EPTThen again, it's sad that I expected there to be hate in the first place.
Good luck in whatever you guys are doing! Remember not everyone hates you.
Gay StarCraft Players - Page 79
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johanngrunt
Hong Kong1555 Posts
Then again, it's sad that I expected there to be hate in the first place. Good luck in whatever you guys are doing! Remember not everyone hates you. | ||
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theYa
Germany4 Posts
P.S. the only way you partner accepts Starcraft as hobby is you're being gay. my wife said. | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On May 19 2011 22:19 theYa wrote: men and women are pretty different, and here comes the question: is it in gay pairs often a "man" and a "woman" part ? or can you play starcraft/drink beer/bowl together? P.S. the only way you partner accepts Starcraft as hobby is you're being gay. my wife said. I think that a most people dont have the wife part. If they do they sound more like theire transexual or something. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 19 2011 10:52 Velocirapture wrote: 2) Gay people are a unique minority in that they are born somewhat randomly (some trends are being looked at) across all cultures all over the world. Every generation has to re-form the communities. The second point is also part of the reason there is so much confusion in how to express anything related to sexuality since a level of isolation around this issue is normal in early years. I think this is an amazing observation that's been glossed over, and one I'd never considered. Ethnic and religious minorities basically go down family to family, community to community. Gays don't have this luck, up to a point we're very much alone (thank you internet <3 for helping to ameliorate this). On May 19 2011 10:52 Velocirapture wrote: People self identify and practice homosexuality even in countries where the punishment for it is severe (death and so on) and harassment/denial of rights is common (even in western countries) so there must be a motivation that overwhelms the TREMENDOUS adversity. This is worth emphasising as an obvious but good point against the "herp derp it's a choice" point of view. Generally most kids would be nuts to 'choose' to be different and part of a minority that isn't 100% accepted. I'm sure most gay kids went through a phase at the beginning of just wishing they were straight... some people never get over that. On May 19 2011 15:28 PinkStatic wrote: And even if that were how it works, If homosexuality is truly the "population control mechanism", why homosexuality? Why not increased impotency? Less sperm production? Fewer fertile periods? Or even higher tendencies for asexuality? Homosexuality is an unreliable method of population control because homosexual /can/ reproduce, and i'm sure many would /want/ to (and given modern medical science, many do in some manner). To claim homosexuality is this grand scheme by the all-too-mysterious "mother nature" means one of too things: Mother Nature didn't think things through, or said claim is wrong. This. People have an understandable but logically unsound view that causally links correlating factors. Just because A relates to B, doesn't mean A is because of B or vice versa. | ||
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Mugen8
Jamaica2 Posts
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 19 2011 23:01 Mugen8 wrote: When you get cheesed and rage do you call them fags? No. I say, well played aka "wp". | ||
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rbx270j
Canada540 Posts
If it were to be allowed, but only for members of the opposite sex (ie you're a gay man and it's only allowed for woman-woman), would you consider that a worse form of discrimination than it is now, or would you primarily see it as good because progress is being made? Also, would that change if it were your sex being given the privileges? | ||
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jarrydesque
584 Posts
On May 19 2011 23:22 rbx270j wrote: A question for the gay folks who do not live somewhere where gay marriage is allowed: If it were to be allowed, but only for members of the opposite sex (ie you're a gay man and it's only allowed for woman-woman), would you consider that a worse form of discrimination than it is now, or would you primarily see it as good because progress is being made? Also, would that change if it were your sex being given the privileges? Thats an interesting question. The answer would, of course, vary from person to person and would be more a matter of opinion. Personally, I feel it would be a step in the right direction. If only woman were allowed to get married to each other but men were not, it would mean that same sex marriage is not actually the problem that the constitution has, it would be something else related to men specifically. That in itself is a big step - a step that many countries have not yet been able to take now, in the year 2011. I think that if same sex marriage for woman was legal it would be only a matter of time before same sex marriage for men was allowed - it would just take some ironing out of the issues that they had previously with two men getting married. | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On May 19 2011 22:19 theYa wrote: men and women are pretty different, and here comes the question: is it in gay pairs often a "man" and a "woman" part ? or can you play starcraft/drink beer/bowl together? Contrary to what television wants everyone to believe, no not really. There are of course very feminine gays who will gladly act like a female in the relationship but most gay guys I know(even "bottoms") are just as manly as straight guys. I used to play football with my ex etc. On May 19 2011 23:01 Mugen8 wrote: When you get cheesed and rage do you call them fags? Yes. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 19 2011 23:22 rbx270j wrote: A question for the gay folks who do not live somewhere where gay marriage is allowed: If it were to be allowed, but only for members of the opposite sex (ie you're a gay man and it's only allowed for woman-woman), would you consider that a worse form of discrimination than it is now, or would you primarily see it as good because progress is being made? Also, would that change if it were your sex being given the privileges? Your questions are a bit confusing tbh. But no to both questions anyway. | ||
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sotmh
United States41 Posts
On May 19 2011 22:19 theYa wrote: men and women are pretty different, and here comes the question: is it in gay pairs often a "man" and a "woman" part ? or can you play starcraft/drink beer/bowl together? P.S. the only way you partner accepts Starcraft as hobby is you're being gay. my wife said. My BF is a death metal vocalist, so uh not really fitting the stereotype there. I'm the quintessential nerd/geek. I like American football, he likes hockey. I humor him by watching detective shows, he humors me by watching sci fi. It's not all that different from a straight relationship, there's just a lack of predefined gender roles. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 20 2011 01:31 sotmh wrote: My BF is a death metal vocalist, so uh not really fitting the stereotype there. I'm the quintessential nerd/geek. I like American football, he likes hockey. I humor him by watching detective shows, he humors me by watching sci fi. It's not all that different from a straight relationship, there's just a lack of predefined gender roles. Lol @ death metal vocalist. I'm the stereotypical gay guy compared to him. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On May 19 2011 22:19 theYa wrote: men and women are pretty different, and here comes the question: is it in gay pairs often a "man" and a "woman" part ? or can you play starcraft/drink beer/bowl together? P.S. the only way you partner accepts Starcraft as hobby is you're being gay. my wife said. This has nothing to do with sexuality, its not because someone is feminine that hes automatically gonna be unable to enjoy the "manly" things you do its on a person by person basis, there are girls that enjoy all the things you think unable to enjoy with your wife. | ||
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PinkStatic
Singapore11 Posts
On May 19 2011 15:41 krbz wrote: I am not saying a homosexual person is undesirable. There are plenty of fine ass women that are lesbians, and I'm certain there are handsome men that women would be fully attracted to, even tho they are gay. I can appreciate a woman's curve regardless of her sexual orientation. I am saying that if a person is strictly gay, meaning they never reproduce, then the "gay" gene cannot be passed on. Homosexuality, because of what it implies, tries to eliminate itself. I would say that is natural selection. What I am saying is that this is /not/ natural selection, because that's simply not how natural selection works, it is something else entirely. Sure, it may result in the same unfortunate consequences as natural selection, but it is not natural selection. This is very much like saying death by murder and death by suicide are the same thing - the result may be very similar, but there are essentially different causes :s. Natural selection implies undesirability to others, hence preventing reproduction. If you are not saying that a homosexual person is undesirable, then clearly it cannot be natural selection. Nature is not selecting anything. On May 19 2011 22:19 theYa wrote: men and women are pretty different, and here comes the question: is it in gay pairs often a "man" and a "woman" part ? or can you play starcraft/drink beer/bowl together? P.S. the only way you partner accepts Starcraft as hobby is you're being gay. my wife said. I think it's important to remember that gender and sexuality are 2 very different, seemingly related but actually unrelated things ^_^ | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
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Series7
United States12 Posts
I'd love to find some guys in my area who play Starcraft. If you're in Boston (or D.C., since I'll live there in a few months), shoot me a PM and we can play some matches/go out for a beer. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On May 20 2011 04:22 platorepublic wrote: The current scientific consensus is genes + environment:I think in the arena of asking "why is anyone homosexual at all?" scientists or experts have no certain answers yet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation | ||
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tdynasty
Canada220 Posts
I'm not going to be mean cause you claim to be "Gay" But because I think the OP is just silly. Was the Comment about Dick in your Mouth... Needed? Really this Thread is Really Not well Opened up with, Too much negative Emotion. All I know is, Gay men are Way too Foward with their sexuality, not that it bothers me, cause straight guys can equally be that way. Maybe I'm just part of that reserved group of Males who find sexuality is more of an affection thing. How much you care for someone, and like to keep that for someone special and not to throw around. I actually like the Aspect of this conversation about Why people are gay. As a Self aware human being, I thought about whether or not I was potentially Gay. (being good looking and reserved with macho friends meant I was gay for some reason  )Because let's be honest, men are also attractive. But When I say attractive I mean, well sculpted, features are desirable. Bottom Line it doens't come down to gential preference. More of that Heart Melting feeling. If you stand infront of a really Hot girl, she walks up to you and asks you a question. If you're heart starts to pound louder, and you instantly "Feel" something emotionally. You're 100% not gay. For me, That was the Key factor to determine if I had Bi-sexuality within. I can talk to any guy out there, and I know in me I won't feel anything like I do with a Lady. (tested) I think being attracted to men, is just a combination of genetic factors. And I think it started when humans had the potential to support large communites. Because Men naturally grouped together for survival needs. Too me it's only natural that men developed affection for one another equally to having affection for women. Being "gay" is not something wrong, or genetical mistake. But simply an amplification of male to male admiration and affection as Men also need other men to survive. Our Human emotions are very raw and we even create emotions through rationalization. Too me, this falls under that category of psychological human changes. Personally. I'm just bored, and Gay people should find each other I guess. Time for a Bad Joke. I wonder how many Fans a Gay pro SC2 Player would have. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 20 2011 05:14 tdynasty wrote: I don't mind this type of Thread. But Like seriously, I'm not Gay. I'm not going to be mean cause you claim to be "Gay" But because I think the OP is just silly. Was the Comment and Dick in your Mouth... Needed? Really this Thread is Really Not well Opened up with, Too much negative Emotion. All I know is, Gay men are Way too Foward with their sexuality, not that it bothers me, cause straight guys can equally be that way. Maybe I'm just part of that reserved group of Males who find sexuality is more of an affection thing. How much you care for someone. I actually like the Aspect of this conversation about Why people are gay. Personally. I'm just bored, and Gay people should find each other I guess. Time for a Bad Joke. I wonder how many Fans a Gay pro SC2 Player would have. Wow, the Caps Are really Distracting, seriously, More so than Your content. | ||
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Ullis
Sweden163 Posts
Props to you guys being openly gay in places where its not commonly accepted. Personally I never understood the big deal about being gay - but could be because I am not and havent had to go through whatever hardship it has put you fellas through. For me I am indifferent to other peoples sexual orientation as long as it doesn't hurt or involve someone unwilling to participate or incapable of understanding what it means (meant for those people equalizing stuff like pedophiles to gays..which just makes no sense). Anyway, hopefully one day people will just stop hating other people based on differences and we can all go about our lives the way we want it. And for the above poster who said "I wonder how many fans a gay pro sc2 player would have" why would sexual orientation possibly make a difference? And for all you know some of your favorite pros may just be gay. Anyhoo, I'm off. Peace. | ||
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