EPTHopefully NASL turns out great btw.
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32263 Posts
Hopefully NASL turns out great btw. | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
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NYXinc
Germany74 Posts
I for my part love a good tournament but I also know that SC2 is just a game and we should have fun enjoin it. I hope you still remain a unique figure in e-sports and voice your opinion in all the forums and shows you partake. Anyone makes mistakes and you seem to regret this. I hope that the NASL turns out great and will produce a lot of epic games. I will for sure follow this tournament as well no matter how you (the NASL) decide to pic the players. I think that I understand and get how your rants are mend and I take them not relay serious but I have a great time reading them or hearing them on SotG and i think that makes this show different form the other podcast about strategies tournaments and Starcraft related news. To sum up my post please do not change all to much and keep us entertained. | ||
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Aerodozz
United States3 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:01 CaptainTwig wrote: Amongst all the apologising, which I completely respect, you seem to have neglected the issue with John 'Total Biscuit' Bain. As I read through I was sure his name would arise at some point. It hasn't. I heard on SotG that Kelly asked you to stop impersonating her which let to your 'making up' (I don't know the details of course) are you expecting the first move my TB also? In my honest opinion, I know it's not in your protoss nature but why not just go all in make the apology here, then I think a lot of fans like me can rest assured knowing everything is all nice at settled. Honestly, all Incontrol did was (attempt to) imitate their accents. With Kelly it's understandably a sensitive issue, what with all the shit she's been getting about her commenting. But TB seems to be a thick-skinned chap, so you shouldn't worry about him. I really hope you dont change too much, Incontrol. I find you hilarious, and obviously others do too, which is the reason why you're now the face of NASL. Except you're not 'nice' hilarious. You're the kind of guy that talks trash while being funny. That's far harder to pull off, because you're constantly walking the line. Ask Stephen Colbert. I'd hate to see a SOTG where you're just creeping in the background not saying anything and apologizing when you do. Say everything you would say, after thinking about it for a second. I'm sure you're already aware of this, I just want to reiterate it. As for NASL, let's show the rest of the world how it's done. | ||
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dr_draik
South Africa2 Posts
With that said, I believe that the reaction to this was somewhat overblown, in that iNcontrol has become the focus of the hopes and fears of many e-sports lovers, as the face of the NASL, and as such is going to be held to an impossibly high standard of professionalism and seriousness. He's a man, just like any other, with his own quirks and foibles, so he will always disappoint those who (to horribly misuse a cliche) expect the stars, even if they get the moon! I have never doubted his passion for e-sports, so I believe he will learn from his mistakes, because he honestly wants the best possible outcome for Western e-sports. And let's all be honest - reddit hiveminds pretty darn hard. Upvotes and downvotes are very easy to spam out, and we can all be fickle at times.This should also be a reminder that reddit also has a level of prominance in the SC2 community, and has a responsibility to be even-handed. The extremists only stand out when the moderates aren't bothered enough to post, so more of that needs to happen. As to the Kelly thing - I think most people realised pretty soon that, to be blunt, they were being tossers about her accent. I think she's doing pretty darn well given three days of live casting experience, so big ups to her. Let's move on from that stuff. Edit: Oh, and to everyone who is saying "don't give in to the haters": I don't believe iNcontrol is giving in to haters. I think he is taking criticism (led vocally and far too etremely by the aforementioned haters) and resolving to improve based on that criticism. The ability to acknowledge that you are at fault and to attempt to remedy that is a strength, not a weakness. So good job iNcontrol, this bodes well for NASL! | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
from a player....to a giant | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:12 Vequeth wrote: Way to over generalize, reddit are reacting well to incontrol's actions. The reddit posters claimed incontrol's actions were going to be the downfall of western esports. I guess that's "reacting well". | ||
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ImHuko
United States996 Posts
After reading this, I have to say that I am a iNcontrol fan again, glad you are taking steps in the right direction to make this as awesome as everyone wants it to be! (This might have been better in a PM, but I figured since it was a blog) | ||
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sarge89
Norway147 Posts
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-Xav-
United States18 Posts
Keep up the good work iNcontrol. | ||
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WTL
47 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:19 BroOd wrote: Yeah, please don't start ragging on reddit users (many of whom are your fellow TL users). Yeah, TL users. Any time reddit mentions TL the thread turns into a mockery of TL, insulting the way it's ran here. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/fotg2/does_anyone_else_find_tl_completely_confusing_and/ http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/fqw24/whats_with_all_the_quicktoban_fags_at_tl/ http://www.reddit.com/r/SecretNaughtySC/comments/fp3ua/dae_think_that_teamliquids_reading_comprehension/ http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/fj0gb/its_shit_like_this_thats_ruining_teamliquid/ "The only thing I use TL for is finding out when events are happening and using the stream list, otherwise its a complete clusterfuck." "The website established a pretty strong community, but is now obsolete. The content is entirely user driven, but the framework to hold it all is outdated." "That's what reddit is for, we balance people out and keep them on their toes. Now incontrol just needs to think straight and stop whining about the community so damn much." (How elitist can you get?) "It's unreadable because of how the community on TL dick rides the brood war pro-gamers." That was 5 seconds of searching. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Sarley
United States11 Posts
I quit smoking two days ago and at this point, I'm ready to climb out of my own skin and wind it up like a wet towel to slap everyone in the vicinity. Let me get all sappy-ass on you for a second and say you're inspiration to me, personally, and here's why: First of all, you admitted to a community of thousands that you made a mistake, and said your sorries in front of us all. Ball check, 'nuff said. Secondly, you're making a conscious change in how you present yourself to us, and you're sacrificing some freedom for the betterment of the community. It's obvious how much you love this, and it's such an incredible motivator for me to take care of my shit and make the effort to get where I want to be in life. You're taking on the responsibility of changing the face of eSports in the West. It's not going to be easy, but you're living, breathing it every day, pouring every ounce of dedication you have into our entertainment. You're proving yourself as a man of great worth to many. Know that you have the trust and support of a complete stranger. Thank you, and gl. | ||
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Vequeth
United Kingdom1116 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:33 Offhand wrote: The reddit posters claimed incontrol's actions were going to be the downfall of western esports. I guess that's "reacting well". I was talking about reacting to incontrols response to the drama. Untill that point of course anyone is going to go slightly mad with speculation about potential repercussions untill they read something like the OP. Such things happen in a thinly moderated environment. On February 26 2011 06:36 WTL wrote: Why do the posts of few reflect, in your eyes, the opinions of many? Whats your point? People arent allowed to dislike Teamliquid? | ||
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frozenthrawn
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shavi
United States127 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:36 WTL wrote: Yeah, TL users. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/fotg2/does_anyone_else_find_tl_completely_confusing_and/ http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/fqw24/whats_with_all_the_quicktoban_fags_at_tl/ http://www.reddit.com/r/SecretNaughtySC/comments/fp3ua/dae_think_that_teamliquids_reading_comprehension/ http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/fj0gb/its_shit_like_this_thats_ruining_teamliquid/ "The only thing I use TL for is finding out when events are happening and using the stream list, otherwise its a complete clusterfuck." "The website established a pretty strong community, but is now obsolete. The content is entirely user driven, but the framework to hold it all is outdated." "It's unreadable because of how the community on TL dick rides the brood war pro-gamers." That was 5 seconds of searching. The first post is asking if you find TL hard to navigate, to Hotbid and Kennigit both responded with funny, sarcastic comments basically agreeing that it's pretty hard to navigate for new users. The second post has 5 upvotes and 16 downvotes. The third post is a 0 rated thread with 1 comment and no upvotes. The fourth post is another thread that has more downvotes than it has upvotes. Maybe try harder? And one of those isn't even from R/SC it's from a completely different subreddit. | ||
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WTL
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On February 26 2011 06:37 Vequeth wrote: I was talking about reacting to incontrols response to the drama. Untill that point of course anyone is going to go slightly mad with speculation about potential repercussions untill they read something like the OP. Such things happen in a thinly moderated environment. Why do the posts of few reflect, in your eyes, the opinions of many? Whats your point? People arent allowed to dislike Teamliquid? How about the fact that we hold that website in a high regard even though when every time a TL thread pops up, an overwhelming amount of reddit users just make fun of it? On February 26 2011 06:40 kpzd wrote: The first post is asking if you find TL hard to navigate, to Hotbid and Kennigit both responded with funny, sarcastic comments basically agreeing that it's pretty hard to navigate for new users. The second post is a 0 rated thread with 1 comment and no upvotes. The third post is another thread that has more downvotes than it has upvotes. Maybe try harder? Maybe you should read the comments? Namely the top rated one? | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:33 ImHuko wrote: When I made a response to you while banned, this is exactly what I wanted to let you know how I feel. I didn't intend for this to turn into the shitstorm that it did, but I felt I was being ignored, and then banned, so reddit was my only hope. After reading this, I have to say that I am a iNcontrol fan again, glad you are taking steps in the right direction to make this as awesome as everyone wants it to be! (This might have been better in a PM, but I figured since it was a blog) You framed it in the exact worst way possible. There is no way you could have phrased your reddit submission and your comments that would have caused more damage to the public perception of the NASL. You made it quite clear that you thought Incontrol was an irredeemable douchebag and shouldn't be associated with something like the NASL. It is obvious Incontrol didn't read a fucking thing anyone said. Another reason why he shouldn't be the face of one of the leading movements in E-Sports. Now he says some random fan pleasing bullshit that I can't respond to because I am banned. I want sponsors to think of fucking Day9 when they want to sponsor a huge E-Sport, not a guy who portrays himself as one of the biggest douche bags in the community. How are we supposed to support a company that profits off of stolen goods? So, I'm not going to say that you should apologize yourself or anything, but honestly you shouldn't be making excuses for what you did. | ||
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shavi
United States127 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:41 WTL wrote: How about the fact that we hold that website in a high regard when every time a TL thread pops up an overwhelming amount of reddit users just make fun of it? Maybe you should read the comments? Namely the top rated one? The joke about being banned for this post? Kennigit/Hotbids post? Agreeing that its hard to navigate outside of the streams? I'm not sure what post you're referring to. They're all complaining about the navigation of the site, not the content or the mods. | ||
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Justanx
United States240 Posts
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