fifties as an affront to the "godless communists" of the USSR. It's a minor annoyance for me.
Well religion is still pretty present in the government. There's still signs of it all over government buildings and whatnot. "Separation of church and state" isn't particularly respected. Pledge of allegiance and whatnot.
You mention the media and how it feeds irrelevant stuff to the population which doesn't mean it's controlled... It might be to a certain extent but it's not full blown corrupted info - not at all. If anything, it's somewhat controlled by corporations, not so much by the government.
IMO, those numbers are definitely not problematic - doesn't look anything like fascism in the US. 2,5,6,10,11 (well maybe a little in the south lawls),13,14
Being controlled by corporations is probably worse. The Government is pretty much controlled by them anyway, seeing as how members of both major parties pander to corporate interests at the cost of society as a whole.
Well when people say the government is controlled by corporations it's actually much less direct than some folks would like you to think. As for the other part of your post, well we have to agree to disagree.
On June 06 2011 03:14 N3rV[Green] wrote: Bush got most if not all of his ideas from Jesus, at least that's how he made it seem.
Religion and American politics are so intertwined it honestly just makes me sad.
But ya, that picture is actually fucking scary....every single item on the list the good ole USA is pretty much proud of.
Secularism is the stupidest (although the entire list is pretty bad) item on that list anyways. Religion can just be one way of legitimizing a regime, it has no actual bearing on Fascism (neither do many of the other point, but whatever...). It seems routine to point out that the Nazi regime was very anti-religious, and yet was still Fascist.
Anyways, the whole "separation of church and state" (secularism) was an idea taken up more towards the 1600-1700s when the Vatican was deeply entrenched in politics. The Peace of Westphalia and the French Revolution pretty much lead to the separation of church and state in every state. When one politician says "I don't agree with abortion because I am Chrisitian!!" this is not the same thing, it is just an opinion.
On June 06 2011 03:31 emperorchampion wrote: When one politician says "I don't agree with abortion because I am Chrisitian!!" this is not the same thing, it is just an opinion.
It is also the act of beleiving in something which has never been prooved, and this from a guy who is running the state. The next thing we see is we need to believe that the Norwegian prime minister rapes women. Proofs? We dont need them because when people from the high grounds tells us it, then it must be true, otherwise they wouldnt say it.
So Norway has oil, and the prime minister treats the woman bad, it can only be one response, a response of war.
The act of telling lies, the act of warmongering is very facist.
edit: LOL why did i response like that? That is just a minor thing, a much more important issue when it comes to religion is that people forgets who they are. They think God and the state is the same. If the state gets attacked its also an attack on their God. LOL its so crazy that it took me a lot of time to think it through myself, but it takes effort to be able to look into other people way of thinking when they are loonatics / religoius loonatics.
So the people forget the fight for their rights and instead give all their rights away and then the state and the corporation can treat the people in the most convinient way, the way of exploitaition and divide the people. Its sounds stupid thats its hard to beleive in but thats whats going on.
The poeple need to realise the state is the enemy and the corporations are the enemy, because those entities are the ones who are trashing the people if the people sets them loose. Right now corporations are a wild animal, trapped, but if it breaks free from its cavity then pity the people.
On June 06 2011 03:31 emperorchampion wrote: When one politician says "I don't agree with abortion because I am Chrisitian!!" this is not the same thing, it is just an opinion.
It is also the act of beleiving in something which has never been prooved, and this from a guy who is running the state. The next thing we see is we need to believe that the Norwegian prime minister rapes women. Proofs? We dont need them because when people from the high grounds tells us it, then it must be true, otherwise they wouldnt say it.
So Norway has oil, and the prime minister treats the woman bad, it can only be one response, a response of war.
The act of telling lies, the act of warmongering is very facist.
God, I can never tell if you are trolling or not.
How are the treatment of women and oil related, and then how is war the only response... Moreover, how the hell is that related to secularism?? Unless this is some 9th level example of believing something that has never been prooved, I see no point to your post.
The most important aspect of facism (just like communism) is that there is no private property. The difference is that in facism this is explicit: the "state" owns everything. In communism it is implicit: the "state" owns everything because the "people" own everything and of course the state controls the people.
On June 06 2011 03:31 emperorchampion wrote: When one politician says "I don't agree with abortion because I am Chrisitian!!" this is not the same thing, it is just an opinion.
It is also the act of beleiving in something which has never been prooved, and this from a guy who is running the state. The next thing we see is we need to believe that the Norwegian prime minister rapes women. Proofs? We dont need them because when people from the high grounds tells us it, then it must be true, otherwise they wouldnt say it.
So Norway has oil, and the prime minister treats the woman bad, it can only be one response, a response of war.
The act of telling lies, the act of warmongering is very facist.
God, I can never tell if you are trolling or not.
How are the treatment of women and oil related, and then how is war the only response... Moreover, how the hell is that related to secularism?? Unless this is some 9th level example of believing something that has never been prooved, I see no point to your post.
Its facism, yeah its pretty much unlogic, thats what i am trying to say. Facism is unlogical, and u need to bring in a great sum of effort if you want to follow its way of thinking. But since thats whats going on you can not deny it and say its impossible.
edit: also i edited my post, only adding more sentences.
On June 06 2011 03:31 emperorchampion wrote: When one politician says "I don't agree with abortion because I am Chrisitian!!" this is not the same thing, it is just an opinion.
It is also the act of beleiving in something which has never been prooved, and this from a guy who is running the state. The next thing we see is we need to believe that the Norwegian prime minister rapes women. Proofs? We dont need them because when people from the high grounds tells us it, then it must be true, otherwise they wouldnt say it.
So Norway has oil, and the prime minister treats the woman bad, it can only be one response, a response of war.
The act of telling lies, the act of warmongering is very facist.
God, I can never tell if you are trolling or not.
How are the treatment of women and oil related, and then how is war the only response... Moreover, how the hell is that related to secularism?? Unless this is some 9th level example of believing something that has never been prooved, I see no point to your post.
It's very simple. The purpose of this and every other post by Mr.exeexe is to remind us of the sublime truths which may be uncovered by a sanguine effort in metaphysical speculation. There is something very mysteriously Chinese with his enumerations. I am sure that in time, the fourteen traits of fascism will join the ranks of the three ways, the eighty-one ordeals, the four noble truths, the forty-nine days of meditation, the eight paths and all such classical enumerations which have fed and sustained the oriental mind for many millennia.
On June 06 2011 03:31 emperorchampion wrote: When one politician says "I don't agree with abortion because I am Chrisitian!!" this is not the same thing, it is just an opinion.
It is also the act of beleiving in something which has never been prooved, and this from a guy who is running the state. The next thing we see is we need to believe that the Norwegian prime minister rapes women. Proofs? We dont need them because when people from the high grounds tells us it, then it must be true, otherwise they wouldnt say it.
So Norway has oil, and the prime minister treats the woman bad, it can only be one response, a response of war.
The act of telling lies, the act of warmongering is very facist.
God, I can never tell if you are trolling or not.
How are the treatment of women and oil related, and then how is war the only response... Moreover, how the hell is that related to secularism?? Unless this is some 9th level example of believing something that has never been prooved, I see no point to your post.
It's very simple. The purpose of this and every other post by Mr.exeexe is to remind us of the sublime truths which may be uncovered by a sanguine effort in metaphysical speculation. There is something very mysteriously Chinese with his enumerations. I am sure that in time, the fourteen traits of fascism will join the ranks of the three ways, the eighty-one ordeals, the four noble truths, the forty-nine days of meditation, the eight paths and all such classical enumerations which have fed and sustained the oriental mind for many millennia.
Thank God for you Moltke. I had begun to feel as if I were alone in this world.
On June 06 2011 03:31 emperorchampion wrote: When one politician says "I don't agree with abortion because I am Chrisitian!!" this is not the same thing, it is just an opinion.
It is also the act of beleiving in something which has never been prooved, and this from a guy who is running the state. The next thing we see is we need to believe that the Norwegian prime minister rapes women. Proofs? We dont need them because when people from the high grounds tells us it, then it must be true, otherwise they wouldnt say it.
So Norway has oil, and the prime minister treats the woman bad, it can only be one response, a response of war.
The act of telling lies, the act of warmongering is very facist.
God, I can never tell if you are trolling or not.
How are the treatment of women and oil related, and then how is war the only response... Moreover, how the hell is that related to secularism?? Unless this is some 9th level example of believing something that has never been prooved, I see no point to your post.
It's very simple. The purpose of this and every other post by Mr.exeexe is to remind us of the sublime truths which may be uncovered by a sanguine effort in metaphysical speculation. There is something very mysteriously Chinese with his enumerations. I am sure that in time, the fourteen traits of fascism will join the ranks of the three ways, the eighty-one ordeals, the four noble truths, the forty-nine days of meditation, the eight paths and all such classical enumerations which have fed and sustained the oriental mind for many millennia.
Wow you have played the protoss campaign too much :D.
Comedy aside, yeah i may well have skipped the full explaination. But keep in mind that the 14 signs from OP is not facism, it is the sign of the beginning of facism. Then i played with a thought and tried to give an example on how a simple innocent lie could turn into a war based on a mass media-one-sided-view and how a small lie and lead up into a bigger lie.
On June 06 2011 03:31 emperorchampion wrote: When one politician says "I don't agree with abortion because I am Chrisitian!!" this is not the same thing, it is just an opinion.
It is also the act of beleiving in something which has never been prooved, and this from a guy who is running the state. The next thing we see is we need to believe that the Norwegian prime minister rapes women. Proofs? We dont need them because when people from the high grounds tells us it, then it must be true, otherwise they wouldnt say it.
So Norway has oil, and the prime minister treats the woman bad, it can only be one response, a response of war.
The act of telling lies, the act of warmongering is very facist.
God, I can never tell if you are trolling or not.
How are the treatment of women and oil related, and then how is war the only response... Moreover, how the hell is that related to secularism?? Unless this is some 9th level example of believing something that has never been prooved, I see no point to your post.
It's very simple. The purpose of this and every other post by Mr.exeexe is to remind us of the sublime truths which may be uncovered by a sanguine effort in metaphysical speculation. There is something very mysteriously Chinese with his enumerations. I am sure that in time, the fourteen traits of fascism will join the ranks of the three ways, the eighty-one ordeals, the four noble truths, the forty-nine days of meditation, the eight paths and all such classical enumerations which have fed and sustained the oriental mind for many millennia.
Thank God for you Moltke. I had begun to feel as if I were alone in this world.
Yeah Canada is big and not many lives there to fill out the gaps. Can make you feel alone in this world i guess. So you canadians must stick together whenever a situation gives the opportunity.
South Korea pretty much fulfills all of this extremely well save for 4 and 8, but it isn't a "fascist" nation. South Korea has also been progressing, albeit slowly, towards a better direction.
Also, I have no idea how religion plays into "fascism". Sure, there are and have been totalitarian ideologies that are theocratic, but there are also many totalitarian ideologies that either eschewed religion or were noticeably anti-religious. It seems like you just picked out an easy target to belittle here.
On June 06 2011 06:50 koreasilver wrote: South Korea pretty much fulfills all of this extremely well save for 4 and 8, but it isn't a "fascist" nation. South Korea has also been progressing, albeit slowly, towards a better direction.
Also, I have no idea how religion plays into "fascism". Sure, there are and have been totalitarian ideologies that are theocratic, but there are also many totalitarian ideologies that either eschewed religion or were noticeably anti-religious. It seems like you just picked out an easy target to belittle here.
And yeah maybe the religious part is only something, we, the europeans and americans and people living in Afghanistan, and where ever Taliban emerges, have to worry about.
We stepped out of a far more immediate fascism that South Korea was steeped in during the military dictatorships. Korea has had a corrupt government for like the past 500 years, and this corruption still continues on through today, and the current conservative government has made some pretty bad steps backwards, but to say that we have "stepped into fascism" as of late is really quite polemic. In the bigger picture South Korea has been progressing forward over time.
And good job on missing the entire point to press on your zealous anti-religion ideology.
Your rhetoric makes about as much sense as those idiots that say, "Mao and Stalin were communists and they killed lots of people and they were also anti-religious so like communism = atheism = killing people," or, "Nazi = National Socialism, and SOCIALISM is a commie thing and Nazis killed people SO BEING A SOCIALIST IS BEING A NAZI."
Little different from saying, "hey the Talibans and those theocracies are authoritarian so RELIGION IS FASCISTIC".
On June 06 2011 01:37 Empyrean wrote: America pretty much satisfies all of the above criteria :/
EDIT: Except eight. It does a good job at avoiding that.
But then again
EDIT: Yeah i know i shouldnt make a post where most of it is a picture, but it just happens that sometime a picture says more than words. Sorry if i hurt someones feelings.
On June 06 2011 01:37 Empyrean wrote: America pretty much satisfies all of the above criteria :/
EDIT: Except eight. It does a good job at avoiding that.
But then again
EDIT: Yeah i know i shouldnt make a post where most of it is a picture, but it just happens that sometime a picture says more than words. Sorry if i hurt someones feelings.
On June 06 2011 01:37 Empyrean wrote: America pretty much satisfies all of the above criteria :/
EDIT: Except eight. It does a good job at avoiding that.
But then again
EDIT: Yeah i know i shouldnt make a post where most of it is a picture, but it just happens that sometime a picture says more than words. Sorry if i hurt someones feelings.
"1835"?
It turns out it was a typo, it was actually from 1935. Yeah like yesterday night just before i came to sleep i thought it was strange facism were already mentioned in 1835, but then BAM and i was sleeping, and the mysterie could live another day.
But now the mysterie is solved, the quote is, of from what i have heard, a book called "It Can't Happen Here".
On June 07 2011 02:33 Hawk wrote: Oh cool, another exeexe political thread!! This one is almost as good as that time you confused capitalism with animal rights.
lol this is what the capitalist can put up once the truth gets out. What are you gonna do next? call in the state and shut me down, silence me? rofl whatever..
1 powerful and continuing nationalism 2 disdain for human rights 3 idintification of enemies as a unifying cause 4 Supremacy of the militant 5 rampant sexism 6 controlled mass media 7 Obsession with national security 8 Government and religion intertwined 9 Coporate power protected 10 Labour power supressed 11 Disdain for intellectuals and arts 12 Obsession with crime and punishment 13 Rampant cronyism and corruption 14 fraudulent elections
You seem to have Totalitarianism, Theocracy, and Facism all confused. I highlighted the points that true fascism actually embodies. And may I point out that Facism is awesome.
EDIT: Except eight. It does a good job at avoiding that.
You cannot be serious.
That’s not the same thing as government and religion intertwined. Since the majority of Americans are religious, it makes sense that they would rather have an elected official in charge that has religious ties with them. It makes it easier for the voting public to connect with the politician. Additionally, people feel more comfortable voting for others who share similar beliefs. Number 8 refers more to stuff like states with official state religions or personality cults.
On June 09 2011 17:36 Ryuu314 wrote: That’s not the same thing as government and religion intertwined.
That's true. I just wanted to show how deeply entrenched Christianity is in American culture with that image. It should then come as no surprise that that same culture leads to things like this, which is an example of government and religion being intertwined:
On June 09 2011 20:51 Empyrean wrote: Came across this great post in the atheism subreddit. It's pretty much everything I wanted to say, just with ten times the research.
Interesting. Why oh why do people feel the need to force their religious hypocrisy upon the public view. Although The Theory of Evolution can be a far more dangerous conflict-causing agent if misunderstood. Then again we could all be brainwashed into believing science is real, it would be a BIG job arranging some irrational bullshit mechanism to seem logical and methodically analyzable but hey .. you never know. We could all be standing with our backs to a fire and claiming we know the color of the fire by looking at our shadows. I don't believe that but .. just saying.
3 idintification of enemies as a unifying cause yes
4 Supremacy of the militant not so much
5 rampant sexism not so much
6 controlled mass media no, but self-censoring mass media
7 Obsession with national security yes
8 Government and religion intertwined yes
9 Coporate power protected yes
10 Labour power supressed no
11 Disdain for intellectuals and arts no
12 Obsession with crime and punishment yes
13 Rampant cronyism and corruption Has been observed but whether its rampant i dont know
14 fraudulent elections no
Conclusion: thats 7 times yes and 3 times no I wont call Denmark facist, mainly because of this
10 Labour power supressed no
and 14 fraudulent elections no
But with 7 yes there is definately something evil going on and its definately giving enough reason be on the barricades!
That doesnt make any sense. Your answers are just wrong.
Disdain for human rights? Denmark? Explain....?
There is this case with Birthe Rønn Hornbech: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statsløse-sagen FN's Børnekonvention = UNs konvention for children is the first set of rules that made up the human rights.
Denmark participated in the War against terror, and invaded afganistan, here they captured peaceful people and terrorist and what not. According to the rules you must know that they will not be subjected to torture before you hand them over to other nations like the USA. So Denmark proclaimed they had confidence that USA would not misstreat them, but so they did.
Protokol 12 - Diskrimination 12. tillægsprotokol forbyder diskrination i enhver form, såsom køn, race, hudfarve, sprog, religion, politisk eller anden overbevisning, national eller social oprindelse, tilknytning til en national minoritet, ejendom, fødestatus eller anden status.
Danmark har ikke (pr. 2005) ratificeret.
Rule 12: Discrimination bla bla bla, Dont discriminate people
Denmark has not ratified it (per 2005) I have read on other sources that it was still not ratified in 2010.
And why do you think that Denmark has not ratified rule 12 which is about discrimination? LOL
Obsession with national security? No? Nobody is obsessed with anything.
You come here and thread the national security then we shall see what happens to you
We engaged in iraq and afgahnistan. Because we wanted to give them democracy? No because they were a thread to us with weapons of mass destruction and with terrorist acts, or so they told us. Wether it is true or not doesnt make any difference because it just shows that national security has a high priority.
Look they are just stand holding up a sign:
And yet police came and took them away and put them to jail (released the next day), they posed no threat at all, and just tried to spread a peaceful political message. So if you see, this, totally peaceful activism, what do you not think will happen if you come with a national thread?
Obsession with crime and punishment? No. Explain what you mean by this, i dont get it.
Harder punishment, longer time in jails. Our jail system is collapsing cause rules and laws are getting stricter and stricter, meanwhile the jails recieves no additional funds, and it simply cant take it anymore.
That doesnt make any sense. Your answers are just wrong.
So why are my answers just wrong? Explain why do you think you are correct even before you had read my answers. You just assumed my answers was wrong even without listening to my explainations? What kind of a human are you? Just walking around judging people right or wrong without listening to their explainations? You dont live here (according to the information provided), you think you know Denmark better than me? ..What did you think
I live parttime (60%) in the Netherlands and (40%) in Germany since my girlfriend lives there, so ill try to fill in for both countries.
1 powerful and continuing nationalism There are some extremist nationalists in both countries. I dont know if you could call it powerfull though. But if you actually read how this question is meant No. 2 disdain for human rights There is some, but not a lot. Currently there is more disdain for human for human rights (mostly in the religion area) in the Netherlands.
3 identification of enemies as a unifying cause This is heapening in all western countries since 9/11. so, yes.
4 Supremacy of the militant No on both counts.
5 rampant sexism Nope
6 controlled mass media No
7 Obsession with national security hmm, not really, only within a small group.
8 Government and religion intertwined Not exactly sure what you mean by this. I'm thinking No
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