He was mentally checked out after the 3rd game lol. That drone trick was cool though. I haven't watched many proleagues lately so don't know if any Zerg has used it before?

United States2852 Posts

October 21 2024 11:39 GMT

#72

PvZ

Souden

34 Posts

October 21 2024 11:42 GMT

#73

Poor Snow

he just can't do well in offline tournaments.. Must have been really nervous, his control was way off.

Simplistik

1891 Posts

October 21 2024 11:43 GMT

#74

Well, this ASL hasn't really delivered so far, has it?
A few good games, but mostly meh.

Rainalcar

Croatia349 Posts

October 21 2024 11:47 GMT

#75

On October 21 2024 20:43 Simplistik wrote:
Well, this ASL hasn't really delivered so far, has it?
A few good games, but mostly meh.

The maps were a complete blah. No courage from mapmakers, pushback from pros who only want to play the same things over and over again. We lose, and BW scene in general too.

foxmeep

Australia2320 Posts

October 21 2024 11:49 GMT

#76

On October 21 2024 20:42 Souden wrote:
Poor Snow

he just can't do well in offline tournaments.. Must have been really nervous, his control was way off.

I mean he still made semis so that's not a bad effort, it's just that Soulkey is insane. Won last 2 ASLs, probably wins this one since there is no Zerg left.

United States2852 Posts

October 21 2024 11:51 GMT

#77

When I watch PvZ at the highest level, like SSL. It looks so fucking impossible to have any consistency in winning. I just see the top Protoss' take these maaaaaaassive risks over and over because it seems like they have just accepted that is their best chance against top-tier Zergs. Trying to just play straight up is just a fools errand. Mini seems to be the guy whom has found the most success in ASL's vs Z in the last 5+ years and if you really watch his builds, he takes more gambles than anyone. It's wild what this matchup has devolved into at the top of the scene over the past few years.

[sc1f]eonzerg

Belgium6439 Posts

October 21 2024 11:51 GMT

#78

On October 21 2024 20:47 Rainalcar wrote:

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The maps were a complete blah. No courage from mapmakers, pushback from pros who only want to play the same things over and over again. We lose, and BW scene in general too.

The funny part is that not one is happy with the maps. Apart from Terran players maybe. They just choke and cant win in their dream maps either..

Rainalcar

Croatia349 Posts

October 21 2024 11:54 GMT

#79

On October 21 2024 20:51 G5 wrote:
When I watch PvZ at the highest level, like SSL. It looks so fucking impossible to have any consistency in winning. I just see the top Protoss' take these maaaaaaassive risks over and over because it seems like they have just accepted that is their best chance against top-tier Zergs. Trying to just play straight up is just a fools errand. Mini seems to be the guy whom has found the most success in ASL's vs Z in the last 5+ years and if you really watch his builds, he takes more gambles than anyone. It's wild what this matchup has devolved into at the top of the scene over the past few years.

Exactly this. It's impossible to dominate PvZ no matter who you are. I will just add that P gambles are actually DEFENSIVE - it's just to stay alive and gain some advantage. P virtually has no offensive gambles v Z - how often do you see 2 gate or proxy cannons giving easy wins? 2 gate is almost an auto loss these days, proxy cannon is super situational. On the other hand, Z can move super easily from pressure that easily wins games to a normal mid game sooo often.

Peeano

Netherlands4652 Posts

October 21 2024 11:57 GMT

#80

First match this season I could make time for to watch live. I'll still be a Snow fan, but next time I'll skip a Snow PvZ series.

Does Sharp even have any good buddies to practice TvZ with? Same for Rain PvZ?
Seems like another gold for Soulkey.