EPTOne thing you could do is snipe the observer with 3 vikings and move banshees in with cloak to finish as much of the ground as possible, but it's not massable the way reactor vikings are.
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Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
One thing you could do is snipe the observer with 3 vikings and move banshees in with cloak to finish as much of the ground as possible, but it's not massable the way reactor vikings are. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:19 FakeDeath wrote: Wow again all koreans advance today pretty much still proves their dominance in the SC2 scene.The number of foreigners that qualify are only 2 which one of them is a upset and the rest are koreans .Pretty sure the koreans are still way better. I think today's matches proves that a lot of "our" players are waay out of shape, nothing else imo. I've seen sooo many screwups today to fill up a codex, if you know what I mean, kind of things that I would've not imagined from the same players 2 months or so ago. | ||
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loveeholicce
Korea (South)785 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:12 Tachion wrote: It seems so weird that HuK and Jinro vP seems to be their worst matchup when they have the best protoss in the world to practice with. Is it because of the communication barrier? Or Is MC just a crappy teacher? btw do San and Anypro look extremely similar to anyone else? Or its cause its vP? Terrans have been having a rlly bad win rate vs toss for a while now, and for Huk its PvP which is just an inherently inconsistent / volatile matchup. | ||
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
Dimaga and TT1 will have to save our foreigners butts. GO GO GO Dimaga, win the whole thing! | ||
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Regretful
Sweden91 Posts
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Namu
United States826 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:22 PlosionCornu wrote: I think today's matches proves that a lot of "our" players are waay out of shape, nothing else imo. I've seen sooo many screwups today to fill an codex, if you know what I mean, kind of things that I would've not imagined from the same players 2 months or so ago. I wasn't too surprised by the results though. Not sure if you can just say Morrow was out of shape, seemed like MC was simply a much better player. I feel like the only foreigner that seemed "out of shape" was Jinro (I think sen's games were good and showed his skills). | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43516 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:20 DizzyDrone wrote: Huk's series against MVP was the exception, he lost those games because of small mistakes early on, he lost before the agression even started. In general, yeah i think they are being too passive. If you look at Huk's PvZ for example, you see he even has trouble taking his natural a lot. Ah okay. Yeah I agree with you that sitting back and playing passively will definitely cost them more games than they should be losing. Constant aggression, poking, and knowledge of the entire map will stop ninja expos from going up and keep opponents on the back foot. iNcontroL calls it Shark Mode, and it prevents your opponent from doing whatever the heck they want. | ||
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ABOOMAN
Burma156 Posts
Todays performance of foreigners - not so much | ||
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awha
Denmark1358 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:21 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Go read urban dictionary, it's all over page 2, page 3 and it's on 4. Sorry bro, RIP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QFT could we cut the offtopic now please? | ||
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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mholden02
387 Posts
He didn't stop using bio though... he went that build on a map that was perfect for it ( because of the cliff at the nat ) ... and he barely won. If you played Terran you'd understand. I do play Terran. | ||
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TazzDingo
Germany502 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:21 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Go read urban dictionary, it's all over page 2, page 3 and it's on 4. Sorry bro, RIP. Everything that's not on page 1 of urban dictionary is pretty much ... crap, you know? now, what does RIP mean in your world? :> | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43516 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:24 ABOOMAN wrote: todays matches made me miss Idra in gsl so much, even while losing he always looked so solid. Todays performance of foreigners - not so much I'm curious as to what IdrA has to say about the World tournament and the Korea vs. World showmatch. | ||
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Tokadub
United States168 Posts
You really only want to open up with 2 reactors if you think they are going to void ray rush or 3 gate immortal rush. Against collusus death balls its a horrible opening. Even if he opened up 3 rax with 2 tech and 1 reactor I still think he would have lost though. He would have had even less gas and his vikings were already to late. Game 2 is pretty much what I think all protoss should do against terran. When a good protoss does that build I need a miracle to win. The timing for terran to have enough marauders medivacs and vikings in time for that push is ridiculous. When terran fast expands it is VERY hard to get the starport tech up and running while still having enough ground units for that timing by protoss. Just seems to me like terran is at a disadvantage in the matchup because 4 gates can kill you so easily you need to be VERY careful. And even if you do fast expand it seems like with chronoboost protoss can hit that collusus timing a lot easier then terran can hit the viking timing. | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
And still he is right. Just get over it. Many foreigners are lacking in showing good results AND consistency. Koreans might not be that far ahead as a lot of people think. But the gap is still there. We have no foreigner of whom you can say that he will beat the most of the koreans. Someone like Grubby for the WC3-scene is still missing. | ||
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Namu
United States826 Posts
On March 31 2011 21:24 ABOOMAN wrote: todays matches made me miss Idra in gsl so much, even while losing he always looked so solid. Todays performance of foreigners - not so much Idra hasn't been producing such good results after coming back to NA... | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
Also huk didn't have any colossi... 3 of the same pushes in a row, and very predictable gateway builds. So yes that works vs gateway builds. | ||
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Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
Not being fast enough to shift right click spam your tanks on the colossi and stalkers will get them and your army killed to zealots. They need absolute critical mass to be good, whereas 2-3 colossi are enough. The M&M&M combination is still more solid, but the problem seems to be getting enough vikings out to kill off the colossi while still having the ground units, also with chargelots tanking a stupid amount of damage. I don't think a mass biomech transition is going to be what saves TvP. Terrans will just have to play better and transition better. | ||
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