On July 01 2009 09:20 ZeeTemplar wrote:
there are a ton of aliens in southern california. some bad some good
there are a ton of aliens in southern california. some bad some good
I lol'd
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ArvickHero
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On July 01 2009 09:20 ZeeTemplar wrote: there are a ton of aliens in southern california. some bad some good I lol'd | ||
Faronel
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On July 01 2009 09:37 ShadowDrgn wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 08:47 micronesia wrote: Personally I think the Drake equation is not very useful. Chances of there being any life that will ever be close enough for us to meet: tiny. Chances of us communicating through radio signals: slightly less tiny. Chances that there is life out there SOMEWHERE: not bad. Given millions of years, humanity could do a fair job of colonizing our entire galaxy even at sub-light speeds. The technology isn't there yet, of course, but it almost certainly will be very "soon" relative to the age of the universe. From there, we could branch out to other galaxies and explore a lot of space on a billion year time scale. In that scenario, even if someone does meet an alien species, 99.99999999% of humanity wouldn't ever know about it, but it'd still happen! Cosmic events can stop evolution in its tracks. If you think about that, you have to understand humanity's ability to expand itself to other solar systems and galaxies as finite. Maybe there won't be enough time for us to invent effective space travel. Maybe we'll kill each other before that happens. Maybe we'll just run out of resources. @ OP: You're basically imagining a group of incredibly ignorant people that don't really exist. Just about everyone who knows how big the universe is believes there's life outside of Earth. It's not unthinkable that we're the first intelligent life, but that's highly unlikely considering the age of the universe. | ||
Inzek
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but intelligent (according to what we call intelligence) life is difficult... under the OP reasons we could believe in bigfoot, snowman, etc.... | ||
micronesia
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On July 01 2009 09:37 ShadowDrgn wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 08:47 micronesia wrote: Personally I think the Drake equation is not very useful. Chances of there being any life that will ever be close enough for us to meet: tiny. Chances of us communicating through radio signals: slightly less tiny. Chances that there is life out there SOMEWHERE: not bad. Given millions of years, humanity could do a fair job of colonizing our entire galaxy even at sub-light speeds. The technology isn't there yet, of course, but it almost certainly will be very "soon" relative to the age of the universe. From there, we could branch out to other galaxies and explore a lot of space on a billion year time scale. In that scenario, even if someone does meet an alien species, 99.99999999% of humanity wouldn't ever know about it, but it'd still happen! It would take many years to get to another star. I fail to see any prospective technology that makes interstellar transport of live humans possible. I suggest you read: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83816#18 | ||
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On July 01 2009 08:49 GGQ wrote: you're a dumbass (no offence) Irony... In any case, I need positive evidence for anything. Prove to me that there are aliens or God or whatever else people believe in. The fact that I can't prove that they don't exist isn't an argument for their existence. It simply means that science hasn't progressed that far yet. Faith is stupid because it skips right over any kind of mental effort and only requires blind acquiescence. Of course, it's obvious that with the billions of stars out there, there are at least a couple that have the capability of sustaining life, but that does not make a strong argument that it's there. | ||
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On July 01 2009 10:42 micronesia wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 09:37 ShadowDrgn wrote: On July 01 2009 08:47 micronesia wrote: Personally I think the Drake equation is not very useful. Chances of there being any life that will ever be close enough for us to meet: tiny. Chances of us communicating through radio signals: slightly less tiny. Chances that there is life out there SOMEWHERE: not bad. Given millions of years, humanity could do a fair job of colonizing our entire galaxy even at sub-light speeds. The technology isn't there yet, of course, but it almost certainly will be very "soon" relative to the age of the universe. From there, we could branch out to other galaxies and explore a lot of space on a billion year time scale. In that scenario, even if someone does meet an alien species, 99.99999999% of humanity wouldn't ever know about it, but it'd still happen! It would take many years to get to another star. I fail to see any prospective technology that makes interstellar transport of live humans possible. I suggest you read: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83816#18 He said soon by the standards of the universe. What you need to realise is that humanity is only 50,000 or so years old. The fact that we don't have interstellar travel now is irrelevant. It wasn't so long ago that the first men started harnessing fire while now that same power is used to propel their descendants to the moon. Another 50,000 years would be the blink of an eye in the history of the universe while the advancement required is nothing compared to how far man has already come. That said, I don't believe the question of whether there are aliens is relevant because of the lifespan of species and the size of the universe. There probably are, were, and will be. But for two sentient species to coexist within the same area in both time and space is vastly less likely. What I find way more interesting is that it was just 20,000 years ago that homosapiens became the sole self conscious life on earth after wiping out the Neanderthal. It's not so long ago that another self aware species roamed the earth and that really messes with our egocentric view. | ||
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On July 01 2009 12:22 Irrelevant wrote: Simply, the major religions of the world doesn't have them listed. A decent portion of Christians believe Aliens are fallen angels, as does my self; Books of Enoch confirm this for us Christians if they only open up their mind. Aliens seem to be one of those things that the majority of people need to see with their own eyes to believe. You have former astronauts, government workers and obviously people everywhere in between saying they have seen something thy cant explain. Then we have various reports, videos, audio, obviously nothing conclusive enough to say, okay..they're here! I'm just trying to say there are people in every day walks of lives reporting these things now a days, not just the inbred trailer park guy of the past. UFO's are a proven phenomena that has been going on for thousands of years, from Aztec drawings up until this very day, now what are they is the question you have to ask for your self. | ||
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On July 01 2009 12:29 BC.WeaPonX wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 12:22 Irrelevant wrote: Simply, the major religions of the world doesn't have them listed. A decent portion of Christians believe Aliens are fallen angels, as does my self; Books of Enoch confirm this for us Christians if they only open up their mind. Aliens seem to be one of those things that the majority of people need to see with their own eyes to believe. You have former astronauts, government workers and obviously people everywhere in between saying they have seen something thy cant explain. Then we have various reports, videos, audio, obviously nothing conclusive enough to say, okay..they're here! I'm just trying to say there are people in every day walks of lives reporting these things now a days, not just the inbred trailer park guy of the past. UFO's are a proven phenomena that has been going on for thousands of years, from Aztec drawings up until this very day, now what are they is the question you have to ask for your self. lol | ||
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