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dr0M
Norway4 Posts
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
So now I think the NASL ought to introduce a buffer between a player's first transgression and any tapping into the $250 deposit. Each player has the option to publicly post a heartfelt apology and promise to act better. The NASL must accept this apology and trust this promise. Only after a second transgression does a player have to face real consequences. + Show Spoiler + Yes, I'm joking folks. This was a tribute to classic incontrol -- I had to take a jab. I know you can do your job (all of them) excellently Geoff. GL. Brotosses forever. | ||
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Vorlik
1522 Posts
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kidleader
Korea (South)233 Posts
GSL thing is just an error of judgement, no biggie. At the end of the day, I don't want ESPN, and I think that's true for a lot of eSports fans. There's nothing worse than the clinical, asinine sports TV in the mainstream. Keep it real  | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
Sad to see it come to this, props for actually taking the high road here and apologizing, completely with matbob though, dick move by Huko for doing what he did the way he did it, seems like the high road for him is a road less traveled. GL with NASL, hope your stream doesn't completely change because of this. | ||
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leonardus
59 Posts
Also, I was watching live the gsl moment and it was really funny, more fun than the original stream with tasteless and milkies, if that it;s illegal and can not be replayed than I am sad. | ||
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badDogma
United States106 Posts
This is the reality of SC2, it's driven by the internet. Instead of media moguls locked away in their ivory towers we have community people interacting with fans to make the best possible experience for everyone. Obviously there are some kinks to work out, but I do believe incontrol is a fast learner and he'll try his best to make this work. As for me, I can't wait to watch some nasl games, and I would hate to watch a nasl game only to hear him making snarky replies about haters or ragging on popular SC2 community people. edit: the reddit hate is a little senseless. They don't have the luxury of TL-style bannings and it's a large community designed so popular opinions will rise to the top. I'm sure if TL didn't have around the clock mods the forums would be filled with incontrol drama here too. It'll blow over in a few days, and there will be new stuff to talk about. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
I haven't always been cheering for incontrol the player however I will always cheer for you as a person in all of your endeavors and I wholeheartedly hope you and NASL will enjoy a lot of success in the future.Having that said, you're a guy with opinions who's never been afraid to speak his mind and that's bound to spark a lot of rage. People on the internet can be sensitive as hell and will take any excuse to lash out against someone they don't happen to like. I don't think this is cause for you to change at all. Just be the guy you've been over the last decade and things are going to work out great. Btw it's so fucking comforting knowing people like incontrol and gretorp are part of the decision making in a huuuge tournament like this. You just know there are going to be less fuck ups and problems when real pro's are in charge from the beginning. | ||
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everyday847
United States14 Posts
On February 26 2011 07:14 Liquid`Tyler wrote: So now I think the NASL ought to introduce a buffer between a player's first transgression and any tapping into the $250 deposit. Each player has the option to publicly post a heartfelt apology and promise to act better. The NASL must accept this apology and trust this promise. Only after a second transgression does a player have to face real consequences. This is a solid idea independent of anything iNcontroL did. While the accountability measures proposed do strike a nice balance, far less harsh than "if you use chat in game except to say gg you lose," having a buffer is simply more fair: in particular, since the intricacies of these rules--however easy it might be to summarize them as "just don't be a dick"--aren't going to be second nature to the participants at first, there are going to be some first time transgressions that were only barely intentional. | ||
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MapleFractal
Canada307 Posts
I personally think its refreshing to have a caster who ACTUALLY KNOWS THE GAME, all this ridiculous flaming and bullshit about TB and a simple mistake with a restream is just nonsense. To say you wont support the NASL because of some drama that was a simple miss-communication to start with and has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU WHAT SO EVER, is bad for the community as a whole. Being a the guy that says "Well ill just restream NASL now cause of iNc blahblahablah" just makes you a douche-bag, and if E-sports does not succeed in NA/EU you'll know you were a part of the reason. So just stop the hate and realize what a big deal this whole thing is. Geoff, I love all the content you release into the community and the impact that you have on TL and SC2 is very real. Evidence of this is everywhere lol look at all the people talking about you! Just remember the vocal minority will always be louder then the quiet majority. Your casting with Gretorp will get better I'm sure as you guys both get comfortable with one another. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DONT CHANGE ON SoTG!! Seriously having you be the "Bill Mayer" on that show is such a refreshing aspect of the podcast. I always look forward to them and even stay up to catch them live now. I could probably say that I look forward to the cast each week more then any TV show or Hockey game (well maybe not every hockey game....) You did ask for constructive criticism too! lol iNc buddy if your gonna be on TV do yourself up a bit man! lol some hair gel, and a jacket would have made you look like one sharp mofo. Look at your homeboys Tastosis. Those gentlemen always try to look awesome on air, I'm sure you and Andre can easily do that. Don't worry to much about haters man, your doing a lot of good for the community. EDIT: TROLOLOL nony you actually had me for a second LOL thanks man | ||
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orion27
United States44 Posts
I hope the NASL shows your true nature in your dealings with sc2. Hopefully it's positive since you, along with so many others, do so much for this community, above and beyond the average sc2 player. Good luck. | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
I'm sure this is mostly a case of vocal minority rather than something more sinister. | ||
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PaPoolee
Netherlands660 Posts
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Rokk
United States425 Posts
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Dubes
United States327 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On February 26 2011 07:28 Rokk wrote: I'm glad you're taking this very seriously, but I fear you may lose yourself in the process. I've loved listening to you. You're a hilarious guy. Don't lose that entirely to appease the very vocal minority who thrive on hate. To be honest I don't think he could even if he tried. Try to imagine an extremely serious unfunny incontrol. Can you? Makes my brain hurt. | ||
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Howl67
United States148 Posts
Not trying to be dramatic or something, but people seriously just need to lighten up. | ||
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Creep
United States229 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:53 Djagulingu wrote: GSL Restreaming was good, Kelly imitation was better. I don't know why people are going over Geoff for this. Stop this hatin. He's better than all of his haters combined. Make a room for the big dawg. Well, he did other things. One being asking for a restream of GSL and defending it with the fact he couldn't find the big GO LIVE button at the top of the GOM website. + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195486¤tpage=46#907 When he has said he does in fact have a GOM account and has used it before, he somehow didn't also see the big Standard Quality button next to the High Quality button, both being the same size and literally next to each other. + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195486¤tpage=52#1024 Which he apologized for in the same post he said he couldn't find the Go Live button. He didn't apologize for this in this blog thread though, so most people might not have seen it because they didn't want to walk through the broken glass flooring that was the other thread. + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195486¤tpage=46#907 The other being he stayed in Huko's restream for a good hour and banned Huko on TL for mostly personal reasons. + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195486¤tpage=46#910 Which he apologized for, not in this blog post but in this post. + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195486¤tpage=46#920 Or being condescending while being a mod, calling someone a "random gaming forum poster" instead of just temp banning for back talking a mod. Calling someone a "random gaming forum poster" on a website you mod kinda makes it looks like you feel superior to everyone that doesn't have mod status...right or not, this wasn't very professional. + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195486¤tpage=30#594 Which I don't think he apologized for, but I'm sure he is sorry. | ||
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Rayeth
United States883 Posts
On February 26 2011 07:14 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Yes, I'm joking folks. This was a tribute to classic incontrol -- I had to take a jab. I know you can do your job (all of them) excellently Geoff. GL. Brotosses forever. On February 15 2011 05:37 Liquid`Tyler (in a different blog post) wrote: BABY YOU'RE A FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIREWORK COME ON LET YOUR COOOOOOOOLORS BURST I think those two quotes pretty much sum up everything that needs to be said in this thread. | ||
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