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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
On March 28 2011 22:42 brum wrote: Is there a reason for not having recommended games polls? Or am i just blind? Best ones so far IMO were Morrow-Jinro game 2 and QXC-Genius game 2. And the Thorzain-FD series. | ||
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Jarlax
76 Posts
On March 28 2011 21:18 Newguy wrote: lol theres nothing all that abnormal about it - go look at how GSL WC day 1 turned out, guess lag must have been the issue there too, eh? U are missing my point - i dont complain about lag and i doubt it had much to do with the results - i doubt (for example) Idra lagged and lost the game even tho no one reasonable would consider cruncher a better player (thats just example u could say same with most other games as well). Problem with sc2 is that u play a lot of top games being blind at early stages of the match - especially as zerg but not only. This produce opportunities for lower skilled players to win against those which are better by cheese or hidden tech or simply by not being able to predict what enemy can do as he can do pretty much everything. Often u have to decide ur army composition based on luck and prediction rather then knowledge - no matter how good ur macro and micro are and how much better ur overall game sense is u will still lose to the "lucky" guy as long as he wont make huge blunder with controlling his units. Football and other most popular real sports rarely got such surprises bcoz those top players ain't gonna lose by 1 unlucky decision made blindly. In current sc2 meta this 1 bad decision can cost u game or even tournament. While this wouldnt be a problem if this "luck factor" would be part of maybe less then 5% of the games i could risk the statement that atm its somewhere between 30-40%. This suck balls and if u are blind fanboy who refuse to acknowledge it then good game for u. So far TSL results are best proof. | ||
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Tonic420
Canada59 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10565 Posts
Probably Goody vs Nestea game 2? But this was a nice mindgame... And then? | ||
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Malhorn
United States148 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10565 Posts
Karma catched Idra, thats what happened... Not the other way around.. | ||
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Volshok
United States349 Posts
On March 29 2011 00:03 Malhorn wrote: Very classless of Cruncher in game 3. Really hope Karma catches up to him soon. Very BM... I don't think it's fair to apply such a double standard. It's not like Idra is known for his good manners, especially considering his lack of GL/GG in the games. I loved all the games, gonna throw in my support for Mondragon and NaDa in the next round. | ||
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drcatellino
Canada346 Posts
On March 28 2011 22:35 Velr wrote: Seriously? I thought the TLO vs Nada games, especially game 1, was something of the most retarded i ever saw. Fast Ghost into Fast Gold into Fast Nuke whiteout a standing army? Are you serious? Well, it endet as expected: Fast Ghost did not enough Damage, TLO got rolled. I saw TLO do that three different times on Xel Naga. It was the first time he didn't win. Stop trying to play the wise guy and think you are better than the pro. | ||
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thehorsebecomesking
189 Posts
On March 29 2011 00:03 Malhorn wrote: Very classless of Cruncher in game 3. Really hope Karma catches up to him soon. Very BM... It would not be karma, hard to believe he can advance past ro16  That guy jumped over his head already, probably the biggest moment of fame he will ever get. | ||
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Firereaver
India1701 Posts
GG... But, Im really here to say : sdfghjkldakjshzghfartglfivurgbi7zseyoairavnw;tpovm'qM{i#{iqr+91v\=8 NADA FTWWW | ||
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ChApFoU
France2982 Posts
The word upset almost loses it's meaning as every single game where there was a favorite has went upside down except MC vs Ciarra. I also think there was A LOT of guys being way too confident coming into the TSL, esp the koreans but that's just speculation. Upsets are good for the audience but I'm pretty pissed about Liquid getting almost wiped in the round of 32. Now Tyler will carry all the weight of saving the day for the home team but I have faith, he's the champion after all. Also, I really don't get why Idra is keeping on with that cocky attitude. It has jinxed him so many times. You have to feel pretty embarassed when you lost a match you "approched like it was a walkover". | ||
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Iracor
United States66 Posts
On March 29 2011 00:34 ChApFoU wrote: Also, I really don't get why Idra is keeping on with that cocky attitude. It has jinxed him so many times. You have to feel pretty embarassed when you lost a match you "approched like it was a walkover". ^This, and the worst part is that he'll blame the loss again on "imbalance" and "how the game is broken" and "zerg can't win". I'd be more willing to accept his opinion if he actually put in the effort and prepared for EVERY match no matter his perceived skill level of his opponent. Hopefully this will be the loss that gets him to snap out of the cocky attitude and realize he actually has to approach every match as if he were the underdog. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On March 29 2011 00:03 Malhorn wrote: Very classless of Cruncher in game 3. Really hope Karma catches up to him soon. Very BM... Before G1: Idra: Boy it must suck when skill matters After G1: No GG Before G1: Idra: you're pretty talented After G2: Cruncher GG Idra no response G3: HOW IS THIS NOT WELL DESERVED! | ||
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Budmandude
United States123 Posts
And yeah, Idra is just reaping what he sowed when he got run over after aproaching a match "like it was a walkover." He was definately the better player, but that doesn't mean you can be cocky and take a win completely for granted (and televise to the public that you think as such) and then be surprised when you lose. Made for a great story line though and I'm pretty sure I had an aneurysm when I saw the "  " as I had horrible splitting headache for the rest of the day. | ||
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Tennet
United States1458 Posts
On March 29 2011 00:59 LemOn wrote: Before G1: Idra: Boy it must suck when skill matters After G1: No GG Before G1: Idra: you're pretty talented After G2: Cruncher GG Idra no response G3: HOW IS THIS NOT WELL DESERVED! Idra said Boy it must suck when skill matters after he won in game 2... | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On March 29 2011 00:07 Volshok wrote: I don't think it's fair to apply such a double standard. It's not like Idra is known for his good manners, especially considering his lack of GL/GG in the games. Dont forget IDRA's BM in the lobby after game 1 and 2. The screenshots were posted earlier but I cannot recall on which page. I would say karma caught up to Idra. On March 28 2011 21:11 Jarlax wrote: To answer u question - i think its weak bcoz those giant-killers ain't rly that good in my opinion. They won best out of 2 which is quite random itself - it happens that better player fuck up something but overall he is still much better player. If those "giant-killers" were rly that good they would be considered giants as well. But if u check predictions most of games like fruitdeals, idra, mvp etc had predictions around 95+ (and thats not random voting) How does a BO2 work exactly? Did you mean to say that a BO3 is not an accurate amount of time to display skill? What would you propose is a better setting BO5? 7? 9? 11? 25? Lets not even get into your use of the BRACKET numbers as supporting proof for player X being massively more talented than player Y. That is jsut silly. | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
On March 28 2011 20:23 Rielle wrote: 1. LOL the drone "prevented" him from going 4 gate. I'm not even going to bother saying anything about how bad you made yourself sound with that. And "scouting chrono on warpgate" hmmm i wonder why a protoss might chrono his warpgate upgrade? Maybe to get lots of wargates and rush. Kinda obvious isn't? 2+3. Yes he scouted but got very little info. I didn't say it was bad. I just said it was meaningless because any build could still be coming. 4. Yes he failed. Anyone who thinks he didn't fail is just a pure IdrA fan boy. You see chrono warpgates and ~10 sentries. Its 100% an attack to win/kill. 100%. No other option. You don't chrono the warpgate upgrade and make ~10 sentries to get a 2nd expo. Hi, thanks for defending me, Rielle. But don't waste your time on WhiteDog. I am skilled enough to make judgements about Idra's play. Especially something as easy to see as I noticed during game 3. If Idra doesn't see a 6-gate incoming, there is no excuse for it. Period. There is _ample_ time to scout that. It's no 4-gate, it's no hidden void ray, it's a plain 6-gate push and making drones was a poor decision. Regarding game 1, I won't go into detail, but if someone can't see that Idra again made really poor decisions, I can't help it. Watch better zerg players who will hopefully be seen/developed soon enough. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On March 28 2011 23:45 Jarlax wrote: U are missing my point - i dont complain about lag and i doubt it had much to do with the results - i doubt (for example) Idra lagged and lost the game even tho no one reasonable would consider cruncher a better player (thats just example u could say same with most other games as well). Problem with sc2 is that u play a lot of top games being blind at early stages of the match - especially as zerg but not only. This produce opportunities for lower skilled players to win against those which are better by cheese or hidden tech or simply by not being able to predict what enemy can do as he can do pretty much everything. Often u have to decide ur army composition based on luck and prediction rather then knowledge - no matter how good ur macro and micro are and how much better ur overall game sense is u will still lose to the "lucky" guy as long as he wont make huge blunder with controlling his units. Football and other most popular real sports rarely got such surprises bcoz those top players ain't gonna lose by 1 unlucky decision made blindly. In current sc2 meta this 1 bad decision can cost u game or even tournament. While this wouldnt be a problem if this "luck factor" would be part of maybe less then 5% of the games i could risk the statement that atm its somewhere between 30-40%. This suck balls and if u are blind fanboy who refuse to acknowledge it then good game for u. So far TSL results are best proof. You are really gonna say that when VCU and Butler just made the Final Four? Upsets happen all the time in real sports dude. | ||
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silentsaint
Germany540 Posts
On March 29 2011 00:10 drcatellino wrote: I saw TLO do that three different times on Xel Naga. It was the first time he didn't win. Stop trying to play the wise guy and think you are better than the pro. Its pretty much like Day9 said in one of his dailys. If you do something that is not standard a lot of people will say "its not standard, therefore it is not valid!". Every build ever conceived was not standard when somebody thought it out. It has to start somewhere. | ||
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Krigstar
Sweden77 Posts
On March 29 2011 00:03 Malhorn wrote: Very classless of Cruncher in game 3. Really hope Karma catches up to him soon. Very BM... It was beautiful and Idra as always deserve everything bad that happens to him gamewise. Spending three years in Korea and still have so little skill that you need to keep up the insecure high school kid style in order to keep getting recognition is sad. It worked out pretty well for both sides in the end though. Idra gets to bitch and whine in a podcast or video soon enough if he hasn't already while the proffessionals keep winning. Both do what they are good at and seem to enjoy the most. | ||
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