• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:32
CEST 13:32
KST 20:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy0GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding0Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Korean words The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2526 users

[SSL Autumn] Ro4 Day 1 - Page 3

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
October 21 2024 11:06 GMT
#41
Brutal. It would be a miracle if Snow can reverse sweep this.
FBH #1!
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
October 21 2024 11:07 GMT
#42
why doesn't protoss make dark archon? are they stupid?
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia427 Posts
October 21 2024 11:09 GMT
#43
PvZ imbalance, and P being so visibly the weakest race historically, is making me consider tempering the time I spend following BW scene. It's becoming too repetitive, too tiresome, and worst of all, too predictable.

User was warned for this post.
j.r.r.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
October 21 2024 11:10 GMT
#44
On October 21 2024 20:09 Rainalcar wrote:
PvZ imbalance, and P being so visibly the weakest race historically, is making me consider tempering the time I spend following BW scene. It's becoming too repetitive, too tiresome, and worst of all, too predictable.


ok enjoy watching sc2
...oh wait toss is also shit there lmao
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-21 11:11:56
October 21 2024 11:10 GMT
#45
I didn't watch the opening to game 3. How did we end up with Zerg on 4 bases while Protoss having a bunch of Zealots and unused Cannons? A ling run by that killed probes at the beginning or something?
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
October 21 2024 11:11 GMT
#46
Protoss needs to keep 3-4 sairs alive, a dark archon with maelstrom or at least a body guard archon for the HTs. Mutas simply don't care about goon shots when sniping HTs. Storm can also easily be dodged or hit your own units.
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2114 Posts
October 21 2024 11:12 GMT
#47
On October 21 2024 20:09 Rainalcar wrote:
PvZ imbalance, and P being so visibly the weakest race historically, is making me consider tempering the time I spend following BW scene. It's becoming too repetitive, too tiresome, and worst of all, too predictable.

At this stage of the game, the only way the balance changes is via the maps.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3132 Posts
October 21 2024 11:13 GMT
#48
On October 21 2024 20:11 Peeano wrote:
Protoss needs to keep 3-4 sairs alive, a dark archon with maelstrom or at least a body guard archon for the HTs. Mutas simply don't care about goon shots when sniping HTs. Storm can also easily be dodged or hit your own units.

The HT snipe was just icing on the cake. At that point they were on equal supply and 2 to 4 bases. Game was already lost. The question is how did it go to that state.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
October 21 2024 11:14 GMT
#49
On October 21 2024 20:10 TMNT wrote:
I didn't watch the opening to game 3. How did we end up with Zerg on 4 bases while Protoss having a bunch of Zealots and unused Cannons? A ling run by that killed probes at the beginning or something?

Snow being unable to get any overlord kills or any decent damage with zealots. 1 of the 2 DTs killed 1 drone...
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2114 Posts
October 21 2024 11:14 GMT
#50
On October 21 2024 20:10 TMNT wrote:
I didn't watch the opening to game 3. How did we end up with Zerg on 4 bases while Protoss having a bunch of Zealots and unused Cannons? A ling run by that killed probes at the beginning or something?

No, 8 lings preventing scouting, fast hydras to contain, lots of cannons, forge sniped before upgrade, then Snow tries a speed zealot attack, but they mostly die to hydras. And then SK can comfortably power.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2114 Posts
October 21 2024 11:15 GMT
#51
Yeah, 2 DT's lost for 1 drone, and the 2 corsairs got 1 overlord?
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2114 Posts
October 21 2024 11:16 GMT
#52
Sadly, I cannot imagine Snow pulling himself out of this one mentally. All very depressing for Protoss fans to watch.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia427 Posts
October 21 2024 11:19 GMT
#53
On October 21 2024 20:12 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2024 20:09 Rainalcar wrote:
PvZ imbalance, and P being so visibly the weakest race historically, is making me consider tempering the time I spend following BW scene. It's becoming too repetitive, too tiresome, and worst of all, too predictable.

At this stage of the game, the only way the balance changes is via the maps.


We tried this for 20 plus years, unsuccessfully imo. We only ever got to t>>z>>p>t. Or, we do an island map season which is completely p favoured. I don't see a single "new" great P player, like soma or speed. It's completely stale.
j.r.r.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3132 Posts
October 21 2024 11:20 GMT
#54
On October 21 2024 20:14 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2024 20:10 TMNT wrote:
I didn't watch the opening to game 3. How did we end up with Zerg on 4 bases while Protoss having a bunch of Zealots and unused Cannons? A ling run by that killed probes at the beginning or something?

No, 8 lings preventing scouting, fast hydras to contain, lots of cannons, forge sniped before upgrade, then Snow tries a speed zealot attack, but they mostly die to hydras. And then SK can comfortably power.

Ah so the classic Hydra bust but Zerg doesn't commit, leaving Protoss over building Cannons for safety but then it becomes 1000 minerals down the toilet.

But then if you cancel your cannons then things like game 1 happen lmao.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
October 21 2024 11:22 GMT
#55
On October 21 2024 20:13 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2024 20:11 Peeano wrote:
Protoss needs to keep 3-4 sairs alive, a dark archon with maelstrom or at least a body guard archon for the HTs. Mutas simply don't care about goon shots when sniping HTs. Storm can also easily be dodged or hit your own units.

The HT snipe was just icing on the cake. At that point they were on equal supply and 2 to 4 bases. Game was already lost. The question is how did it go to that state.

Whether it's icing on the cake isn't really relevant to what we see time and time again. Goon/Zeal has 0 chance vs mass hydra. HTs or Reavers can't be sniped unpunished, nor can sairs be sacrificed unless P is miles ahead and can use that psi better as ground units.
FBH #1!
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2540 Posts
October 21 2024 11:23 GMT
#56
mythic rare white/black/asian fan trio spotted.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
October 21 2024 11:26 GMT
#57
-2 drones. Nice. Now just defend, Snow!
FBH #1!
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2540 Posts
October 21 2024 11:30 GMT
#58
welp 4-0 hydra bust rip
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
October 21 2024 11:30 GMT
#59
this map is going exactly how I predicted lol
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
October 21 2024 11:30 GMT
#60
Just pre-emptively put those probes at the damn wall, prevent more lings from coming in and keep that damn cannon alive... It's like I watched Best get owned this series lol
FBH #1!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#4
RotterdaM298
TKL 141
SteadfastSC64
Rex54
Liquipedia
Replay Cast
09:00
KungFu Cup 2026 Week 3
CranKy Ducklings120
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 298
Lowko166
TKL 141
SortOf 122
ProTech110
SteadfastSC 64
Livibee 61
Rex 54
Codebar 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4234
Horang2 1189
Bisu 917
Jaedong 909
Shuttle 331
Hyuk 286
Stork 255
Larva 229
Aegong 228
actioN 206
[ Show more ]
Light 156
Mini 147
Rush 146
Snow 142
Bale 140
Soma 132
EffOrt 128
Pusan 126
Last 104
scan(afreeca) 92
Leta 83
910 75
ZerO 70
PianO 62
ggaemo 61
Hyun 49
hero 48
Shinee 39
ToSsGirL 35
Backho 35
sSak 31
Sharp 28
HiyA 19
Terrorterran 16
zelot 16
soO 15
Shine 12
Barracks 12
SilentControl 11
Movie 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
GoRush 7
Dota 2
Gorgc2282
XaKoH 496
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2837
x6flipin364
edward92
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King124
Other Games
singsing1765
Liquid`RaSZi1069
B2W.Neo504
crisheroes348
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL10336
Other Games
gamesdonequick654
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1571
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 29m
The PondCast
22h 29m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 12h
WardiTV Team League
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.