EPTonihunter (said he was catching up on reading last night but didn't post anything afterwards)
moocow
bumatlarge
zeks
brownbear
DarthThienAn (but had 1 large post summarizing his thoughts and he's not campaigning anymore so fine with me)
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
onihunter (said he was catching up on reading last night but didn't post anything afterwards) moocow bumatlarge zeks brownbear DarthThienAn (but had 1 large post summarizing his thoughts and he's not campaigning anymore so fine with me) | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 07 2010 23:29 zeks wrote: Are we going to keep lynching inactives until there are no more? If deuce flips green we should really rethink that...we only have so many lynches and so much time On June 07 2010 23:37 pyr0ma5ta wrote: My point exactly. Incidentally, can someone enlighten me as to why we all gave our elected blues free passes? I'm still not convinced. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127781¤tpage=28#551 | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
However I don't agree on doing this all the way to night X | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
On June 07 2010 23:45 YellowInk wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127781¤tpage=28#551 I recognize this point. I've already stated that I don't have a major problem with lynching Deuce this round. And yeah, don't bother using a pardon on him if it gets to that. But my point about why our blues get free passes, I'd like to ask the town at large. Why does everyone seem to trust YellowInk and Darth implicitly? | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
the OP or figured out himself: On June 03 2010 05:17 MooCow wrote: How does an excel sheet help ? Asking as a noob/first timer of the game. On June 03 2010 12:57 MooCow wrote: Can a mafia member be voted in as mayor? During the voting can the public vote to kill the mayor? On June 03 2010 13:06 MooCow wrote: I see, this is my first time playing, so it would be really important to get a DT or someone to check the potential mayor candidates before we vote them in right? If the DT's find anything can it be told to the public or is it private information? Looking at everything so far Zeks seems like a potential mafia and there's too little info for Yellowink. On June 03 2010 13:29 MooCow wrote: So I assume any info the DT's find are told to everyone in this thread about clues etc? In like every other post he mentions or leverages the fact that he's new at the game. e.g, in addition to above posts, On June 03 2010 09:53 MooCow wrote: Probably more interesting to play with people that are participating in the game rather than kill the people that are participating. E: Never played the game either, first time trying. On June 03 2010 13:58 MooCow wrote: Damn I agree with Oni again, Yellowink seems to be really pushing hard for the mayor position which is fair and understandable but for me it seems a bit suspicious. I believe the point of the game is to persuade and con people into believing whatever you say and influence it in your favor from what I see so far. On June 03 2010 23:01 MooCow wrote: Thanks to everyone posting additional information about the game for the newer people. It'd be great if you added more inputs Crate it was easy to understand and read. We still have time before we all vote for the mayor right? With 30 people here there's still a bunch of people still to post so would we be looking those people as potential first day lynch? He also often overcompensates and makes sure that he mentions that he could be mafia so people wouldn't think he's leaving that out: On June 03 2010 12:11 MooCow wrote: Whoa great find imo. The Naruto and knives thing, they do indeed throw knives around a lot on that anime. Can we defend ourselves from accusations? On the disturbed thing, after reading through the paragraph the word disturbed just seemed like a very common word to be used there, but fair play even after reading through that i'd be suspicious of me! Seriously that's just the tip of the iceberg, almost all of his posts are overcompensating or being a "newb townie". He appeared to get very worried about the yellowink/darth election and stated FOUR times that it seems possible for mafia to be able to organize and get one of their six elected. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Please other people look through his post history and tell me if you get the same vibe. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 08 2010 00:07 pyr0ma5ta wrote: I recognize this point. I've already stated that I don't have a major problem with lynching Deuce this round. And yeah, don't bother using a pardon on him if it gets to that. But my point about why our blues get free passes, I'd like to ask the town at large. Why does everyone seem to trust YellowInk and Darth implicitly? I assure you, not everyone trusts either Darth or myself implicitly. People either agree with our logic or they don't. If they do, they follow our plans. If not, they voice their dissent and perhaps the plan is revised. No one has provided a better argument than I have against Deuce, so that is where the town is leaning. I don't expect you to vote for him because 'you don't have a major problem with it'. You should make your vote count. Keep in mind that mafia will attempt to instill a sort of 'groupthink' attitude so that they can sway a large number of people with their small numbers. The difference between my or DTA calling on the town vs mafia covertly trying to sway the town is that a number of people have placed their faith in us. If you disagree with anything I say, by all means, counter the argument. Even if you believe I'm town 100%, that doesn't mean you believe I'm perfect.  | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
Thus, Deuce remains the best target until we have a scum target that is more than merely moderately suspicious. | ||
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MooCow
1434 Posts
AFJ+ Show Spoiler + On June 08 2010 00:11 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Guys, I couldn't resist doing an analysis on MooCow. I just looked through his post history and I'm getting a very strong read that he's mafia. He's playing a "newbie townie" role. And way overplaying it. Check out how many of his posts are asking ridiculous questions that he could have easily deduced from the OP or figured out himself: On June 03 2010 05:17 MooCow wrote: How does an excel sheet help ? Asking as a noob/first timer of the game. On June 03 2010 12:57 MooCow wrote: Can a mafia member be voted in as mayor? During the voting can the public vote to kill the mayor? On June 03 2010 13:06 MooCow wrote: I see, this is my first time playing, so it would be really important to get a DT or someone to check the potential mayor candidates before we vote them in right? If the DT's find anything can it be told to the public or is it private information? Looking at everything so far Zeks seems like a potential mafia and there's too little info for Yellowink. On June 03 2010 13:29 MooCow wrote: So I assume any info the DT's find are told to everyone in this thread about clues etc? In like every other post he mentions or leverages the fact that he's new at the game. e.g, in addition to above posts, On June 03 2010 09:53 MooCow wrote: Probably more interesting to play with people that are participating in the game rather than kill the people that are participating. E: Never played the game either, first time trying. On June 03 2010 13:58 MooCow wrote: Damn I agree with Oni again, Yellowink seems to be really pushing hard for the mayor position which is fair and understandable but for me it seems a bit suspicious. I believe the point of the game is to persuade and con people into believing whatever you say and influence it in your favor from what I see so far. On June 03 2010 23:01 MooCow wrote: Thanks to everyone posting additional information about the game for the newer people. It'd be great if you added more inputs Crate it was easy to understand and read. We still have time before we all vote for the mayor right? With 30 people here there's still a bunch of people still to post so would we be looking those people as potential first day lynch? He also often overcompensates and makes sure that he mentions that he could be mafia so people wouldn't think he's leaving that out: On June 03 2010 12:11 MooCow wrote: Whoa great find imo. The Naruto and knives thing, they do indeed throw knives around a lot on that anime. Can we defend ourselves from accusations? On the disturbed thing, after reading through the paragraph the word disturbed just seemed like a very common word to be used there, but fair play even after reading through that i'd be suspicious of me! Seriously that's just the tip of the iceberg, almost all of his posts are overcompensating or being a "newb townie". He appeared to get very worried about the yellowink/darth election and stated FOUR times that it seems possible for mafia to be able to organize and get one of their six elected. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Please other people look through his post history and tell me if you get the same vibe. Yes i'm a noob to the game of mafia. Some of the stuff I asked could of been figured out from reading the OP and some couldn't, which is my bad for not going through the OP carefully. I surely don't overcompensate imo. I just post whatever I think but as crate said earlier I think I don't do much convincing in my posts so they are just general thoughts of the progress of the game. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Nope, that's not true. Even if you read crate analysis of me it says I still continue to be wary of both YI and Darth. Even in one of my more recent posts I say why I am and what not so I don't see how you managed to get that. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On June 08 2010 00:26 MooCow wrote: Yes i'm a noob to the game of mafia. Some of the stuff I asked could of been figured out from reading the OP and some couldn't, which is my bad for not going through the OP carefully. Like I said it's as if you were going out of your way to ask questions to make yourself look newbie. That's what looks suspicious. I surely don't overcompensate imo. I just post whatever I think but as crate said earlier I think I don't do much convincing in my posts so they are just general thoughts of the progress of the game. I'm sure you surely don't overcompensate in your opinion too. You better start doing some convincing rather than posting contentless garbage like the way you are defending yourself right now if you don't want to look suspicious. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Nope, that's not true. Even if you read crate analysis of me it says I still continue to be wary of both YI and Darth. Even in one of my more recent posts I say why I am and what not so I don't see how you managed to get that. fine, your complaining was significantly reduced but not completely gone. This isn't what made me think you are mafia anyway. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On June 08 2010 00:07 pyr0ma5ta wrote: I recognize this point. I've already stated that I don't have a major problem with lynching Deuce this round. And yeah, don't bother using a pardon on him if it gets to that. But my point about why our blues get free passes, I'd like to ask the town at large. Why does everyone seem to trust YellowInk and Darth implicitly? Their posting has implied pro-town behaviour so far, but if things go downhill I assure you they will be the first on the chopping block. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On June 08 2010 00:26 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: YellowInk, did you read MooCow's post history carefully? I hardly think so since you posted only 6 minutes after you could have read my post. I'd appreciate it if you read his history and then tell me what you think in more detail. I keep a summary of post histories and opinions each player has of others in an excel spreadsheet. It took me just a couple seconds to trace what you were saying. I don't disagree with most of your analysis, but it still leaves Deuce as a much better target. | ||
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Zyrre
Sweden291 Posts
But I have to agree with YI's logic once again. Gambling on MooCow at this point could leave us at a worse position later. If we were zerg in a starcraft game, going for MooCow is like rushing. I don't like rushing. Let's build some drones instead. | ||
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MooCow
1434 Posts
AFJ + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2010 00:36 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: On June 08 2010 00:26 MooCow wrote: Yes i'm a noob to the game of mafia. Some of the stuff I asked could of been figured out from reading the OP and some couldn't, which is my bad for not going through the OP carefully. Like I said it's as if you were going out of your way to ask questions to make yourself look newbie. That's what looks suspicious. I surely don't overcompensate imo. I just post whatever I think but as crate said earlier I think I don't do much convincing in my posts so they are just general thoughts of the progress of the game. I'm sure you surely don't overcompensate in your opinion too. You better start doing some convincing rather than posting contentless garbage like the way you are defending yourself right now if you don't want to look suspicious. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Nope, that's not true. Even if you read crate analysis of me it says I still continue to be wary of both YI and Darth. Even in one of my more recent posts I say why I am and what not so I don't see how you managed to get that. fine, your complaining was significantly reduced but not completely gone. This isn't what made me think you are mafia anyway. Wow you're an aggressive poster in general. I'm posting content less garbage because i'm trying to defend myself. The only accusation from you in your post is that i'm acting too much like a newbie town role and overplaying that role and the suspicions of YI and Darth which in your own words you were wrong. I believe I answered all of your accusations of me for the most part in my first post. He also often overcompensates and makes sure that he mentions that he could be mafia so people wouldn't think he's leaving that out I'm sure that's only one post where I do that it was me asking if we should defend ourselves from accusations. For the whole of the game i've been pro town and never mention I could be mafia. And the post you were referring to was a situation like this right now. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
AFJ's analysis on MooCow is pretty good I'd say...especially about the newbie card thing. I mean he's got 900~ posts surely he should know how to read an OP. And thanks to that we're seeing some abnormal behaviour on MooCow...personally I think he's starting to slip up a little now. Looking towards end game: I liked LD's analysis on the 4 types of players: 1. Active town 2. Active mafia 3. Inactive town 4. Inactive mafia (what is meant by active is the amount of posting) Obviously the biggest threat is the second group but that is also the hardest one to figure out. I think its safe to assume that mafia has a mix of active and inactive to make it harder for the town. Also, I would like to add that most of us have suggested to rolecheck the active players first - and I agree...the DTs should consider doing that again unless they really feel strongly about certain players/clues. Currently all the active posters are pretty much aligned - I don't see much strong finger pointing between the active people..maybe suggesting a clue here or there. So far everyones been targeting / analyzing the semi-active and inactive posters. Don't forget about all the active people; it's going to take more time to analyze them but the more posts someone makes the more likely he is to slip up. Note that the mafia are more aware of what they post than town - they have to be more cautious/defensive in their posting because of the threat of 1. Vigi 2. DT check 3. Lynch Whereas townies we typically have nothing to hide except the fact that most of us don't really want to get lynched. The more active we are creates a fog so that mafia are less likely to hit our blues. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
Here are some quick thoughts two posters that jumped to mind, I'll be switching over to a different analysis format later though. Deuce: seems like an obvious choice for a lynch simply because of his terrible posting and complete inactivity. He either doesn't care about the game at all or he is really trying to hide something. CompX: Where is he? As was pointed out earlier a couple times, his only real posts here are saying that Elyas might be mafia, followed promptly with Elyas getting killed off. I'll do the same thing others have and just use a random number generator to select 3-4 individuals and just focus on them from now on, as trying to watch everyone can be a bit overwhelming! | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
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