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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 20:15:24
February 25 2011 19:59 GMT
#1
It is undeniable that there is a large fervor over my latest poor decisions. I have apologized but they have been speculated to be sarcastic or paired with snide remarks. If that is true then allow me now to make what I had intended to say very clear: I was wrong. I am sorry. There are no excuses. Mocking Kelly as I did was mean and inappropriate. Restreaming gsl was illegal and wrong. Especially given my public prominence.

I hope the community can forgive me. In either case I shall seek to improve. I love this game. I love this community. I am enveloped by my passion for all things sc2. The nasl to me represents a time of great opportunity for all. Raising the bar for western esports and making the game we know and love more accessible to new fans. If my persona or humor stands to deter that growth than how selfish am I too allow that to continue? I am the person for the job. I have the ability, the passion, the time and the desire. You may think you can name better people but for now you may just have to trust me that there are no others with these factors in alignment with their abilities.

With that in mind I want to beg you to trust that I am dedicated to doing this as best as I can. It is clear that means making changes. I am a public figure to a degree that previously was never realized by myself. I am no longer the joking or "douchy" persona on a podcast, streamer, EG captain or w/e... I am the face of a movement that is important to us all. As such I am prepared to make changes. A lot of people will see me announcing these changes as some kind of "martyring" but I can assure you I seek no such emotions. I truly believe what I did was wrong and sustaining that behavior would be a continued disservice to myself, those that have entrusted me with this role and the community I love.

At heart I am a joking person. I love a good debate and I love giving people a good hard time. I make mistakes and I have stepped over boundaries many many times. I can no longer in good conscience expose this side of myself as much as I have in the past. My profession and the community that is exposed to my profession demand a more serious approach. I do not look at this as a sacrifice but a necessary change. If I was just some player trying to commentate some games I would think my persona fine for that role. But I am not. I am the commentator for a league that is seeking to expand eSports in the west. I am a "face" for a brand that means a different future.

I promise you I will not be boring. I promise this doesn't mean I stop joking around entirely. But what it does mean is I will reduce my community exposure outside of the NASL.

That change is up to you the community. I want to hear what people think. I am a cohost of the podcast "State of the Game" and I have a stream on Justin.tv where I joke around a lot. I also post actively on TL and I read all other forums (reddit as well... )

There are going to be a lot of people that think this is a blog to get my ego stroked or to announce some martyr action or w/e. To those I am sorry, there probably is no convincing you that I truly do want to improve. To the rest please let me know what I can do to improve my performance for this community.

I will be at the GDC in san francisco. We are planning a meet n greet in the Rancho area this coming week. I will be at the PDX East and I will be at MLG Dallas this coming April. I want to meet each and every one of my supporters and critics alike and look you in the eye and swear by my beating heart that I love you, this community, this game and I am sorry if anything I have said and done has lead you to believe otherwise. Help me make the NASL something we can be proud to look at and say "we did it."

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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 21:15:42
February 25 2011 20:03 GMT
#2
iNcontroL fighting!

Edit:

My original line doesn't really sum up all I meant to say. iNcontroL, really this situation is the result of moving from the role of a player, to a major ESPORTS personality. Unfortunate timing, and a few missteps really created a big stir. I can see how people were/are offended by what happened. However, I believe that their was no ill intent, and forgiveness is definitely warranted. A lot of what caused the controversy, your humour and attitude in general, is a great part of why you are such an awesome guy- please don't change! With that said, I reiterate:

iNcontroL fighting!!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 25 2011 20:04 GMT
#3
You're the kind of guy that loves to spark up drama it kinda sucks that you have to repress that for the sake of people's notion of professionalism.

Do it for ESPORTS!
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
February 25 2011 20:04 GMT
#4
Don't see the big deal about the kelly thing, as that was done in jest and you guys are friends..And restreaming gsl wasn't that big a deal as you shut it off when told to.

But it seems people are pissed about the Huko incident of all things >.>, I'm just a neutral observer in this one cause I don't really know how it went down besides hearing the perspectives of yourself and Huko.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
February 25 2011 20:05 GMT
#5
Don't worry, everyone makes mistakes!
Hi
stiga
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
February 25 2011 20:06 GMT
#6
yayyyyyyy iNcontrolllll i have no idea what hapened because i havent lurked the forums in ahwile but i forgive youuuuuuuu
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19215 Posts
February 25 2011 20:06 GMT
#7
You should write her a letter of apology on some paper and mail it.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 20:33:39
February 25 2011 20:09 GMT
#8
EDIT: fixed
ModeratorGood content always wins.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 20:21:41
February 25 2011 20:09 GMT
#9
Sorry to see it bothering you so much Geoff. It's the Internet, and if there is a trendy thing to "hate," they're going to latch on to it and run with it because nothing feels better to nerds than to feel like they're doing "justice" behind their computer screens. It's really unfortunate, but it's best to ignore the hate machine. Even the Kelly hate machine has somewhat blown over for the time being. This is just a byproduct mainly due to Reddit's system (the core of all the disagreements lately). All the naysayers will be upvoted, while the supporters are downvoted, so it just seems like the world is against you. Taking legitimate opinions from a mob like that is foolish. This mob are the same people who think TL moderation is too harsh and believe that the forum interface here is "clutterred and unintuitive".

There is no denying restreaming GSL was a extremely poor decision (I woke up and checked the news and was like "lol that is bad PR") but there's no reason to linger over it. It wasn't too big a deal to begin with IMO and its just something people utilized to catalyze their established disagreements. Their were always people who disagreed with your personality for a long time (before NASL). It's just a convenient target that you're associated with NASL, but really underlying it all is predetermined whining.

It's obvious that there are people out there that already have their opinions formed about you, and trying to change those opinions are a vain effort - again it's the Internet. There are some people who get your "humor" and others who don't, and trying to win the hearts and minds of every eSports nerds out there is impossible. It was obvious when people started calling your apologies "sarcastic" that they've always been disagreeing with you, and it was just the appropriate time to publically lash out.

My rambling aside, my point is to take a point out of Tyler's book and just chill. It wasn't a big deal to begin with except for already established haters blowing it way out of proportions. I highly doubt that this will effect NASL's success, since these drama things always blow over (refer to SC2 NO LAN hate, buying GSL tickets hate, Kelly hate, etc). If people want to not support probably the biggest chance eSports has in the west due to some really minuscule political Internet drama, then they care a lot more about their entitlement rather than the passion of the game.

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elroy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States51 Posts
February 25 2011 20:11 GMT
#10
Keep up the good work Geoff!

I do find it funny that our culture is has shifted towards putting more stock in who said something rather than putting more stock in what was said. Keep being yourself and if that turns some people off, then too bad for them. I can't wait to see all the greatness that comes out of the NASL even if you can't seem to figure out that an individual league should not have rules about teams Just kidding I know you will figure a way to work it out.

His boy Elroy!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 25 2011 20:12 GMT
#11
was writing this ffrom my iphone and the format sucked so I got my fat ass up and went to a terminal in the hotel and wrote it. So the first 10 replies in this thread are seeing a broken iphone attempt at writing this

It is complete now.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
February 25 2011 20:14 GMT
#12
The restream was bad,
But I think you're a good guy.
I'm still your fan, man. (:
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
February 25 2011 20:18 GMT
#13
Personally I thought the mocking was funny. Restreaming GSL was obviously stupid but I'm sure it will blow over soon enough.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
February 25 2011 20:19 GMT
#14
Boo serious iNcontrol! Long live inappropriate sarcastic and awesome iNcontrol!

What's the point of growing ESPORTS if it loses it's heart and soul along the way .
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legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
February 25 2011 20:20 GMT
#15
It was fair backlash. You can't build a reputation by being big-mouthed and walking the line without getting burnt from time to time. But if this kind of strategy (or personality?) can make you a big name on the SC2 scene, i'm not sure it is going to help a new born gaming franchise...

But it was also pretty disgusting to see Huko making a fuzz of all this in other sites. What a petty guy.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Mr.Ch4rms
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada84 Posts
February 25 2011 20:22 GMT
#16
look, you are who you are and people like/dislike you for that.


For example take DJ Wheat, he is able to commentate professionally for big events, but OUTSIDE of that he still does alot of eSports related stuff, and doesnt have to stiffle his personality, curb his sense of humour or censor himself in any way.


just be yourself, and dont do this

But what it does mean is I will reduce my community exposure outside of the NASL.



because then youll be taking away alot of what this community expects and likes of you. we want to see you involved in eSports even more then you are now, because you will be this figure head.


incoherencey aside,

GL HF with NASL.
thats it stroke me clover
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 25 2011 20:24 GMT
#17
I'm glad that you're going to step up the professionalism to the level of your station. I'm sure you'll always be a little edgy since that's just who you are, but you did need to tone it down a bit. Very mature.
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
February 25 2011 20:25 GMT
#18
We all still love you, Geoff. Don't let a few poor decisions get the best of you. I'm always thrilled when Tuesday rolls along, because then I get to think to myself, "What the hell is iNcontroL gonna do today?!", and in the LOL way, not the OMG way.

While your public persona may have to change a bit to present the NASL in a more professional manner, I love being able to watch your stream or State of the Game, and laugh along with hundreds of other people at your antics.

Don't change too much, Geoff!
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
MFSlust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States4 Posts
February 25 2011 20:29 GMT
#19
Honestly I think it got blown out of proportion, but I may be biased because I dig you. I don't know how to say that without any sort of homo-eroticism attached... /shrug

Either way, I think that honestly the hate is amplified because it is riding behind the Kelly hate, which is also kind of unfortunate because I think that was blown out of proportion as well. Let's face it - there's a lot of nerds in the StarCraft community and nerds are characteristically defined by their passion towards something. StarCraft is something worth being very passionate about.

I, for one, hope you don't change too much because then I'll have a reason to be genuinely upset with the community I enjoy being a part of.

Stay gold, Ponyboy.
Never knows best
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
February 25 2011 20:31 GMT
#20
I will always love you big guy.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
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