I go guardians in my D+ level games all the time vs. Protoss if it turns into a long macro game. Then the only way most people fight it off is with storms, so then I push with mass cracklings with defilers after lots of storms used. People rarely have reavers for that long at D and it hits before mass archon with reaver support tech transition.

3FFA

United States3931 Posts

April 12 2010 00:14 GMT

#24

Wow, people didn't know how to use scouts before? Thats sad. I was taught by my bro who did the exact same thing ur doing. He can beat me and I never use scouts versus him just to try to prove that scouts suck. I just make 1 corsair and scout where his stargates are and then push into wtf base he has/ doom drops him(I love proxying robotics facilities). On b.net I use scouts every chance I get.

3FFA

United States3931 Posts

April 12 2010 00:16 GMT

#25

On April 11 2010 11:39 Megalisk wrote:
I have never played a mission of the SC campaign

You should.

Severedevil

United States4822 Posts

April 12 2010 00:52 GMT

#26

On April 12 2010 05:47 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

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Actually, in long (30 mins. +) games of PvZ I've seen more than my fair share of guardians, and sometimes even Devourers at the D+ level.

Guardians and devourers occasionally show up in pro ZvP matches - Devourers to counter corsairs, if Protoss is using more than one hotkey of corsairs, and guardians to harass expansions while hiding over cliffs, if the Protoss doesn't have a stack of corsairs.

DarthThienAn

United States2734 Posts

April 12 2010 13:20 GMT

#27

I don't know why people don't use Guardians more often. They rape so hard. If you have the money to get them, why not? 2 or 3 can really screw up a Protoss who has only ground army.

madnessman

United States1581 Posts

April 12 2010 14:06 GMT

#28

Yeah I played the campaign non stop back when starcraft was new. It's definitely a solid way of familiarizing yourself with the game and learning hte basics. you need to relearn strategy to play online though...

zatic

Zurich15306 Posts

April 12 2010 14:19 GMT

#29

On April 11 2010 09:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Beat it? With what? At this point I'm imposing heavy restrictions because just beating a mission won't bring me happiness.

I still find Broodwar Zerg mission 8 and/or 9 pretty tough. Especially if you want to finish 9 under 25? minutes to unlock the secret mission.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

April 12 2010 16:19 GMT

#30

Zerg mission 9 is easy. Just go hydralurk, keep making hydras and lurkers, get both upgrades for hydras, and push into Protoss by 12:00 and you should win. I can even do it and my macro is a piece of shit.

Zerg mission 8 is very challenging, I admit, and I haven't yet beat it short of a maxed out ground army or a Guardevourer 18/18 with DT's coming in at the last second. I'll beat it with something smaller when I stop hating the mission.

The only reason I'm good at campaign is because I'm a minimalist. When Prima told me "Make 3 groups: 12 Zealots, 12 Goons, and 12 Scouts", I'm like "Fuck it. I don't need 12 of each. I can do it with 6 and micro."

da_head

Canada3350 Posts

April 12 2010 16:40 GMT

#31

On April 12 2010 23:19 zatic wrote:

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I still find Broodwar Zerg mission 8 and/or 9 pretty tough. Especially if you want to finish 9 under 25? minutes to unlock the secret mission.

really? they're pretty easy...just literally do mass hydras, uprgrade overlord drop and u win.

dangots0ul

United States919 Posts

April 12 2010 17:38 GMT

#32

any tips on how to play campaign to make it fun. I play on my mac with shit connections so i play campaign while handicaping myself.

I've beat all protoss levels with only scouts on offence and cannons on defense (for maps i can make scouts). I've beaten all terran with wraiths on offence and bunkered rines on defense. I've beat all zerg with mutalisk on offence and sunken/spore on defense.

All doing this w/o a mouse and just that mousepad shit mac has. I've gotten quite good at it =).

Anything else i should try?

d(O.o)a

Canada5066 Posts

April 12 2010 17:46 GMT

#33

On April 13 2010 02:38 dangots0ul wrote:
any tips on how to play campaign to make it fun. I play on my mac with shit connections so i play campaign while handicaping myself.

I've beat all protoss levels with only scouts on offence and cannons on defense (for maps i can make scouts). I've beaten all terran with wraiths on offence and bunkered rines on defense. I've beat all zerg with mutalisk on offence and sunken/spore on defense.

All doing this w/o a mouse and just that mousepad shit mac has. I've gotten quite good at it =).

Anything else i should try?

Mass dark archon on levels you can use them

mass sair/reaver