[Spoilers] e-Stars Day 3 Reach vs Tossgirl - Page 3
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
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Kreedit
Sweden373 Posts
Reach even though hes in ace and isnt that hot anymore still got a sexy PvT (sure hes no stork or jangbi but hes good) while tossgirl is FUCKING HORRIBLE in all matchups(heard that she might be half decent vs z but not to sure of that. Add in all the dumb mistakes he made and yeah... it all adds up to him throwing it. EDIT: I can accept that he went soft on her to make up for all that earlier shit but then got overwhelmed. tough that still qualifies as throwing it for me. | ||
Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
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nexusil
United States52 Posts
Even if he killed the tank before the tank killed the nexus, it wouldn't have mattered the slightest. He ended up killing that tank anyway, and still failed to secure the expansion. By the time tossgirl floated over her CC, that nexus would be dead one way or another and Reach knows that. It wasn't high priority as long as he kills the tank. Reach expanding at 1'o clock: At the time it probably felt like a good idea as a hidden expo. Tossgirl did not find that expo until her dropship was returning and met an unexpected goon which almost sniped the decelerating dropship. She would never have found it if it weren't for the drop, and even then had a good chance of not finding it. That expo would be easy to defend once the Carriers were out. | ||
konadora
Singapore66063 Posts
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Johnny B
United States76 Posts
Welcome to TL! You make fair points; I'll have to watch the VOD once it's up. I think there's still enough suspicion to warrant a trial of Reach not playing his hardest, but I'm not convicting him yet. | ||
konadora
Singapore66063 Posts
On July 21 2009 00:43 nexusil wrote: Reach not saving the nexus with his reaver: Even if he killed the tank before the tank killed the nexus, it wouldn't have mattered the slightest. He ended up killing that tank anyway, and still failed to secure the expansion. By the time tossgirl floated over her CC, that nexus would be dead one way or another and Reach knows that. It wasn't high priority as long as he kills the tank. Reach expanding at 1'o clock: At the time it probably felt like a good idea as a hidden expo. Tossgirl did not find that expo until her dropship was returning and met an unexpected goon which almost sniped the decelerating dropship. She would never have found it if it weren't for the drop, and even then had a good chance of not finding it. That expo would be easy to defend once the Carriers were out. Fair enough reason, but for the expo issue, Tossgirl spawned at 1. Siege tank and turret near the cliff and slowly transfer tanks to the island. Nat easily destroyed. If Tossgirl spawned at let's say, 7 or 9, this would have been more understandable. Of course, Reach may not have anticipated Tossgirl to go for dropships, but seeing how many games were played on that map, as well as the close position spawns, he should have known that. | ||
Mah Buckit!
Finland474 Posts
On July 21 2009 01:05 konadora wrote: Fair enough reason, but for the expo issue, Tossgirl spawned at 1. Siege tank and turret near the cliff and slowly transfer tanks to the island. Nat easily destroyed. If Tossgirl spawned at let's say, 7 or 9, this would have been more understandable. Of course, Reach may not have anticipated Tossgirl to go for dropships, but seeing how many games were played on that map, as well as the close position spawns, he should have known that. Yeah maybe Reach thought she would play in the same fashion as Boxer because she didn´t cheese either, expanding to the bottom and securing with a tankline. Reach was going for a early game economical lead. Maybe he didn´t think Tossgirl would go for air at all when she built all those turrets and didn´t get a Dship that fast. I think Reach is the Man but god it was a sloppy game from him, no HTs no ground units. And that was also the best game from Tossgirl I have ever seen, she didn´t make that many bad mistakes. | ||
Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Ruby is there, but i don't think he's even done with basic yet. I LB tossgirl because I thought she'd be able to take one of the ACE players in this tournament. I do think that tossgirl would benefit from being on a team that actually participates in minor league, though. | ||
Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
Which made it so much sweater when she stole the expansion from him. | ||
konadora
Singapore66063 Posts
On July 21 2009 01:34 Nevuk wrote: Reach recently lost to tiny in a series. That's far worse, to me, than to lose to tossgirl. At this point, she's only being stigmatized for being female. Tossgirl is basically either at an average b-teamer level or just slightly above it. There are way worse players out there. Cat, for instance is like 0-5 in minor league. (I think he's neo.g.minam now.) Even very good players can lose to b-teamers in bo1 matches, and being in ACE guarantees that Reach might only have 50% of the practice time tossgirl does (she recently mentioned she's practicing 14 hours a day for this tournament, ACE members have 8 hours I think) and might not have as good practice partners. What terrans are on ace? Casy? Cloud? Ruby is there, but i don't think he's even done with basic yet. I LB tossgirl because I thought she'd be able to take one of the ACE players in this tournament. I do think that tossgirl would benefit from being on a team that actually participates in minor league, though. Reach losing to Tossgirl isn't really what's upsetting me, it's just how Reach played so bad as compared to when he usually does, as though to throw away the game. Most, if not all his decision making was poor and bad. | ||
laLAlA[uC]
Canada963 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On July 20 2009 21:19 Eury wrote: You seriously think that Reach would throw away a game with that much money on the line not to mention his reputation? And for what; Tossgirl's gratitude? Not sure if that it is worth $40k, but maybe you have a different opinion. the power of a women is not how well she plays, but in the bed. | ||
StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On July 21 2009 01:05 konadora wrote: Fair enough reason, but for the expo issue, Tossgirl spawned at 1. Siege tank and turret near the cliff and slowly transfer tanks to the island. Nat easily destroyed. If Tossgirl spawned at let's say, 7 or 9, this would have been more understandable. Of course, Reach may not have anticipated Tossgirl to go for dropships, but seeing how many games were played on that map, as well as the close position spawns, he should have known that. maybe he thought it would be a nice secret expo, close for the drop. | ||
Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On July 21 2009 01:38 laLAlA[uC] wrote: Tossgirl won cause I liquibetted on her. ;D But seriously, Reach played really sloppy and Tossgirl pretty well (for her standards), but thinking that Reach dropped this game on purpose is just wrong, and kinda ridiculous. | ||
koOl
Canada254 Posts
On July 21 2009 00:01 Zzoram wrote: Exactly. There was a large cash prize, prestige, and his reputation on the line. No way he meant to lose that game. At the VERY WORST, he may not have fully prepared because he underestimated her, and wasn't fully concentrating early on because of the epic fails he witnessed from her recently. After that, you can blame his slipups to panic. aye..it makes no sense to lose a match that was do or die in a sense. he needed to win it to get into the finals | ||
Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On July 20 2009 20:40 konadora wrote: The whole thing just felt rather sloppy and lazy on Reach's part. It was almost like he didn't really care that much. Yeah, I don't think the match was a set up. I dunno why such conspiracy theories should even warrant a thread of their own to be honest. He lost to Tossgirl, yeah so what. He played bad, and she played decently. People are being ridiculousy biased against her because she's a girl. | ||
Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On July 21 2009 01:37 konadora wrote: Reach losing to Tossgirl isn't really what's upsetting me, it's just how Reach played so bad as compared to when he usually does, as though to throw away the game. Most, if not all his decision making was poor and bad. Yeah but I bet it upsets you ten times more that he lost to Tossgirl though. I think this thread is a bit awkward to be honest. First of all you're accusing Reach of throwing games, second you make a big deal out of him loosing to a female progamer. | ||
thunk
United States6233 Posts
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BisuBoi
United States350 Posts
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