Well, I tried switching to terran and I absolutely couldn't believe the utter lack of help I received in comparison to zerg. At first, I thought this was because terran was a super hard race for newbs to learn but it turns out most people agree that zerg is the hardest race to learn. So then I thought zergs like to help because they're a hard race to learn so there's many opportunites to help. Then, after reading the Artosis "ask me about terran" topic, I found this was simply not the case. Don't take it as in insult or anything but there simply aren't that many good guides out there for terran. It seems like terrans like to keep secrets to themselves

More and more, I've come to appreciate the strategy forum for helping zerg players so much. Thank you for your generosity in comparison to the other races!!

Oh, and if you were wondering about Protoss, I think they're generally in between zerg and terran in terms of helpful players.

Chill

Calgary25954 Posts

March 18 2009 16:26 GMT

Yes Zerg is the hardest race to learn. If people are at a reasonable level I really like helping them because I know how long it takes to learn from experience only.

nttea

Sweden4353 Posts

March 18 2009 16:27 GMT

Yes, that is because us zerg considers ourselves as a complete entity, one players success and failures are the hive's own succeeds and failures. This collective superiority stands in sharp contrast with the terrans inferior every-man-for-himself mindset.

Zyarktodt

United States67 Posts

March 18 2009 16:28 GMT

On March 19 2009 01:27 nttea wrote:
Yes, that is because us zerg considers ourselves as a complete entity, one players success and failures are the hive's own succeeds and failures. This collective superiority stands in sharp contrast with the terrans inferior every-man-for-himself mindset.

Then why is there only one overmind(dominant player) at a time?

animus123

United States171 Posts

March 18 2009 16:30 GMT

On March 19 2009 01:28 Zyarktodt wrote:

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Then why is there only one overmind(dominant player) at a time?

There can be only one......

sLiMpoweR

United States430 Posts

March 18 2009 16:33 GMT

4sh5sh6sh7sh there u learned zerg

Phyre

United States1288 Posts

March 18 2009 16:38 GMT

Have you seen Stylish's FPVod thread for Terrans? That's probably the most help I've ever seen for any race period.

SkepTicAL

Canada872 Posts

March 18 2009 16:39 GMT

How many good foreign terrans can you name off that are active in the community.

Lq_ fAn

Lithuania154 Posts

March 18 2009 16:42 GMT

On March 19 2009 01:33 gophillies3939 wrote:
4sh5sh6sh7sh there u learned zerg

you know jeadong had and have insane mechanics but he was just regular progamer but know he's a beast and not because of 4sh5sh6sh.....

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

March 18 2009 16:45 GMT

#10

ZvT is especially hard to learn, in ZvP and ZvZ you can get away if you have a single strategy, but against T it is a lor harder, because you would have to scout a lot more beacause of the unorthodox strtegies, but your overlord cannot scout in the T base. Also TvZ timings are much more deadlier than the pvz ones (imo), and a T can break out from a contain much more easely (+dual dropships/elevator with a single dropship, which looks just unfair sometimes)

hazz

United Kingdom570 Posts

March 18 2009 16:51 GMT

#11

On March 19 2009 01:28 Zyarktodt wrote:

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Then why is there only one overmind(dominant player) at a time?

its a hierarchy, we are part of the swarm but there must be 1 cerebrate who has truly mastered all aspects of zerg and commands the swarm through replays and vods

sLiMpoweR

United States430 Posts

March 18 2009 17:02 GMT

#12

On March 19 2009 01:42 Lq_ fAn wrote:

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you know jeadong had and have insane mechanics but he was just regular progamer but know he's a beast and not because of 4sh5sh6sh.....

hehe yea i was just joking

however i think terran is alot harder to learn then zerg

and iv played random for over 9 years now so its just my opinion

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

March 18 2009 17:08 GMT

#13

I don't know I just 4sz5sz6sz my way to victory

StylishVODs

Sweden5331 Posts

March 18 2009 17:16 GMT

#14

Naib

Hungary4843 Posts

March 18 2009 17:28 GMT

#15

Soo, now that 1a2a3a is a bannable offense, everyone just replaces it with zerg hotkey signatures? Sounds "funny" to me!

Zerg takes a different approach than Terran or Protoss, thus one could argue it's harder. Maybe not if your insticts are fine-tuned for the zerg economy management, but that's a rare case I'd say.

StRyKeR

United States1739 Posts

March 18 2009 17:29 GMT

#16

I think it's because we're underdogs in every ZvT matchup, even if it's the current most dominating Zerg player at the match up like Jaedong. We all have this anti-T angst and we let it out by helping as many Zergs as possible. There's also the map imbalance that no other race can really understand. Protoss have recently started bitching about Tears of the Moon as if Protoss deserved a better map pool, not understanding the shitfest of maps that Zergs have to deal with, every map which is basically pro-T. Baekmagoji, Sin Chupung-Ryeong, Rush Hour, etc., and in the best case the map is balanced.

And don't bring up maps like Blue Storm because that's like one exception out of like 20.

Tensai176

Canada2061 Posts

March 18 2009 17:40 GMT

#17

When I played Terran a long while ago, I was struggling until I read ToT_Daze's Strategy guides on Terran and some of his reps. My play increased DRASTICALLY. You might wanna read up on that if you're still sticking with Terran. It's on TL but I'm not sure where exactly it is =/

Hot_Bid

Braavos36362 Posts

March 18 2009 17:45 GMT

#18

i like making drones and thats why i play zerg

lololol

5198 Posts

March 18 2009 18:02 GMT

#19

Clearly, the OP is a racist.

Hans-Titan

Denmark1711 Posts

March 18 2009 18:07 GMT

#20

There, ZvP uptill C- is now complete. Everytime I, D+, face something like this, exectuted just somewhat I get completely annihilated. Listen to the timings, the strats, the thoughts - it's an awesome build for low level ZvP.
In fact check out all Chills FPVoD's, a good place to start.