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On May 23 2011 06:52 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2011 06:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Now as for the rest of the mafia. Kita is one of them, I've been suspicious of him for a while now and the vote checks just helped confirm that. The rest of the mafia are in this pool of people.
Ace, Chaoser, Mr. Wiggles, Foolishness, or Eiii.
Out of these people I'm inclined to say the mafia is Ace, Chaoser, and Foolishness. I'm not sure what vote checking lists you are looking at, but I fail to see how the vote check helps confirm I am scum. Assuming tnkted is scum, there is 1 scum out of the 7 remaining. How does the vote check confirm your argument? In addition, assuming there have been no covers, only one of Ace, chaoser and Foolishness is mafia. Did you even read the vote checks?
Ok fuck I missunderstood the top list wiggles posted. Back to the drawing board on the grand scumlist although I still plan to do an analysis of Chaoser.
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Alright yeah I completely blew that call there, now that I understand what the voting lists mean I'm almost 100% sure Chaoser is mafia. And Kita you are the scummiest person remaining on the killerSOS voting list once tnkted is removed so that's why I'm so sure you're scum (I will grant you that arguments can be made for Mr. Wiggles, Eii, and possibly Kurumi but I've already explained why I don't suspect Wiggles or Eiii, and Kurumi falls under the same example Eiii does.
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On May 23 2011 06:49 infinitestory wrote:
Does a townie Caller GF get to use his Alignment DT ability from the start?
No. Follows what is written in the role description.
Do Watcher and (doesn't really matter) Tracker count as Detective roles for the purposes of Police Radio?
Can't answer because it's not public information.
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United States4053 Posts
Oh, in that case we do have a living Alignment DT! :D happy news
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Hey guys, I'm sorry I basically missed a whole day but something personal came up and I was too preoccupied to find a computer and post.
##vote tnkted
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On May 23 2011 08:07 infinitestory wrote:
Oh, in that case we do have a living Alignment DT! :D happy news
^_^
Can I request he check Caller tonight? If he finds him town he should let us know, so we know there is a framer at play. If he is scum then we can trust our list checks to be mostly reliable, at least at finding scum. If the DT would rather do something else then we probably have no choice but to lynch Caller tomorrow, which I would rather not do, as lynches for information are terrible play.
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On May 23 2011 08:16 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2011 08:07 infinitestory wrote:
Oh, in that case we do have a living Alignment DT! :D happy news ^_^ Can I request he check Caller tonight? If he finds him town he should let us know, so we know there is a framer at play. If he is scum then we can trust our list checks to be mostly reliable, at least at finding scum. If the DT would rather do something else then we probably have no choice but to lynch Caller tomorrow, which I would rather not do, as lynches for information are terrible play.
or framer, if he exists, will just frame Caller, and we're right back at square 1 >____>
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Since everyone is apparently focused on me, I'm going to claim so that we can move on from the topic of me and onto hopefully better topics. You guys can lynch me to confirm my role. I'm a Modern Detective. I only got to check bum due to missing last night and wasn't able to check anyone and got back a good result. I won't reveal his role but I will say he has a power. That means if GM is telling the truth then on the voting for
INCOGNITO (5): Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Chaoser, Barundar
Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Barundar, one of them is mafia. I'm betting on it being Foolishness from previous posts. I haven't read anything since I last posted and probably won't have time till late tomorrow night due to previously stated personal reasons.
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You guys can leave me to be killed by mafia tonight.
lol, well i figure it two ways. Either town lynches me or mafia wastes a shot on me. It's a waste since people already think i'm mafia. So they're just helping town clear the field and also confirming someone (bum) who I highly doubt was covered. So It'd be better if you guys let mafia just kill me. If they don't I have another night to check someone and whenever town does decide to lynch me, I will dump all of my info that I've checked.
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United States4053 Posts
Come on, what's with the wave of suicidal players? You should know that a Modern Detective is worth more than that.
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Foolishness
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Why would you claim now when we're not even going to kill you for another day?
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That's a rather thoughtless thing to do Chaoser, and it doesn't really make me think you're not mafia. It actually smells a lot like tnkted's medic claim. But we have a much better lynch target so I'll hold off on you and see what happens tonight.
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kitaman27
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Sigh you didn't use your night check last night and now you want to die? Why not sub out?
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Hmm well Im going to hold off on pushing chaoser, he appropriately responded how I think he should. He should have waited with the claim if he didn't find any reason for it, but I don't think he fully caught up with everything (barundar is dead, and I don't really think town has any need to confirm me of all people).
He's just another target on mafia's long list of people to get rid of with their whopping one KP. Hope you get back in the swing chowser.
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So like I said I'm going to hold off on Chaoser until next day cycle. However I'm worried that the fact we caught a scum so early is going to squash potential scum hunting and discussion that could go on. With that said what does everyone think about having a debate for tomorrow's lynch. Obviously things will change during the night but we've got 24 hours left in the day so I say we use it to discuss and scum hunt.
If it was tomorrow's lynch who would you kill and why? I still have really bad feelings about Ace so it would probably be him. He has tunneled two players, one who was crazy but not necessarily scummy, and another who 75 percent would probably agree is town. His arguments against them have been muddled and his overall attitude has been one of extreme apathy. I don't recall if he's ever properly analyzed someone beyond implying that "I'm Ace and I'm right."
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Slow day I guess, no suprise 
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On May 23 2011 14:20 bumatlarge wrote:Slow day I guess, no suprise
Which is frustrating because it's letting the scum lurk their little hearts out.
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Ok, so things we can discuss:
What to do with GM's vote-list check
Who is are good candidates for role-checks
Who are good candidates for alignment checks
If anyone needs to be shot
I'll start:
For Gm's vote list check, I'm going to look back and see if there are any lists that can be cross-referenced to currently existing ones to help narrow down candidates. Barring that, I think GM's list might be useful to use on the tnkted vote today, to verify two things. One, the presence of any GF, and two, the presence of any framers. We have a nice advantage, in that we know the scum numbers this game, and after day 3, moles will officially count as mafia, so the only other factor we need to worry about is the traitor. When we check the list, it should give us total visible scum numbers. If the number falls short of 4, then there is a GF, if it is larger than 4, then there is a traitor and/or framer. If the number is four, that doesn't tell us much though, as there are multiple possibilities for this, such as GF+framer, GF+traitor, or no traitor/GF/framer. Again, this is only barring that there isn't a list we can use to cross-check with the currently existing ones, and if we want to take a risk of no info. GM could also check one of the one person votes, and it would effectively become a DT check too.
Candidates for role-checks for me descending in order of importance are:
Foolishness
Chaoser
Eiii
Candidates for alignment checks for me with emphasis on the top 3 are:
Ace
Radfield
Caller
Kitaman27
I'm not sure if we have any shots left, but if there are:
Eiii
Kitaman27
Chaoser
Are all lurkers that can be shot. (With vig discretion)
There's some of my thoughts quickly, feel free to add or make changes, we need to get talking again.
Also, if there's anything particular, or some piece of analysis you want to discuss, now would be a good time to bring it up, when it won't be lost amidst the thread and we can go through stuff carefully.
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Looking at the view-count of the thread, it's been opened 9 times since I posted. I KNOW YOU'RE HERE, why aren't you posting? :p
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because i'm not playing TT
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