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On May 27 2010 18:30 RandomAbuse wrote:This ^^
I just looked it up in wiki and its true... damn... What's the reasoning behind this? Why is the law so hardcore down there?
Anyway if OP or anyone else are interested in official info about legality of cannabis, heres the wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_country seems to be up to date.
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It's great to be dutch. I don't get why alcohol and tabacco is legal and weed isn't pretty much everywhere.
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On May 27 2010 16:43 Roxen000 wrote: Smoking anything is not good for your lungs. Marijuana does no harm to your lungs.
Wat? Marijuana does harm your lungs slightly aswell since you're smoking something, Mary Jane heats up to some huge numbers when smoked which can injure your lungs.
Edit: Which is why you should bake it! :D
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On May 27 2010 18:50 Catch]22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 16:43 Roxen000 wrote: Smoking anything is not good for your lungs. Marijuana does no harm to your lungs. Wat? Marijuana does harm your lungs slightly aswell since you're smoking something, Mary Jane heats up to some huge numbers when smoked which can injure your lungs. Edit: Which is why you should bake it! :D
Smoking ANYTHING hurts you're lungs, its not the actual drug in Weed that gets the lungs its the process.
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Hurrah for Netherlands. As long as we keep the christians out of parliament, it is pretty much allowed here, for small amounts (< 20 grams or smt)
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IMO the damage done to lungs from smoking is slightly overrated, they do make them all black eventually but as long as you dont smoke a pack+ per day (im talking about cigarettes here) i doubt you are really that much in a risk of destroying your lungs. Weed is even less harmful as far as "hobbies" go because i'd imagine you smoke far lesser amounts of it to feel satisfied... Or am i wrong here? I don't practice weed myself so i very well could be.
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more or less the same as bulgaria here, get caught with even a gram, you are going downtown, getting a criminal charge, people have gotten jail time for a few grams. Does anyone really think you should take away someones freedom, lock him up with real criminals, for something that doesn't hurt anyone? And when did jail become a solution to every "crime" , I mean isn't the point of prison so we have a place where we can put the people harmful to others and separate them from society, how does locking up someone for 3 grams protect society ? No matter what your stance on drugs is, I cant imagine anyone being pro jail for anything except heavy dealing.
But then again, getting shitfaced every morning with a bottle of whiskey is perfectly legal, its a cultural thing.
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In South Africa, the use of marijuana is not allowed in any form.
Noone may legally possess it,sell it or use is. It is not even allowed for medical purposes and if cause with any amout, you will be heavily fined or even serve time in jail.
The fine and prison time wil depend on the amout you are caught with..
So its safe to say that there is a no tolerance approach to weed.
Some companies even fo frequant drug tests just to see if empoyees do weed.
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On May 27 2010 18:49 Nyovne wrote: It's great to be dutch. I don't get why alcohol and tabacco is legal and weed isn't pretty much everywhere.
marijuana and other drugs are only illegal so that the price stays artificially high. in this way the CIA and other cartels maximize their profits. there is also the ability to ostracize any nation who has a drug trade. for instance, columbia and other s american nations' cocaine operations offered convenient excuses for the US economic hit-men to enter the country in the 80s under the guise of "cleaning up the place" when in fact they just wanted to control the nation's resources, markets, and take the drugs for themselves to sell in the US.
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In Massachusetts a new Marijuana law was introduced last year that decriminalizes possession of marijuana for under an ounce (28 grams). You get slapped with a 100 dollar fine and it doesn't go on your record. The law is a complete joke and the hilarious part about it is they failed to write in the law any way for police to actually collect the money from the tickets!
I currently have 4..5...6? I dunno I lost track of these ridiculous 100 dollar fines...when I get caught with marijuana I say to the cops face that he is wasting tax payer dollars and I know that there is nothing he can do to make me pay the fine. In some areas of Massachusetts the police don't even bother ticketing because they know it's futile. In Quincy, MA I got caught and got the sergeant so angry he started yelling at me the top of his lungs..yeah...never got a ticket there.
ONE of my tickets I got I have to pay because the police found a way to get around the vague language of the new law. What they do is bring u to small claims court and sue u for the 100 dollars that you owe in the ticket...what's insane is that it costs like 30 dollars to file a small claims...PLUS however much it costs to have an officer in court that day...it definitely costs more than 100 tax payer dollars to collect that 100 dollar ticket. its nuts...oh and it's small claims so the absolute worst thing that can happen if I don't show up is I just have to pay the 100 dollars...and thats exactly what happened...I didn't show up and I just ended up having to pay the 100 bucks...if I showed up I would have lost a day of work and had to pay the 100 bucks anyways....the marijuana law in ma is silly
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On May 27 2010 19:12 omninmo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 18:49 Nyovne wrote: It's great to be dutch. I don't get why alcohol and tabacco is legal and weed isn't pretty much everywhere. marijuana and other drugs are only illegal so that the price stays artificially high. in this way the CIA and other cartels maximize their profits.
Pfft, don't be silly! The CIA would never deal with marijuana!
Weed is bulky and hard to smuggle and the profit margins are too low per kilo. Heroin and crack cocaine are the CIA's cash commodities of choice. (See the books by Alfred McCoy and Gary Webb for details). Keeping cannabis banned is just their way of clamping down on the competition.
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wow, going to jail for the possession of weed, wtf Oo
Here in Germany we have the Betäubungsmittelgesetz BtMG. In general, if you are a dealer you will be punished much harder than if you are just owning it. As far as I know, if you get caught with <5g police will take it from you and some state attorney will send you a letter that the crime you committed is not that big of a deal so they wont get to court. My roommate just got such a letter, there it was like "And remember, using drugs is bad and if you get caught again you will probably go to jail" bla bla If you have more than 5g you are fucked (I dont think you have to go to jail immediately, you will have to pay some fine ) because as an convicted felon you get an entry in your criminal record. Good luck getting a job then t.t
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- First offence: On summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding €381, or on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding €635.
- Second offence: On summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding €508, or on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding €1,269.
- Third or subsequent offence: On summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding €1,269 or, at the discretion of the court, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding twelve months, or to both the fine and the imprisonment, or on conviction on indictment, to a fine of such amount as the court considers appropriate or, at the discretion of the court, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years, or to both the fine and the imprisonment.
Often times though it`s simply overlooked by police.
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On May 27 2010 19:27 Aim Here wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 27 2010 19:12 omninmo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 18:49 Nyovne wrote: It's great to be dutch. I don't get why alcohol and tabacco is legal and weed isn't pretty much everywhere. marijuana and other drugs are only illegal so that the price stays artificially high. in this way the CIA and other cartels maximize their profits. Pfft, don't be silly! The CIA would never deal with marijuana! Weed is bulky and hard to smuggle and the profit margins are too low per kilo. Heroin and crack cocaine are the CIA's cash commodities of choice. (See the books by Alfred McCoy and Gary Webb for details). Keeping cannabis banned is just their way of clamping down on the competition.
touché
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in Brazil if you get caught with few grams guards will let you go, but corrupted cops may want some money...
they got me once and destroyed the small amount I had with me and then let me go, but the police is not so corrupted in my city.
as for some large amount you can be setenced to make community jobs or even go to jail...
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Everyone should watch the southpark episode called "Medicinal Fried Chicken", it's season 14 episode 03. Everyone is smokin weed so why just not Legalize it!
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On May 27 2010 16:34 blue_arrow wrote: In certain areas of BC Canada, cops grow their own weed all the time lol pretty much. I haven't been caught with it, but unless you get an asshole cop they usually just take it away(and probably smoke it themselves later...) as long as you don't have a whole crap load of previous offenses.
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Legalizing weed reminds me of the drug used to placate all the Deltas in A Brave New World Just another way to keep the poor man down! *pumps fist*
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Well if you get caught with weed here, you'll get much more jail time as compared if you got some local products like shabu.
I think our law here about weed or any illegal drug is pretty tight..though most of the time people can just get away with it by bribing the police or by paying bail out. Sometimes the NBI would step in and raid a drug house.
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really depends on the state you get caught in. in the more criminalized states they just take it and let you go (cuz they got other things to worry about) and in my state you get a letter/invitation to visit a drug education class for 1 or 2 hours. dunno about the growing and dealing part, the people that i know doing it haven't been caught so far.
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