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SoManyDeadLings
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada255 Posts
May 27 2010 12:24 GMT
#41
Well, just putting this out there.

If it wasn't for weed, I wouldn't have tried something other things. Albeit it was only very small amounts and on 2 occasions only, but the point is that I wouldn't have tried anything if it wasn't for weed.
wsrgry
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
May 27 2010 12:44 GMT
#42
The gateway drug theory has very little evidence in its favour.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
May 27 2010 12:54 GMT
#43
In Portugal it's legal to have with you:

25 grams of weed
5 grams of hashish / cannabis extracts

I've been caught several times with weed / hash and nothing happened really (except one time where the cops were assholes)... I'm seeing less and less use of weed among teenagers in comparison to the late 90's. Seriously, it's not about it being illegal or not, it's about propaganda at schools and most importantly GOOD PARENTING. My parents know I've been smoking marijuana for years and they don't disaprove. I don't take hard drugs. Gateway drug theory is bullshit... many of my friends smoke pot and they aren't crackhead junkies. Police is busting coke / heroin dealers and they don't care about some 18 year olds smoking some joints after school. Guess what? It works.
zvz is imba
peanutter
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia165 Posts
May 27 2010 13:33 GMT
#44
With regards to "Marijuana as a gateway drug" for countries in which it is illegal, this can be seen as true in some way. Drug dealers provide an variety of illegal drugs which is not limited by marijuana. In cases where marijuana becomes legal, you can obtain it without having to buy from those dealers. This can be seen as the reason why other drug use decreases when it becomes decriminalized so umm... I guess that just means, marijuana is a gateway drug only where marijuana is illegal.
lowbright
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
308 Posts
May 27 2010 14:15 GMT
#45
the argument that using marijuana leads to the use of harder drugs doesn't make any sense.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #49
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 14:37:12
May 27 2010 14:34 GMT
#46
On May 27 2010 18:49 Nyovne wrote:
It's great to be dutch. I don't get why alcohol and tabacco is legal and weed isn't pretty much everywhere.

it's also great to live next to the netherlands :D .. ah i love the netherlands so much.


this thread makes me wanna drive to holland NOW, LOOOL. guess i'll go tomorrow.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
May 27 2010 15:36 GMT
#47
I don't even know anymore. It seems to change so much (or there is talk about change) that I don't even know what happens to you if you get caught.
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Shrewmy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia199 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 17:21:21
May 27 2010 17:10 GMT
#48
On May 27 2010 16:43 Roxen000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 16:41 love1another wrote:
Gaizzzzzz weed is bad! They're like cigarettes in that smoking them puts tar in your lungs! Then 10/20 years later you're like 'aww damn, now my lungs suck.' Imagine all the olympic athletes we lose every year to this scourge!


Smoking anything is not good for your lungs. Marijuana does no harm to your lungs.


This is just me being pedantic, just forewarning.

The actual contents of Marijuana does not harm your lungs, there have been studies that excessively heavy users can have some issues with regards to their behaviour/psyche, but I'm talking about something in the order of an ounce (I could never take that much) or more a day.

The way you smoke it also depends on whether or not it damages your lungs, there's quite a harmful rumor that 'holding the smoke in' helps you get more high, when in fact almost instantly the THC has already made it into your blood via your lungs, and all you're doing is holding in the smoke.

This smoke can cause pretty awful damage if you keep on doing it over a long period of time. It's by no means nowhere near as bad as cigarettes or alcohol, but it's not harmless.

The extra 'high' that people often talk about when they hold the smoke in is actually the result of simply holding their breath, and perhaps a little bit of the placebo effect.

But anyway, legalise it, I find it pretty shocking that people can do far worse crimes in the USA, but dealing Marijuana is considered more serious than sexual assault in some cases. Heck, even treating drug use as just a health problem and not a criminal problem would free up so many of the US' jails to hold actual criminals.

Nothing is without it's risks, but as people I think we should have a right to choose what we can put into our bodies, this coffee I'm drinking is probably killing my short term memory (caffiene has been linked to effecting short-term memory in a recent study), but I'm still drinking it, because it's my goddamn choice.

I trust the government to keep the roads paved (hilariously enough Western Australia has profoundly awful roads compared to other countries, such as Germany), my water clean and provide me with other basic menial services, but I don't trust them to tell me how to live in every way imaginable.

On May 27 2010 21:44 Piy wrote:
The gateway drug theory has very little evidence in its favour.

Do people still use that argument? That stuff is so 90's.


On May 27 2010 19:02 Skvid wrote:
IMO the damage done to lungs from smoking is slightly overrated, they do make them all black eventually but as long as you dont smoke a pack+ per day (im talking about cigarettes here) i doubt you are really that much in a risk of destroying your lungs.

Uh, sorry, wrong.

Smoke contains carcinogens in it, and I mean any type of smoke from organic matter (like Tobacco), it damages the alveoli of your lungs, causing them to collapse, and can result in emphysema (basically turns your lungs into swiss cheese).

Case in point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_tobacco_smoking#Chemical_carcinogens

All it takes is a few cells to take some genetic damage as well as the body to screw up when removing said cells, and you've got uncontrolled cell division and the beginnings of lung cancer.

Even just a few cigarettes a day can sky-rocket your chances of lung cancer. You don't have to smoke a pack a day to suffer any damage, which is why second hand smoke is a serious issue.

The link between smoking and cancer, among other things such as increased blood pressure, strokes, etc. has been proven, there's no argument about it, it's as air-tight as gravity and evolution (can of worms opened up).
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 18:16:40
May 27 2010 18:08 GMT
#49
shrewmy:
only small amounts of THC get absorbed by the lungs, so holding the smoke in does sound logical.

do you have any sources for your claims?


thought experiment: if you'd exhale the smoke and inhale it again, more THC would be absorbed. why wouldn't more THC be absorbed by holding the smoke in?


Do people still use that argument? That stuff is so 90's.

*cough* german government *cough* ... they paid someone to make a study that came up with these results and even though every other study says otherwise they still throw this shit at us
k20a
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada412 Posts
May 27 2010 18:14 GMT
#50
cops here just tell you to go do it somewhere else, usually letting you keep your stuff as long as it's not a huge amount and if you're not a dick to them
"It's like that one time Luke Skywalker threw the ring in to Mordor to kill Hitler, or something" - Tasteless
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
May 27 2010 18:58 GMT
#51
Shrewmy, secondhand smoke is just a myth. Tests have proven that secondhand smoke does not cause cancer. Even one study that said right on it "Don't believe the others! Secondhand smoke kills!" says right on the second page that the tests came back inconclusive, and that there are no correlations between secondhand smoke and any lung problems.
HitEmUp
AraqirG
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 19:28:42
May 27 2010 19:25 GMT
#52
Here is Massachusetts USA, state law was recently changed to be a max of a $100 fine. Additionally, the law is so poorly written it is almost impossible to enforce.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/01/03/police_balk_at_ticketing_marijuana_offenders/

On May 28 2010 03:58 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Shrewmy, secondhand smoke is just a myth. Tests have proven that secondhand smoke does not cause cancer. Even one study that said right on it "Don't believe the others! Secondhand smoke kills!" says right on the second page that the tests came back inconclusive, and that there are no correlations between secondhand smoke and any lung problems.


I haven't done much research but wikipedia (and the many studies it cites) disagree:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_hand_smoke
AraqirG
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 19:28:27
May 27 2010 19:27 GMT
#53
double post, please delete.
omg.deus
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Korea (South)150 Posts
May 27 2010 20:04 GMT
#54
in Montreal my friends and I were smoking a joint on the street and a cop car pulled up and told us to "take it somewhere else"...very chill cops...we respected their wishes and was more discrete about it
YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
May 27 2010 22:45 GMT
#55
On May 27 2010 20:47 ghen wrote:
Legalizing weed reminds me of the drug used to placate all the Deltas in A Brave New World Just another way to keep the poor man down! *pumps fist*

Those deltas seem so strange... but at least they're better than those epsillons
ted cruz is the zodiac killer
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
May 27 2010 23:31 GMT
#56
On May 28 2010 04:25 AraqirG wrote:
Here is Massachusetts USA, state law was recently changed to be a max of a $100 fine. Additionally, the law is so poorly written it is almost impossible to enforce.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/01/03/police_balk_at_ticketing_marijuana_offenders/

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 03:58 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Shrewmy, secondhand smoke is just a myth. Tests have proven that secondhand smoke does not cause cancer. Even one study that said right on it "Don't believe the others! Secondhand smoke kills!" says right on the second page that the tests came back inconclusive, and that there are no correlations between secondhand smoke and any lung problems.


I haven't done much research but wikipedia (and the many studies it cites) disagree:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_hand_smoke


Don't state things without doing the research. Wikipedia is biased and quite wrong, those studies cited in that very article actually contradict what their trying to prove if you read them.
HitEmUp
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