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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
July 01 2009 03:57 GMT
#61
It's very probable (almost certain) that intelligent life exists(ed)
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 01 2009 04:03 GMT
#62
On July 01 2009 12:52 Zurles wrote:
99.9999% existence probability

Agreed with probably a few more 9's.

An interesting thing I read about UFO's in a book by some guy named Jim Marrs. It was called "The Fourth Reich" it was a nicely researched conspiracy theory novel which is very entertaining, in about the third chapter it says how the Nazi's technology was FAR more advanced then modern history leads us to believe. It in fact says that the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki used Plutonium created by the Germans, because the Manhattan project failed to yield the necessary amount of Uranium to produce the bombs.

It also mentions how the German's were able to create UFO's and goes into great detail. It sounds a bit crazy but its all cited, so take it as you will. Its a book worth reading if you like history and wouldn't mind seeing another take on it.

http://www.jimmarrs.com/store.php

Cost me like 20$ in Barnes and Noble like 5 months ago.
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
July 01 2009 04:09 GMT
#63
On July 01 2009 13:03 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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On July 01 2009 12:52 Zurles wrote:
99.9999% existence probability

Agreed with probably a few more 9's.

An interesting thing I read about UFO's in a book by some guy named Jim Marrs. It was called "The Fourth Reich" it was a nicely researched conspiracy theory novel which is very entertaining, in about the third chapter it says how the Nazi's technology was FAR more advanced then modern history leads us to believe. It in fact says that the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki used Plutonium created by the Germans, because the Manhattan project failed to yield the necessary amount of Uranium to produce the bombs.

It also mentions how the German's were able to create UFO's and goes into great detail. It sounds a bit crazy but its all cited, so take it as you will. Its a book worth reading if you like history and wouldn't mind seeing another take on it.

http://www.jimmarrs.com/store.php

Cost me like 20$ in Barnes and Noble like 5 months ago.

My personal opinion is that if things like this were true, they would get more attention rather than being in some random book at B&N.

I mentioned it was my opinion because people on the internet seem to like to point out when things are opinions even when it's really obvious.
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MannerMan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
371 Posts
July 01 2009 04:09 GMT
#64
I think there's a big distinction between believing in alien life and believing in aliens having visited us. Most thinking people will probably agree that alien life is quite likely and aliens having come here is not.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24792 Posts
July 01 2009 04:14 GMT
#65
On July 01 2009 12:27 Kwark wrote:
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On July 01 2009 10:42 micronesia wrote:
On July 01 2009 09:37 ShadowDrgn wrote:
On July 01 2009 08:47 micronesia wrote:
Personally I think the Drake equation is not very useful. Chances of there being any life that will ever be close enough for us to meet: tiny. Chances of us communicating through radio signals: slightly less tiny. Chances that there is life out there SOMEWHERE: not bad.


Given millions of years, humanity could do a fair job of colonizing our entire galaxy even at sub-light speeds. The technology isn't there yet, of course, but it almost certainly will be very "soon" relative to the age of the universe. From there, we could branch out to other galaxies and explore a lot of space on a billion year time scale. In that scenario, even if someone does meet an alien species, 99.99999999% of humanity wouldn't ever know about it, but it'd still happen!

It would take many years to get to another star. I fail to see any prospective technology that makes interstellar transport of live humans possible.

I suggest you read:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83816#18


He said soon by the standards of the universe. What you need to realise is that humanity is only 50,000 or so years old. The fact that we don't have interstellar travel now is irrelevant. It wasn't so long ago that the first men started harnessing fire while now that same power is used to propel their descendants to the moon. Another 50,000 years would be the blink of an eye in the history of the universe while the advancement required is nothing compared to how far man has already come.

For starters, I don't think I 'need to realize' that humanity is only ~50k years old. I very well understand your point.

However, I believe we are getting to a point where the scientist is better than the historian at answering questions about if certain technologies and advancements are attainable.

Regardless, he said "but it almost certainly will be very 'soon' relative to the age of the universe." Because humans have not been around for that long, you consider interstellar colonization a likelihood? Even if we were assured that humans would be around for a billion years, that doesn't mean that we will accomplish anything that we want to.
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Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
July 01 2009 04:17 GMT
#66
I believe there is a strong chance there is life somewhere else in the universe (aliens). But for me to believe there are little green men flying around putting anal probes in rednecks and killing cattle is pretty far fetched.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
July 01 2009 04:17 GMT
#67

flying spaghetti monsters.
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
July 01 2009 04:33 GMT
#68
Well what people? I bet if you surveyed all of the world a decent amount of people would, at least I do.
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 01 2009 04:38 GMT
#69
They definitely exist and its a race to find them and annex their shit before they kill us. The finder will come out on top cuz they obviously can travel through deep space and that shits imba.

Ghosts are real too f u.
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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
July 01 2009 05:07 GMT
#70
On July 01 2009 08:27 eMbrace wrote:
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On July 01 2009 08:25 Piy wrote:
Why don't people believe in UFO's?

Kind of a strange contradictory thing to put at the end of your post imo...


Many UFO sightings and reported abductions sound absolutely ridiculous. I'm sure there's a couple controversial ones that are worth discussing, but most are BS.

hmm... i believe many alien sightings and reports are pretty ridiculous as well, so following ur logic i will stop believing in aliens...
ggyo...
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
July 01 2009 05:34 GMT
#71
This is a very controversial, yet highly-interesting subject.

I am in complete love w/ the idea of Aliens.
I'm hoping that if there is aliens, they're more liek Protoss, rather than Zerg. That they have more useful technology (even meaning if they could eradicate us) but perhaps, likewise to the Protoss, follow a belief of Dae'Uhl or The stewardship - where they just 'oversee' and protect lesser species under their galactic patrol.

Theres possibilites of both kinds of aliens, the technologically advanced, but also the rather bug-like or totally hideous kind that's hell-bent on infesting and expanding.

I think it's prolly the very best idea of having hope of space-exploration. I mean c'mon. U know how much $$ america alone is spending on its space-missions and exploration? I'm talking about we're spending more trying to send shuttles into space and look for extra life than anything else! Like - if we quit doing that, we'd prolly not have such a high national debt (not that i'm against space-exploration, just that jeeez.. thats a lot of $$$)

Who's to say we're not alone here..
There have been the rumors of Area 51 and Roswell from way back, I think in the 50's.. but thats highly skeptical as we've still haven't gotten that much proof from it.

However, hearing details about our universe from a highly-informative series called "The universe" off the history channel - it's totally and mind-blowingly unbelieveable how lucky we are to have the Earth.
I seriously wish at least everyone reading this post and using this website would take a step back and really deep-think and appreciate the Earth for what it is and how long we've had it. I wish the entire world could - but they can't all navigate to this site immediately.

Whats so impressive about the Earth:
It's in the Perfect position away from the Sun to sustain life. I'm talking about pretty serious, pretty advanced life. I heard from that show that through space-exploration, we've discovered like up to 300 other worlds... THREE HUNDRED other worlds.. Worlds just like ours, that have land and an atmosphere - not just planets that are totally gaseous like Jupiter that no one could ever inhabit (not that some of those others are inhabitable, but we could at least land there and terra-form etc)
But - of those so many worlds that have been discovered already and named, NONE of them are even close to sustaining life.. even bacteria related.
Can you fathom that ppl?
Think of how big this planet is. I mean, even a state of America is huge.. land-wse. Then u got the Americas. Europe. Asia. Antartica. Earth itself is huge. Thats just ONE planet. We've found SOO many others - yet none even close to having water.. or a tree, or parasites. Even those would at least hold the possibility of eventual evolvement (yes, I believe in evolving, totally more understandable than the belief of a "mighty one")

So ya, that alone makes me truly appreciate the Earth - The ONLY recorded planet to sustain such a diverse enviroment of life. Plants, Animals, Insects, Rivers, Mountains, Cars, Technology, Internet, everything..
We as humans should be totally more respectful of not only each other, but the ONE AND ONLY planet we have - our time is coming to an end.

p.s.
That's why movies these days are making human-beings out to be the bad-guys in films, because of our disrepect of the earth.
Movies like
"The happening"
or "The Day the earth stood still" (new version w/ Keanu Reeves)
Also - for those living in the states and watch tv, you notice that they play "The day after tomarrow" like 3x's a week..
Ya yo..
Global warming is about to own our asses..
but that's getting onto another topic..

<3 idea of aliens
<3 earth

gL
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 01 2009 05:40 GMT
#72
I believe in Aliens. Haven't you ever watched E.T? Classic movie.
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
July 01 2009 05:49 GMT
#73
On July 01 2009 09:15 Jayme wrote:
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On July 01 2009 09:07 B1nary wrote:
I do believe that other intelligent life exists somewhere in the universe but I don't believe we'll ever encounter them. I love Star Trek, but I really don't think we'll ever invent the warp drive. Chances are, we will have depleted the earth's supply of natural resources before we get anywhere near FTL travel.


Eh humans use natural resources mostly for energy consumption.

Once we figure out fusion, and I have no doubt that we will within the next century, most of our natural resource problems will completely vanish because of just how much output fusion reactors have.

So much actually that all the oil companies would be put completely out of business within two to three years.


Which is exactly why fusion will never be discovered.
meow
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
July 01 2009 05:52 GMT
#74
Lets be real here. The universe is infinite. The probability that there is intelligent life may be small, but in the vast expanses of infinity, it is almost GUARENTEED to happen.

Great example posed by a friend ..

If you had an infine amount of monkeys pounding away at keyboards forever, one day, a whole work of shakespeare would appear. Crazy shit eh?
cw)minsean(ru
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
July 01 2009 05:59 GMT
#75
On July 01 2009 14:52 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Lets be real here. The universe is infinite. The probability that there is intelligent life may be small, but in the vast expanses of infinity, it is almost GUARENTEED to happen.

Great example posed by a friend ..

If you had an infine amount of monkeys pounding away at keyboards forever, one day, a whole work of shakespeare would appear. Crazy shit eh?


No it wouldn't. The way the keyboard is designed that doesn't make any sense. If i pounded my keyboard no matter what I would never get a real word, just gibberish. For example: if i hit the left side of my keyboard I'm bound to hit a QAWSZX. There isn't a word in the dictionary with those letters together.
meow
killanator
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States549 Posts
July 01 2009 06:19 GMT
#76
i believe in aliens. the fact is there are basically infinite planets, at least 1 planet has to have at least single-celled organisms, and most likely some planet has something more intelligent then us. As far as UFOs, i wouldnt be surprised to find they are real. Lets face it, we are curious about life on other planets as well. Them sending flying saucers here to study us is about the same as us sending a rover to mars, except a much more advanced way. As for abductions and all that, again there could be a legitimate case or 2 of it(yes if we found life less intelligent then us we woluld study it to) but most of those people are just on something and/or crying forn attention
DJ, put it back on!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 01 2009 06:19 GMT
#77
I believe in aliens, they are out their. It is either we find them first your they find us first
Terran
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
July 01 2009 06:22 GMT
#78
Same way my friends brother didnt believe wow had more than 1 million subscribers.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
BC.KoRn
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada567 Posts
July 01 2009 06:23 GMT
#79
Earth was created by Aliens, they are watching our development and growth. We are nothing more than lab rats to them. And in time we will do the same thing.
BC.KoRn
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada567 Posts
July 01 2009 06:25 GMT
#80
Aren't Asians aliens?
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