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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
You should be angry, mafia is trying to take over your town! Gogo angrytown! | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
*flexes muscles* | ||
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littlechava
United States7216 Posts
On June 07 2010 18:46 DarthThienAn wrote: @littlechava: deep breaths, don't get too offended by stuff on the internet ^^. Yeah, I was drunk when I posted that...  | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On June 07 2010 18:46 DarthThienAn wrote: @BB: Hey man, was worried where you went. Welcome back :p. Did you do Oberlin CSL o.o? Meh, I guess the only person I know from that teams is Sunyveil heh. Yeah, joined midway through though so I didn't get to play last season, will be playing next season tho AFJ: Why the sudden pushing really really hard for voting for MooCow? I'm reading through your logic, and it seems alright, but in a day where it seems likely Deuce is going to get the axe, why would you start pushing really hard to lynch someone else? It makes no sense to me. I'm going to stick my vote on Deuce as a placeholder: like I said earlier, if he posts some content I have no problem changing it, but if he keeps trolling the KPop thread instead of posting here, well... | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On June 08 2010 01:46 BrownBear wrote: Yeah, joined midway through though so I didn't get to play last season, will be playing next season tho AFJ: Why the sudden pushing really really hard for voting for MooCow? I'm reading through your logic, and it seems alright, but in a day where it seems likely Deuce is going to get the axe, why would you start pushing really hard to lynch someone else? It makes no sense to me. I'm going to stick my vote on Deuce as a placeholder: like I said earlier, if he posts some content I have no problem changing it, but if he keeps trolling the KPop thread instead of posting here, well... I'm pushing really hard on MooCow because 1) I'm fairly convinced he's mafia and 2) I think it's unlikely that deuce is mafia and thus likely that we would be wasting a lynch. And he hasn't posted in the Kpop thread in awhile (20 hours) so he's probably not avoiding this thread for being-mafia-ey reasons. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
Misder: First game post imo (#184) saying that lightning is not a clue (a good observation, at the time). #270: clue analysis, three things (YellowInk, crate, MooCow) #649: returns from being MIA, voted for BB because he couldn't decide between me and YI. Defends himself against a crappy (crappy meaning it was a stretch) clue accusation. more clue stuff - a recap of Thegilaboy's clues and a half-miss on "BurnFiveJuly". A mistake, but understandable, considering AFJ's profile (sorry this is what made me think you had bull posting - didn't realize 'burn' was in his profile). #677: calls AFJ out for dodging. points out a few more clues. #779: leans toward Deuce. Disapproves of double lynch, and advises to keep in mind the voting schedule thing. Voting: BB, then Deuce. Thoughts: a lot of clue talk now that I look at it. Try your hand at some people analysis not too many posts and not too long either, although most are a decent 2-3 paragraphs. Not bad not bad. The only thing that makes me suspicious of him is how focused he's been on clues. An easy pass for mafia (in this game) to look like they are contributing when they aren't. So I'm relatively neutral toward him. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Yeah... generally Mafia isn't the best thing when drunk ^_^ ...Bill Murray. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
8. MooCow Plays the newbie card a lot, this much is true. He may actually be a legit newbie, but some of his questions are easily answered in the OP. Was hesitant about both our elected candidates, and repeatedly mentioned that mafia will almost certainly get someone in office. Does he still believe this, and if so who does he think is more likely to be scum between the two? You've warned us all to be weary of them, just wondering what your thoughts were on the matter still. Started putting clues together at the start of Day 2. Does a good job here in both making connections to various profiles, while at the same time acknowledging that we shouldn't jump to conclusions so soon. Also understands our need to get active posters in order to get reads off of that. I'm interested in his earlier looks at zeks and wondering if you've thought anymore about that at all? Sure he plays the newbie card, but hey this is a newbie game for the most part. My gut reaction right now is that he is pro-town. I'd like to hear more of his thoughts on suspecting our elects, and if he has anymore thoughts on zeks. 26. pyr0ma5ta In the election he opted not to vote for YI or zeks as they had clues pointing to them. He even went so far as to say: On June 04 2010 08:02 pyr0ma5ta wrote: Yellowink, not only will not vote for you as mayor at this point, at this point I am leaning towards lynching you first. Still feel this way pyr0? Later on accused me of making a stretch accusation with the whole Tiny the Giant thing, but considering the fact that I've never played nor looked into Dota ever, I had no idea of the character's existence. That being said, he promptly decided he would vote for me. So it goes though, everyone is certainly free to vote as they see fit. Began to argue against voting for Deuce, claiming that they are reasons some people stay off the radar. What interests me most though are he most recent posts, saying that we shouldn't be trusting our elects necessarily. I ask the same thing of you that I asked of MooCow, do you have any more specific thoughts on the matter. Besides just saying we should suspect them, at this point do you have anymore solid thoughts on the matter, or perhaps an individual you would like to focus on for analysis? Things like that could be very helpful for everyone, and I'd just like to know your opinion on the matter. 23. CompX Here is a super inactive poster, who started our game with the bold claim that: On June 03 2010 11:09 CompX wrote: guys, I think ElyAs can be a mafia His accusation was based on flamewheel dying from lightning, something that is a recurring theme is his games. Then suddenly poof, he's gone. Returns 600 some posts later to reiterate the fact that MooCow and Tyranos both have the same profile and could be linked to barth's death by their ability to defy the laws of physics. And he returns to Elyas by taking a look at his death. Makes the call of attributing the death to a silent killer, and primary suspects are then myself and zeks in his eyes. He knows a lot about the character in zeks' profile, and he seems to be a ninja of sorts. At this point in time I really would like to see CompX post more. I know he said he'll be inactive because of school, but a 600 post gap between he's thoughts is a bit much. I'm inclined not to trust him because of his very early call of accusing Elyas of being mafia, something that didn't hold any merit at all. That's what I've got for now. Probably should take care of a few RL responsibilities right now | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
The major problem I see with trying to lynch MooCow at this point is that we have like 8.5 hours left to vote. I'd rather lynch an inactive town-possible-mafia than lynch no one. There are currently 12 votes on Deuce (3 on Thegilaboy, 1 on MooCow). That's not even enough for him get lynched RIGHT NOW. We still need 2 more votes, and that's with me being mayor. | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
. I'm going to be analyzing some people today based off of crate's format (which I'm shamelessly stealing)AcrossFiveJulys Posts since the game began: 26 Votes: DTA for mayor and MooCow for lynch Notes: First substantial post pretty late in Day 1. Questioned the wisdom in voting for YI, sided with DTA. Cautious about voting. #599: Emphasizes that he doesn't like posting on Day 1, as indicated by a previous mafia game in which he was an assassin. #657: Puts some heat on thegilaboy for being pretty defensive about getting accused and linking clues to specific people to draw attention to someone else #728: "Do not put 100% trust in MTF" #735: responds to a bunch of posts against him, accepts the weak clue links. Ends by stating that he'll post more thoughts later on some people #786: Suspicious at MTF for warning about double hits and the fact that he claims he got hit. #787: Doesn't like going after deuce, since he's most likely townie #790: Still suspicious of MTF #793: More defense of himself #795: misunderstanding of MTF and disturbed that he didn't clarify whether he's a vet/medic block #798: More heat on MTF #802: analyses on crate, littlechava, and zeks. thinks littlechava is more likely to be mafia, while others are probably pro-town #808+9+11: puts 4 other inactives into the spotlight as alternatives to deuce. #821: throws some names out who posted less after day/night 1 #825-present: starts pushing hard for moocow, for overplaying newbie card. links one clue. Thoughts: Very inactive on day 1 and then tries to justify it, might be a mafia just skimping on some work for day 1. Also, being inactive on day 1 isn’t actually super dangerous since there are a good 5+ other people. 2nd series of posts attacks MTF, largely based on misunderstanding each other. Might be a mafia trying to get the town to be suspicious of him, or just a townie being very cautious and somewhat creative and intelligent. Leaning towards latter. Really against lynching deuce, which might indicate that they are both mafia and he’s trying to cover for him, which is another reason to lynch deuce today. His gunning for MooCow I think isn’t strong enough for a lynch tonight, since this IS a newbie game. Lots of people on TL don’t read OPs carefully (god damn even though they should), so I think its excusable right now. Overall, I’m pretty neutral about him. Could be a mafia coming out from under the rock after day 1 and putting heat on some other people to divert attention. Or just a very cautious townie who really wants to get a mafia on Day 2 rather than lynch inactives like deuce. Will continue to watch for him. [b]For:[b] DTA, crate, zeks Against: YellowInk, thegilaboy, MTF, littlechava, moocow | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
On June 08 2010 02:25 Thegilaboy wrote: 26. pyr0ma5ta In the election he opted not to vote for YI or zeks as they had clues pointing to them. He even went so far as to say: Still feel this way pyr0? Later on accused me of making a stretch accusation with the whole Tiny the Giant thing, but considering the fact that I've never played nor looked into Dota ever, I had no idea of the character's existence. That being said, he promptly decided he would vote for me. So it goes though, everyone is certainly free to vote as they see fit. Began to argue against voting for Deuce, claiming that they are reasons some people stay off the radar. What interests me most though are he most recent posts, saying that we shouldn't be trusting our elects necessarily. I ask the same thing of you that I asked of MooCow, do you have any more specific thoughts on the matter. Besides just saying we should suspect them, at this point do you have anymore solid thoughts on the matter, or perhaps an individual you would like to focus on for analysis? Things like that could be very helpful for everyone, and I'd just like to know your opinion on the matter. Since you directed this part of your post at me, I will respond. If you'd taken a look at my last couple of admittedly short posts, you'd know I am still indeed suspicious of YI. I have close to no opinion on zeks, and a positive vibe on DTA which I cannot back up. Are you even reading my posts? I am indeed voting for you because you were quick to randomly pick up tiny the stone giant which makes no sense to begin with, when a simple Google search would have told you where the reference came form. I feel justified in my accusation. I am not arguing against voting for Deuce so much as arguing against the concept of voting by post count. Deuce has failed monumentally, and as such is no help to either team. He's not staying off the radar so much as totally AFK. I view lynching him this round as a "we still don't know who's a baddie, so we'll just lynch someone who's not helping us anyway, rather than lynch someone who might be a useful townie at best, and a silent blue role at worst." As such, I don't mind lynching for Deuce, though I feel I have a stronger case for someone who might be rotten (namely you). However, if next round people want to lynch the next most inactive person, I'm going to disagree somewhat more vigorously. Anyway, next time, instead of asking me questions to things I've made clear about 8 times, just read my posts. I feel really awkward explaining myself over and over while not making any new points. | ||
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
About the lynch target debate for lynching incatives- pros: more inactives will be forced to post, late game we have more active posters cons: small chance of hitting mafia - more likely that they are green townies, buys time for the mafia to hit the more active players, for lynching suspected low post counts- pros: could hit a mafia, maybe make low posters contribute more, weed out the low posters and suspicious posters cons: inactives are easy votes for the mafia to sway, also easy for the mafia to hide amongst them. At this point I am not sure which choice to make... Did I miss anything? No wonder you still misinterpreted my posts again :| I don't think that it is worth bringing back up this argument: I know I'm right, you think you are, and it gains us nothing to continue arguing. | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
littlechava Posts since the game began: 26 Votes: DTA for mayor and deuce for lynch Notes: Some clue analysis to begin with on Day 1 New player, completely underestimated the activity of mafia Explains that he voted for Darth b/c suspicious of Yellow Says that emphasizing activity might be detrimental but later accepts it when it’s explained Agrees with YellowInk’s rule about analyzing 4 people every day Puts some more clue analysis out Would vote for zeks/thegilaboy if voting only on clues Says a blue role dying does not mean elected roles are suspicious Analyzes crate, hugoboss, laxer, and zyrre. crate and zyrre = good, while the other two are suspicious Critical of the MTF-conspiracy theory Thinks should vote for inactives, starting with deuce? Posts an angry post while drunk (lol) Thoughts: His posts are mostly all logical. Very heavy on the clue analysis, despite saying you shouldn’t vote solely off of them. Does some analyses of people based on posts, though not very deep. Just quick impressions, which are totally fine. Thinks should lynch inactives, which might be a mafia ploy (all the mafia could be reasonable active, so encouraging these lynches would benefit mafia). However, that’s not a very strong reason to be suspicious, since inactives SHOULD be lynched imo (actually a debate is going on right now lolol). So, nothing to really be alarmed about. Neutral yet again, although leaning pro-town. For: DTA, crate, zyrre Against: YellowInk, thegilaboy, zeks, hugoboss, laxercannon | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
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littlechava
United States7216 Posts
On June 08 2010 02:49 DCLXVI wrote: No wonder you still misinterpreted my posts again :| I don't think that it is worth bringing back up this argument: I know I'm right, you think you are, and it gains us nothing to continue arguing. Nah, I'm still right. All you've done is make a couple garbage posts calling me out, which I then defended. Then you keep bring it up again whenever possible, without refuting anything that I've said. @onihunter: I'm not against YellowInk or Thegilaboy at this point. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 08 2010 02:27 DarthThienAn wrote: @AFJ/whoever: The major problem I see with trying to lynch MooCow at this point is that we have like 8.5 hours left to vote. I'd rather lynch an inactive town-possible-mafia than lynch no one. There are currently 12 votes on Deuce (3 on Thegilaboy, 1 on MooCow). That's not even enough for him get lynched RIGHT NOW. We still need 2 more votes, and that's with me being mayor. Actually, 1 vote is enough to lynch someone so long as it was the first vote, no one has multiple votes, and no one has more than 1 vote on them. The rules here is target with the most votes hangs (tie goes to whoever was rallied up first). We don't need a majority. That being said, since everyone is (supposedly) eventually going to vote, this could easily be swung away from Deuce. I hope that others who are voting late see the logic of not allowing people to evade posting requirements. If we allow this, we'll just lose. Also remember that bare-minimum posting mafia still contribute to mafia KP even though they're basically doing nothing else in game. | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
On June 08 2010 03:07 littlechava wrote: Nah, I'm still right. All you've done is make a couple garbage posts calling me out, which I then defended. Then you keep bring it up again whenever possible, without refuting anything that I've said. @onihunter: I'm not against YellowInk or Thegilaboy at this point. I realize you're not really "against them" right now, so let me clarify. My "for" and "against" sections of my posts aren't extremely concrete, just what I gleaned from your posts as POTENTIAL feelings/connections. Small things that MIGHT play a role later, so I'm not saying you're really "against" them, per se. Next analysis: zyrre Posts since the game began: 12 Votes: YellowInk for mayor and deuce for lynch Notes: First real post used to support YellowInk b/c of his “aggressive style” Brings up an interesting point about clues—maybe far fetched clues = better Says that he doesn’t like spamming posts, suspicious of Zeks and DCL, but notes that zeks pointed clues at DCL More clue analysis Again says that he’ll try to post more, but lots of discussion happening while he’s asleep (fine since he’s in Sweden lol) Not suspicious of thegilaboy at all Can’t profile Tyranos b/c he doesn’t post much. Says a little about MooCow Thoughts: Not posting enough to do substantial analysis, plus some of his posts don’t really have much content. So just post more, since it’s hard for us to read you without more information. If you really are pro-town, this is for your benefit, since you want people to read you as that. So not really any feelings right now from me. New player? For: YellowInk, thegilaboy Against: Zeks, DCLXVI, Misder | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 08 2010 03:09 YellowInk wrote: Actually, 1 vote is enough to lynch someone so long as it was the first vote, no one has multiple votes, and no one has more than 1 vote on them. The rules here is target with the most votes hangs (tie goes to whoever was rallied up first). We don't need a majority. That being said, since everyone is (supposedly) eventually going to vote, this could easily be swung away from Deuce. I hope that others who are voting late see the logic of not allowing people to evade posting requirements. If we allow this, we'll just lose. Also remember that bare-minimum posting mafia still contribute to mafia KP even though they're basically doing nothing else in game. oh wow. flamewheel can you confirm? Just realized that I was assuming this game was majority lynch. There's only this "Essentially, you may not use your non-majority-decided death as a bargaining chip" in the OP that indicates it toward any way (unless I missed something). That being said, should we or should we not switch? | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On June 08 2010 03:14 DarthThienAn wrote: oh wow. flamewheel can you confirm? Just realized that I was assuming this game was majority lynch. There's only this "Essentially, you may not use your non-majority-decided death as a bargaining chip" in the OP that indicates it toward any way (unless I missed something). That being said, should we or should we not switch? This game is not run on a majority system. Whoever has the most votes at the end of the voting cycle will be lynched. It doesn't matter if one person has every single vote ten minutes before election ends if everybody switches before the deadline. That is the only thing that matters, so yes, hypothetically if only one person voted whoever he or she voted for would be lynched. | ||
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