EPTWhy don't people believe in aliens? - Page 5
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GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
 anyway, with ufos, someone should post that video of how small this earth really is in comparison to things in our galaxy, let alone universe, and then whether we are the only ones alone comes into perspective. | ||
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Piste
6184 Posts
On July 01 2009 08:28 Grommit wrote: What makes you think that "so many people" refuse to believe in aliens? Are there even any legitimate studies about that kind of thing? +1 stupid thread. | ||
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
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MK
United States496 Posts
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micronesia
United States24805 Posts
On July 01 2009 14:59 Probe. wrote: No it wouldn't. The way the keyboard is designed that doesn't make any sense. If i pounded my keyboard no matter what I would never get a real word, just gibberish. For example: if i hit the left side of my keyboard I'm bound to hit a QAWSZX. There isn't a word in the dictionary with those letters together. When they say that what they really mean is random selection of letters... in which case it is statistically true (although not practically since every monkey that ever lived wouldn't be nearly enough to produce Shakespeare) | ||
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kefkalives
Australia1272 Posts
On July 01 2009 15:43 micronesia wrote: When they say that what they really mean is random selection of letters... in which case it is statistically true (although not practically since every monkey that ever lived wouldn't be nearly enough to produce Shakespeare) It was the best of times, it was the blust of times... Blurst of times! What is this nonsense. | ||
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vik170
Norway11 Posts
be sure to watch in HQ | ||
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
On July 01 2009 13:14 micronesia wrote: However, I believe we are getting to a point where the scientist is better than the historian at answering questions about if certain technologies and advancements are attainable. Regardless, he said "but it almost certainly will be very 'soon' relative to the age of the universe." Because humans have not been around for that long, you consider interstellar colonization a likelihood? Even if we were assured that humans would be around for a billion years, that doesn't mean that we will accomplish anything that we want to. Well, it is a fact that we can travel through space already, the matter of colonizing other planets then boils down to how much time it will take to travel to them and how long it will take until we find a usable planet. Even if we have to crawl our way toward the next planet and leave space stations on the way for easy transportation of resources, it will happen. In any case this can't possibly take very long compared to the age of the universe, even with current technology, and I'm sure noone believes that we will stay at the current space travel capability, it will most probably improve a lot. Also, humanity is in a kind of singularity in that the rate of advancement is accelerating, and regardless of whether this acceleration will continue for very long or not, it surely increases the hope that we have in colonizing another planet / asteroid / giant rock "very soon" (as in, say, the next 500 years). I think the more interesting question is what this all means to us on a more personal level. Today we can imagine space travel and looking through the spaceship's glass toward the planets and stars. Tomorrow we will be living it. But do we need to wait that long, really? Computing is advancing so rapidly, that it is really easy to believe that in a few years we will be able to live that experience almost completely from our own homes. And it might be even better than that, as reality doesn't really allow us to explore the possibilities that much, but imagine a very realistic virtual reality game where you can re-enact Star Wars or some shit like that. I mean, I don't like war and would never participate in one, especially after I found Call of Duty 4. That shit is really immersive, it grabs onto your brain and it's almost like you're there. Computing will soon be realistic enough for you to feel like you're there, and more. | ||
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Sosha
United States749 Posts
Video is amazing. Everyone watch! truly, in ever sense of the word, w/ every fiber of its meaning, AMAZING gL | ||
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micronesia
United States24805 Posts
On July 01 2009 16:15 LG)Sabbath wrote: I don't agree with you that it will happen. I consider the odds unlikely.Well, it is a fact that we can travel through space already, the matter of colonizing other planets then boils down to how much time it will take to travel to them and how long it will take until we find a usable planet. Even if we have to crawl our way toward the next planet and leave space stations on the way for easy transportation of resources, it will happen. In any case this can't possibly take very long compared to the age of the universe, even with current technology, and I'm sure noone believes that we will stay at the current space travel capability, it will most probably improve a lot. Also, humanity is in a kind of singularity in that the rate of advancement is accelerating, How do you measure the rate of advancement? How do you conclude that it is accelerating? and regardless of whether this acceleration will continue for very long or not, it surely increases the hope that we have in colonizing another planet / asteroid / giant rock "very soon" (as in, say, the next 500 years). I don't see any purpose in trying to colonize a place that can't sustain human life. | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
On July 01 2009 14:34 Sosha wrote: Theres possibilites of both kinds of aliens, the technologically advanced, but also the rather bug-like or totally hideous kind that's hell-bent on infesting and expanding. What makes you think humanity does not fall into this category? | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
On July 01 2009 08:39 o3.power91 wrote: Of that 1000 people, how many spoke Klingon? rofl probably out ther doubt we will find any in our life time. | ||
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micronesia
United States24805 Posts
On July 01 2009 23:47 prOxi.swAMi wrote: What makes you think humanity does not fall into this category? What do you mean, humanity is totally hideous? http://www.teamliquid.net/gallery/ Oh wait n/m | ||
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BeJe77
United States377 Posts
Not too long ago we believed the earth was flat, then we said the Earth was the center of the universe, 100 years ago we started to communicate via radio waves and about same time we started to make planes...only 60 or so years since we had computers....who are we to say life out there does not exist? While there are certain conditions, at least to our knowledge of how life can form via the circumstances that happened to Earth. With the universe being so infinitely large, there is almost a guarantee that there is some sort of other life out there. Now they may be older or younger then us, since we have not been around for long, and universe has formed a very long time ago. Weather they are alive or not depends on if they overcame circumstances that are affecting us today to be able to survive and not to mention all the other stuff the universe can throw at you. So in the end, it is quite possible there is other intelligent life out there, but with the universe being so freaking large, we may never meet them. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On July 01 2009 08:29 Liquid`Drone wrote: erm a lot of americans believe in aliens and ufo's.. Yeah probably not only americans though. Alot of norwegians are satan-worshippers | ||
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Glaucus
479 Posts
As for astronomical numbers and the probability of intelligent life out there and the Drake equation. The Drake equation needs only one really small number and it won't matter at all how many stars there are. The probability of life originating from biochemistry may very well be almost zero, eventhough on earth it happened almost immediately from when it could happen. Same for multicellular life and intelligent life. Drake equation proves we are the only one out there just as much as it does the opposite. The Fermi paradox is not a paradox. Right now because of the Fermi 'Paradox' we think we know that the odds of intelligent life being out there in the Milky Way is very close to zero. There is no intelligent life in the Millky Way at the right moment at the right time so that they are able to communicate with us. Otherwise, they would have and we would have known. So intelligent life in the Milky Way may occur or have occured but only millions of years before or after earth had intelligent life. And besides the probable exteme rarity, intelligent life may very well always be self-destructive, as we see on this planet. And Darwinian evolution explains very well why. If within 100 years we find microcellular life on Mars or Europa and we find many very extrasolar planets with lots of oxygen and water in the habitable zone and at correct temperatures then that can mean only two things: 1) We are about to go extinct 2) Intelligent life is incredibly rare and it really only happened once in the Milky Way So if we find life on Mars and we find 'earths', like we expect to do we better either also find a Dyson sphere or we should prepare for doomsday. So either we are very special, which is against the Copernical principle, and we passed through the Great Filter or we are about to hit the Great Filter ourselves. Which one is more likely? I fear the second. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
whether or not that life is intelligent or not? who knows | ||
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irishash
United States285 Posts
A Day With An Extra-Terrestrial edit: it's a long read. very interesting even if you are a firm non-believer. | ||
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