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Seriously I have no clue why I play Terran. Why just why.
Terran is so ridiculously hard it isn't even funny. You need to have 250+apm to play it anywhere near a competitive level. You have to have ridiculous micro against any forms of cheese from both protoss and zerg. You can't make ANY mistakes. Even making 1 fucking mistake can EASILY cost you the game against anyone halfway decent. Losing even the first tank in TvP hurts SO god damn much. Losing the first vessel in TvZ is basically fukin gg.
Microing terran units is stupid. You need to stim rines and irad and siege/unsiege in TvZ midgame it's stupid. You have to watch out he doesn't scourge ur vessels yet ur still forced to basically lead with them to be on the lookout for lurks and other random bullshit in the field. You can't get caught in a flank at any point or it's over. You can be at 140 supply 12 minutes in and if you even mismicro once during a battle it's gg vs an army 50 supply less.
T has almost no cheese either- and all of it is basically all in. Protoss can proxy gates and still be in the game if it gets scouted. 8rax is fukin lame now any halfway smart Z can rape you with drones like it's nothing. You have to have the most fucking timing senses in the universe as T. You have to always be on the fucking lookout for speedling all ins, you have to know EXACTLY when to push in TvP for a timing push. During a push you have to siege and keep everything angled correctly, make turrets, lay mines. Unsiege, move... If even one aspect fails it's basically gg just about. Holy shit wtffffff. You can't let speedzeals get near the tanks, you have to plant mines perfectly so they damage him and not rape all ur tanks.
T has no fuckin game ending units either. DT's are instant gg vs no detection. Lurkers same thing. T has what? Cloaked fucking wraiths? U shitting me?
Dude and then there's fuking TvT. TvT the bullshit matchup of epic proportions. “It's like chess.” Screw that. It's like a clusterfuck. You can have a ridiculous lead, be 3 bases ahead and still lose to some bullshit drop in ur main. You can win every battle in the first 15 minutes of the game and still stand no chance. Hell you can flat out lose with the opening build 50% of the time in TvT. 90% of the players outside korea don't understand this matchup worth a damn so most of us just macro around and pray our build was the better build in the given game.
Oh and speaking of builds there are so many ridiculously hard builds to defend in every matchup. 10/15 gate on Longi or Medusa is near suicide for a T, even if you wall you have to have fucking godlike micro to even hold it while ur tank and siege mode finishes. They have like 4 goons vs 1 tank even if you go rax/gas on 10. Then you have to siege it in the perfectly correct spot or they'll still rape you. Too close and it gets fukin raped by ranged goons, too far away and 7 goons just destroy the wall ezpz. Protoss has so many fucking directions to take the game too. Dt drops, reaver drops, double expand, 2base arbiter.......... You have to constaly be sending scvs around the entire map to keep on the lookout for proxy'd shit or hidden expos. If T goes for expo elsewhere on the map it gets spotted and raped so easily T can't do shit about it.
TvZ you have to deal with 9pool speedlings, even if you send scouting scv at 10 and have 4 scvs on ur ramp- if your scvs aren't perfectly placed and rines right there u get raped anyway. TvZ you have to deal with muta micro even with turrets and bunkers behind ur mineral lines they just fly around and pick off every little unit that's sitting around. You can't have a single marine leave the group or a single scv building a building out in the open or it'll get raped. And while this shit is happening the Z is taking the map and massing 26+ lurkers.
Swarm is imba too you cant do shit. You can be winning the game and he sneaks 2 defilers near ur nat and main and swarms and 4 lurkers rape all ur rax like it's nothing.
Omfg u have to be thinking about 42 things at once all while microing, macroing, keeping an eye on the minimap and not missing a fucking depot.
You have to be constantly scanning and adapting to the other players, especially in TvZ. U can't decide how the game is going to jack shit in the early game. Ur forced reacting to if they go quick mutas or hydras or lurkers or speedlings. Unless you try to go for some stupid all in sunk break or something, and that's so damn easy for Z to stop just make 8 sunks and it's gg. Or if you try to mech they just sunk and block their ramp so vult cant do squat. Then just mass up speedhydras and get ovie speed to rape ur minefield like their fukin wipen dust off their feet from the sahara desert.
It takes so much god damn work to even start to compete at higher levels... I have no fucking clue how or why the fuck I play terran.
I just needed to say that and vent some terran rage after playing very poorly tonight in wcg matches.
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Too true. Us terran folks do have it pretty tough.
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Baa?21242 Posts
On May 01 2008 06:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote: KOREAN MAPS ARE LESS IMPORTANT HAHA WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT KOREAN MAPS KID? JESUS TRY THE HARD LIFE OF A ZERG. WE DONT HAVE FUCKING MAP CROSSING ARCLITE CANNONS, EVERYTHING CANNOT BE REPAIRS, WE DONT HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION LIKE SPIDER MINES AND WE CERTAINLY AS FUCK DONT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAUSE ANY GAME THAT HAS THAT SUCKS LIKE COMMAND AND CONQUER 3. ALSO, WE DONT HAVE FLYING BUILDINGS OR MOTHERFUCKING DEFENSIVE STRUCTURES THAT SHOOT AIR AND GROUND AND CAN BE REPAIRED AND COST 100$ FUCKING MINERALS. OUR WORKERS DIE WHEN THE WIND BLOWS TOO HARD AND SURE AS FUCK DONT HAVE FUSION CUTTERS. WAIT? YOU HAVE GOLIATHS THAT SHOOT ACROSS THE MAP AT AIR UNITS AND CAN BE REPAIRED AND ARE CHEAP? JESUS WHO MADE THIS GAME. JESUS I WISH I HAD 5-6 of THE ALL TIME BEST PLAYERS TO MODEL MY GAME AFTER. WAIT? WERENT THEY ALL FUCKING TERRAN? WE HAVE NADA, BOXER, OOV, FLASH, MIDAS and XELLOS ALL KICKING ASS FOR YEARS AT A TIME WHILE WE GET FUCKING FAT ASS JULY WHO SUCKS NOW, YELLOW WHO ALWAYS FUCKING SUCKED BUT NOBODY KNEW FOR A BIT AND WE FINALLY GOT SAVIOR BUT THEN THEY DRESSED HIM LIKE HITLER SO HE SUCKED AND NOW WE HAVE JAEDONG BUT THAT KID CANT FIGURE OUT THE NEW KOREAN MAPS THAT DONT MATTER. JESUS FUCK IT MUST BE NICE TO HAVE PLAYERS THAT SPAN DECADES AND DOMINATE THE ENTIRE TIME. GIMME SOME OF THAT PLEASE. HEY WHAT ABOUT BUILDINGS DO YOU LOSE A SCV EACH TIME YOU MAKE ONE? NO. WHAT THE FUCK? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY TELL THEM TO RETURN TO MINING AFTER THEY ARE DONE BUILDING? I THOUGHT THAT AUTO MINING GARBAGE WAS FOR HACKERS OR BAD GAMES. TERRAN'S CAN DO IT? FUCK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A SWEET DEAL. EACH TIME WE (zerg) HAVE TO BUILD WE TELL ONE OF OUR SACRED MINERS "HEY FUCK YOU TIME TO DIE" AND THEY DO. THEN WE GET A FUCKING BUILDING. WHICH, HALF THE TIME ISNT ENOUGH: WE HAVE TO PAY MOREE FUCKING MONEY TO GET IT TO DO SOME SHIT LIKE DICK THE GROUND OR SPRAY PISS IN THE AIR.
And that is why no one should ever complain about Terran being hard to play.
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United States4796 Posts
Well.
If you realized that.
You're definitely getting better. I can't play Terran for my life, so I respect what you have to say a lot, and I never realized how hard it was. Are you going to consider playing a different race, as long as it takes?
Good luck with WCG if there's still a chance for you, mate.
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LOL. Funny blog + iNcontrol quote
edit: Perhaps your intent was not to be funny, but it still made me smile lol
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I find zerg alot more harder to play with, always the same, more ovies, more ovies.
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United States10774 Posts
what skill level are you?
listen to xmshake's advice if you are c- or lower
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lol true right now its swarm's age terran is barely hanging on.
ever since late 06 terran had it pretty tough. we need a terran savior a terran new bonjwa who will lead us out of this dark age. although protoss seems having harder time dealing wit Z atm
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Artosis
United States2138 Posts
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Remember Terran is also so imba that allows firebathero to pull off that ridiculous victory against savior.
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Epic clash between InControl and LuckyFool hahahahahaha. Yeah Terran is damn hard. The only reasons why i play Terran, is cause 1) They are human ( I have some weird obligatory feeling towards humans in video games for some reason) 2) You could only play Terran in the demo. And i thought, well i already learned what the buildings and units are and what not, so whatever might as well. lol -.- I feel your pain. hahaha Keep trying!
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Baa?21242 Posts
Oh also Vultures are definitely the most imba unit in this game. I mean, what the fuck, so fast and cheap.
On May 01 2008 00:36 NonY[rC] wrote: To paraphrase Grandmaster Artosis, the entirety of Terran strategy for every matchup can be summarized as waiting to get enough tanks to kill an entire army in one volley. Even the short-sighted and simple Terran players can recognize such a great imbalance. But I have to admit, having the fastest unit in the game on only the 2nd tier of tech with a short build time, that can shoot fragmentation grenades capable of vaporizing all peons, zerglings, zealots, defilers, and high and dark templar in seconds, and can even shoot these grenades backwards without losing acceleration, AND can shit out three mini-nukes that burrow into the ground only to pop out at the perfect time and seek out an enemy unit at an inescapable speed, gives siege tanks and their arclite cannons quite a run for their money.
Ah, how could I forget their cost? Let's make a list of units (excluding peons) that are cheaper than vultures: --Zergling --Marine
That was easy.
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United States11390 Posts
Lucky, you're bad.
Magnum > you imo.
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boxer will be back to roll the other races to victory ALL HAIL THE EMPEROR
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Hive play, probably hardest thing in this game, especially against a Terran. (Prolly most deadliest too.) Try it, come back and weep when you missed a few scourges and your defilers got irradiated and a Terran ball 1a2a3a4a into your base.
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This is why winning with Terran is the most satisfying.
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On July 29 2009 11:44 OneOther wrote: what skill level are you?
listen to xmshake's advice if you are c- or lower I'm a B- high.
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lol this gave me a laugh.
also, why is that i never see any of these for protoss? LOL
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