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Calgary25954 Posts
On December 23 2022 06:47 BreAKerTV wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2022 21:57 Chill wrote:
Hope you can move past this and wish you all the best.
All your blog posts, especially this one, come across as extremely self-entitled. In the interest of self growth, you might want to reflect on that and and revist these situations though others' viewpoint. This blog post makes me side with everyone you've interacted with over you, despite you trying to paint them with negativity. I see you bothering everyone for connections and opportunities while bringing very little to the table. You talk about what others "could" have done for you, but it's always out of the kindness of their hearts. Why would they introduce you to other organizations? What's the benefit to them risking their reputation for you? I personally would have done exactly what everyone did to you - be friendly and polite and keep you at arm's length. I suppose there have been too many moments where I let what others say / said influence my thinking and didn't think to myself, "What would be best for me? in 5 years or 10 years."
What's the opposite of self-reflection? Because that's what this is.
Do you have any anecdotes that back this statement up? Because from your last decade of blogging it seems like that is literally all you thought about.
Let's do a thought experiment and imagine that this happened to someone else? like let's say the people at pro league weren't mad at nathanias and he was told the same thing and acted the same but kept his personality and the same thing happened to him, what would you say then?
I don't understand this thought experiment so I'll tell you a personal story.
In 2009 I was in Korea for a few months. I hung out with Artosis and Tasteless and others a bunch. It was a really amazing time. I had so much fun. I was young and staying in random places around town and some nights Artosis let me sleep on his floor.
In 2012 I visited Korea again. Artosis and Tasteless were now casting together. I went to go watch a broadcast. I hoped they would want to grab drinks afterwards, but if they didn't it would have made total sense and I wouldn't have felt anything negative - I hadn't seen them in years and everyone was now in different places in our lives. Also, I was on a trip but this was just a typical workday for them.
But I absolutely didn't ask them if I could cast with them or ask for a connection to start an interview - that would have made me a lunatic. Even thinking about that now makes me feel weird and uncomfortable. When you read your screenshot text do you feel uncomfortable?
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Because the casting world seems like somewhat of the wild west on what it takes to get gigs and network and have politics and popularity involved ect… I think you approached it with a very abrasive and aggressive approach rather than letting things develop organically… on your YouTube channel I don’t see any starcraft casts, I’m not sure if they’re on a separate channel but in my mind if you were getting the views organically on YouTube that would reflect to yourself that you could generate viewership, more importantly this would obviously be appetizing to event hosts to have you cast. I think you were ambitious with your goals but may have taken an approach that burned more bridges than created. In all honesty relying on casting gigs for a career seems like a stressful job in the sense that gigs are few and far between and the pool for potential commentators is large and experienced
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On December 23 2022 06:47 BreAKerTV wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2022 21:57 Chill wrote:
Hope you can move past this and wish you all the best.
All your blog posts, especially this one, come across as extremely self-entitled. In the interest of self growth, you might want to reflect on that and and revist these situations though others' viewpoint. This blog post makes me side with everyone you've interacted with over you, despite you trying to paint them with negativity. I see you bothering everyone for connections and opportunities while bringing very little to the table. You talk about what others "could" have done for you, but it's always out of the kindness of their hearts. Why would they introduce you to other organizations? What's the benefit to them risking their reputation for you? I personally would have done exactly what everyone did to you - be friendly and polite and keep you at arm's length. I suppose there have been too many moments where I let what others say / said influence my thinking and didn't think to myself, "What would be best for me? in 5 years or 10 years." The TL;Dr of 2012-2016 was imagine a millennial as naive as SpongeBob and as selfish as Mr krabs. That was me. Let's do a thought experiment and imagine that this happened to someone else? like let's say the people at pro league weren't mad at nathanias and he was told the same thing and acted the same but kept his personality and the same thing happened to him, what would you say then? Like I said in the O.P. I'm not even angry about it anymore. The things that made me angry are the things I haven't posted here: Blizzard forcing every tournament organizer to buy broadcasting licenses if the prize pool surpassed 10k usd, or if they had televised the tournament in question. I know people who lost jobs because of that. I am slightly disappointed in myself for not realizing how dumb I was for going through with this venture from 2012 forward. alas I digress. I won't be looking for casting opportunities based on what happened to me in 2012, the lack or professional hiring, and the things I've seen happen with my own two eyes. I might have a follow up blog on a completely separate incident sooner or later.
yeah definitely doesn’t sound like resentment
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How many viewers did you usually have on twitch?
There are very few of these big casting gigs around so don't take it too hard you didn't end up getting one.
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Northern Ireland23297 Posts
Hey it’s a brutal industry that hasn’t quite matured into having the various pathways for people to break into certain roles without connections.
And there’s only so much content that needs casted. You wouldn’t be the first guy whose content I enjoyed that didn’t push through to those bigger gigs.
No shame in that, I don’t think you’ve processed/dealt with that in the most healthy way, equally I do have a degree of sympathy and understanding where that comes from.
Best of luck with whatever you’re doing now and next man
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On December 24 2022 03:26 castleeMg wrote:
Because the casting world seems like somewhat of the wild west on what it takes to get gigs and network and have politics and popularity involved ect… I think you approached it with a very abrasive and aggressive approach rather than letting things develop organically…
On December 24 2022 08:29 WombaT wrote:
Hey it’s a brutal industry that hasn’t quite matured into having the various pathways for people to break into certain roles without connections.
hiring processes are BS every where. Welcome to the free market economy. I'd say the author of the blog lacked life experience at the start of his casting journey. Now he has some life experience and perspective.
An example in another industry...
The 2 best baseball minds of the past 50 years were forced to take the most horrible jobs. Hiring processes in Major League Baseball and baseball in general are total BS. No one wanted to hire them. They rose above it and absolutely crushed and rofl-stomped their competition.
Gentlemen,
Welcome to the real world.
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Canada11218 Posts
On December 24 2022 08:29 WombaT wrote:
Hey it’s a brutal industry that hasn’t quite matured into having the various pathways for people to break into certain roles without connections.
And there’s only so much content that needs casted. You wouldn’t be the first guy whose content I enjoyed that didn’t push through to those bigger gigs.
No shame in that
Very much this. And at the end of the day... did anyone actually make a sustained living casting the Chinese scene? I'm super out of the loop with SC2 even before viewership went down, but I have a hunch that no-one did. The first advice Artosis was bang on: it's freaking tough job to do. There is not currently interest and if you want to cast for Taiwan, you have to create your own interest- build a market that doesn't exist by becoming an expert on the scene and to educate Starcraft fans and build your own hype over a scene where Starcraft fandom is already saturated with tourney coverage. The fact that (I think) no-one has done it probably has less to do with any supposed 'getting screwed'. Even were you the second coming of Day9 or Tastosis and had the supposed old boys connections, would we be seeing a thriving English shout-casting scene in Taiwan? Who the heck knows. But if it never really took off for anyone...
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I wanna thank everyone on the second page here for being chill and cool. I was expecting to come back here to people figuratively ripping me a new one. Like I said, I'm not even angry about this now (although at the time it made me think pretty savage thoughts), and when I was angry about this, several years ago, I thought to myself, "NDAs about this kind of drama usually last 3 years, so I'll just wait until way longer than that to talk about it.“
On December 24 2022 07:41 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
How many viewers did you usually have on twitch?
There are very few of these big casting gigs around so don't take it too hard you didn't end up getting one.
The first time I got a ton of viewers from a cast was an online tournament sen was playing in. I peaked over 2.5k concurrents in 2 days back in 2012. After that, I tried to cast anything I could in (very broken, now much better) Mandarin. Then one day one of the tournaments I was casting in Mandarin suddenly had their English caster (I forget who it was at the time) disappear on them, so they asked me to step up to it and I was a bit excited because I didn't know how many people will watch. I think that day I had 3k viewers watching me cast and 4k the following day? Back then I was running the ESLTaiwan channel on twitch. The thing that I loved about it was explaining to everyone in the audience what was going on in game like they were my best friend trying to learn more about the game.
Other days anything would ruin a cast for me: illness, and the day after TWOP 2014, I nearly forgot I had to cast while I was really hungover from partying with tasteless and artosis. That day I sucked and I could see it in the twitch chat, but the next day I was perfectly sober and everything went great. Overall I would say good casts / bad casts came at 40 / 60. I also battled depression over the years (was diagnosed at 16), and sometimes that would show in my personality while casting. These last few years have been pretty good to me though and I've had more control over my thoughts.
On days when I was just streaming myself on the ladder, maybe I would have 50 concurrent viewers.
On December 24 2022 03:26 castleeMg wrote:
Because the casting world seems like somewhat of the wild west on what it takes to get gigs and network and have politics and popularity involved ect… I think you approached it with a very abrasive and aggressive approach rather than letting things develop organically… on your YouTube channel I don’t see any starcraft casts, I’m not sure if they’re on a separate channel but in my mind if you were getting the views organically on YouTube that would reflect to yourself that you could generate viewership, more importantly this would obviously be appetizing to event hosts to have you cast. I think you were ambitious with your goals but may have taken an approach that burned more bridges than created. In all honesty relying on casting gigs for a career seems like a stressful job in the sense that gigs are few and far between and the pool for potential commentators is large and experienced
I think the last time I tried to cast starcraft was probably 2016 on twitch, but by the time I was in Korea I had 300 VODs on my channel? None of them got an amazing amount of views.
https://www.youtube.com/@BingeHD720/search?query=starcraft - sorry, I would've gone through it all in "chronological order" but the problem is youtube's updates make it harder to find your older videos.
On December 24 2022 10:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I'd say the author of the blog lacked life experience at the start of his casting journey. Now he has some life experience and perspective.
Basically this. I was extremely naive as well. I think from 2013 until 2017 I happened upon 4 life-changing offers. One was a total scam, and I'm dumb for falling for it, and I'll take the L on that (nowhere in this blog did I mention it). And the last one was something I was in the right skype group for, but I didn't meet the expectations of the organizer.
An example in another industry...
The 2 best baseball minds of the past 50 years were forced to take the most horrible jobs. Hiring processes in Major League Baseball and baseball in general are total BS. No one wanted to hire them. They rose above it and absolutely crushed and rofl-stomped their competition.
Gentlemen,
Welcome to the real world.
I would love to know more about this story. Do you have a link to a video or news article or something?
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On December 24 2022 18:04 BreAKerTV wrote:
I wanna thank everyone on the second page here for being chill and cool. I was expecting to come back here to people figuratively ripping me a new one.
Perhaps think about why this happened. As much as you claim now in follow-up posts that you are just sharing a story you used to be emotional about several years ago, you wrote the first post like some grand dishing of horrible dirt on some big names. You had at best a sliver of complaint against Tumba, and told me yourself that Tastosis were only relevant as people who could corroborate your story about the one thing there might have been something to. Yet what was the tl;dr you provided to your original post, in bold font?
TL;DR - You could say the agent of Tastetosis, Brendan Valdez, Tastetosis, and Tumba, conspired to steal my job while I let them
You blatantly told a slanted story to try to manipulate teamliquid readers into hating/doubting a bunch of big names out of jealousy, and still want to act like it was unfair that you got called out on that. Just as your first post was pretty transparent, so is your damage control after it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you got some replies that were more even-handed. We're (almost) all here because we love Starcraft, and a goal to professionally cast the game is a relatable one. Picking up another language to cast in is very impressive, too.
...let's just not pretend that this wasn't a hit piece. You even say in the title that you're "retiring" even though you've been doing data science work for the last 5 years, and actually talk later in-thread about possibly returning to casting that you've been away from. So not only did you try to distort events into a hit piece, you kinda actually then clickbaited people into that hit piece.
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On December 24 2022 19:29 Turbovolver wrote:Perhaps think about why this happened. As much as you claim now in follow-up posts that you are just sharing a story you used to be emotional about several years ago, you wrote the first post like some grand dishing of horrible dirt on some big names. You had at best a sliver of complaint against Tumba, and told me yourself that Tastosis were only relevant as people who could corroborate your story about the one thing there might have been something to. Yet what was the tl;dr you provided to your original post, in bold font? Show nested quote +TL;DR - You could say the agent of Tastetosis, Brendan Valdez, Tastetosis, and Tumba, conspired to steal my job while I let them
Sorry so in one of the comments on the front page I mentioned how naive I was. At the time when all of this was happening, I thought Tumba had connections to KESPA / Tournament Organizers. Instead his "connection" was Tastosis, and they had the connection(s) to Kespa / Tournament Organizers in Korea.
So it went Tumba -> Tastosis -> Kespa / tournament organizers when I thought it was Tumba -> tournament organizers. In one of the calls I had with him, he said he would, "Introduce me to Tasteless and Artosis." and at the time I had no idea what that meant.
Something that I didn't mention until now is how it would have made much more sense to hire/rehire whiplash (that guy who casted the DoTA 2 League in Korea in 2014). Since I was "in the dark" at the time, and I didn't know everything that was going on behind the scenes in Korea, I only knew that there would be demand for 1 new caster.
Another reason why I heard Brendan got hired was that Azubu got him some kind of an actor/entertainer visa (https://overseas.mofa.go.kr/gb-en/brd/m_20265/view.do?seq=669268) that has very lax work regulations for in Korea. Others I talked to that said they had interviewed with the guys running SPO TV Pro League, who then were told by the guys running SPO TV Pro League, "We can't get you a visa, so maybe you will need to get a visa here as an English teacher."
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On December 24 2022 18:04 BreAKerTV wrote:I wanna thank everyone on the second page here for being chill and cool. I was expecting to come back here to people figuratively ripping me a new one. Like I said, I'm not even angry about this now (although at the time it made me think pretty savage thoughts), and when I was angry about this, several years ago, I thought to myself, "NDAs about this kind of drama usually last 3 years, so I'll just wait until way longer than that to talk about it.“ Show nested quote +On December 24 2022 07:41 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
How many viewers did you usually have on twitch?
There are very few of these big casting gigs around so don't take it too hard you didn't end up getting one. The first time I got a ton of viewers from a cast was an online tournament sen was playing in. I peaked over 2.5k concurrents in 2 days back in 2012. After that, I tried to cast anything I could in (very broken, now much better) Mandarin. Then one day one of the tournaments I was casting in Mandarin suddenly had their English caster (I forget who it was at the time) disappear on them, so they asked me to step up to it and I was a bit excited because I didn't know how many people will watch. I think that day I had 3k viewers watching me cast and 4k the following day? Back then I was running the ESLTaiwan channel on twitch. The thing that I loved about it was explaining to everyone in the audience what was going on in game like they were my best friend trying to learn more about the game. Other days anything would ruin a cast for me: illness, and the day after TWOP 2014, I nearly forgot I had to cast while I was really hungover from partying with tasteless and artosis. That day I sucked and I could see it in the twitch chat, but the next day I was perfectly sober and everything went great. Overall I would say good casts / bad casts came at 40 / 60. I also battled depression over the years (was diagnosed at 16), and sometimes that would show in my personality while casting. These last few years have been pretty good to me though and I've had more control over my thoughts. On days when I was just streaming myself on the ladder, maybe I would have 50 concurrent viewers. Show nested quote +On December 24 2022 03:26 castleeMg wrote:
Because the casting world seems like somewhat of the wild west on what it takes to get gigs and network and have politics and popularity involved ect… I think you approached it with a very abrasive and aggressive approach rather than letting things develop organically… on your YouTube channel I don’t see any starcraft casts, I’m not sure if they’re on a separate channel but in my mind if you were getting the views organically on YouTube that would reflect to yourself that you could generate viewership, more importantly this would obviously be appetizing to event hosts to have you cast. I think you were ambitious with your goals but may have taken an approach that burned more bridges than created. In all honesty relying on casting gigs for a career seems like a stressful job in the sense that gigs are few and far between and the pool for potential commentators is large and experienced I think the last time I tried to cast starcraft was probably 2016 on twitch, but by the time I was in Korea I had 300 VODs on my channel? None of them got an amazing amount of views. https://www.youtube.com/@BingeHD720/search?query=starcraft - sorry, I would've gone through it all in "chronological order" but the problem is youtube's updates make it harder to find your older videos. Show nested quote +On December 24 2022 10:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I'd say the author of the blog lacked life experience at the start of his casting journey. Now he has some life experience and perspective. Basically this. I was extremely naive as well. I think from 2013 until 2017 I happened upon 4 life-changing offers. One was a total scam, and I'm dumb for falling for it, and I'll take the L on that (nowhere in this blog did I mention it). And the last one was something I was in the right skype group for, but I didn't meet the expectations of the organizer. Show nested quote +
An example in another industry...
The 2 best baseball minds of the past 50 years were forced to take the most horrible jobs. Hiring processes in Major League Baseball and baseball in general are total BS. No one wanted to hire them. They rose above it and absolutely crushed and rofl-stomped their competition.
Gentlemen,
Welcome to the real world.
I would love to know more about this story. Do you have a link to a video or news article or something?
Pat Gillick and Andrew Friedman have been the best baseball minds of the past 50 years. Both men got their first management jobs with teams that had zero financial resources. Furthermore, the ball parks the teams owned were the worst in the league. No free agent players wanted to play on the teams. Both turned their teams into perennial winners.
In the 130+ year history of baseball there are only 4 non-owners who never played top league baseball that are in major league baseball's Hall of Fame. One of those 4 is Pat Gillick. The best job he could get was as an assistant for the horrible 1977 Toronto Blue Jays.
Same story for Andrew Friedman. The best job he could get was with the really super-bad 2003 Tampa Bay Devil Rays. He is currently the #1 mind in baseball.
Hiring is just fucked every where for a myriad of reasons. I suggest accepting this fact as a fundamental condition of the free market system and move forward as best you can with this knowledge.
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On December 24 2022 01:51 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2022 02:22 BreAKerTV wrote:
paid for Tasteless and Artosis. Artosis definitely knew I wanted this event. I am truly shocked that the SC2 event paid for Tastosis to cast it and that they, professional casters, took the gig. However what really matters here is if you called dibs. You say Artosis knew you wanted the event but there was no obligation for him to turn down the gig and give it to you unless you had, in writing, called dibs. If you hadn’t then I don’t think you have a leg to stand on, legally speaking.
Wait hold on, no one mentioned dibs being involved.There were actual dibs called? That changes the whole thing!
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I remember your TL blogs from the past. I don't know how good you are at casting but based on these blogs, if I were Tastosis from the past I would have wanted to keep you at a distance too.
When experienced people hire someone they look for their behaviour and character first before their ability, because a humble noob could be coached but a skillful but hard headed person will always be impossible to work with.
Now that it's over and you're moving on, I hope you at least take this as an opportunity to learn by reflecting on what other wise people have said. I wish you all the best.
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United Kingdom12021 Posts
The only thing I'll say is nepotism/cronyism and connections are definitely one of the only ways you'll ever get anywhere in pretty much any industry without any form of protections for employees and the esports scene, even streaming in general is absolutely terrible right now for that. The whole industry in general is just absolutely cutthroat and the amount of horrible stories that comes out of the esports and streaming industries are enough to prove how awful it is.
It's at a point where realistically it's still relatively new and unless you're already an established name or manage to cuddle up with an established name you may as well not even bother. The whole thing is obscenely top heavy and the idea of a small streamer making it big anymore on their own is basically impossible - even big streamers have said the same thing. I can't imagine the streamer generation will last forever though, it's definitely in a bubble. Although maybe society has hit a point where now streamers can make more money than movie stars and that's just normal and will be forever? Maybe people thought that about Hollywood when it started to become big.
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1. "I'm not angry about this" in basically every post.
2. Also comes off incredibly butthurt about the whole thing in every post.
Gee, somehow I'm struggling to believe your narrative that you aren't mad, that you've grown as a person, and that you got cheated out of a career in casting.
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BreAKerTV I hope you can take the comments and feedback people are posting, to get ideas on how you could approach social situations differently going forward. Bringing all of this up a good 8yr after it all happened certainly doesn't seem like a "I'm over it" move. If you're bringing it up, it still clearly bothers you. And, the move of bringing it up itself, shows that you still have some of the same personality & social skills shortcomings. So overall I think it's promising, because you now have a chance to learn some stuff.
A repeated theme is 'The Social Side of Business Skills'. Learning more skills in this are can really help you have more success overall in life, both professionally and also relationally.
Practice the ingredients that make up Popularity: How to be pleasant, how to be and come off as a calm stable trust-able guy
Get more feedback like this more often to develop social awareness and tact. I'll use a gaming analogy: top players have 'map sense' and 'game sense'; from just a few signals (e.g. scout timing, lack of attack at certain timings) they can accurately infer a lot of other info. This needs to also happen in social situations. It comes from having played lots of matches, and having gotten good advice and feedback to learn what signals to look for and what is the standard way to interpret them.
Now, I'm not particularly good at this myself, but I'll give it a shot for what you've posted:
Firstly, read everything Chill has written very carefully. I think it is very endearing that he's taken time to pop by and give you some feedback. It speaks to the good quality of the people in our SC community.
Second, make clear distinctions between preferences and obligations. It seems like all the situations you've described were preferences. In your feelings, you wanted to get this or that gig, you wanted people to give you free job referrals, you wanted their input, you wanted there to be more tourney spots etc.
But none of those were obligations. None had clear agreements, contracts signed, guarantees etc. If you had obligation agreements, and those were broken, that'd be cause for resentment. But if it was merely preferences that's cause for little more than personal feelings of disappointment.
Your posts read like someone with strong feelings of disappointment and resentment, which brings us to our 3nd point:
Distinguish between things you feel that other people are responsible for, and things you feel that you yourself are responsible for. If other people treated you fairly and normally (which it seems they have), then it is not fair or reasonable for you to feel that the disappointments you faced are their fault. No, the problem there is you. If you feel bad when people treat you normally, then its your turn to develop your confidence and life abilities, to not feel bad in those situations. They weren't responsible for giving you advice, for stepping aside for you to get some limelight, or for making your casting career happen. Thus if you feel bad and resent them for 'failing' to do things that they weren't responsible for doing, you are being the unfair one, and those feelings are not sensible for fairly calibrated.
Overall I hope you can learn more social awareness, can develop as a person to have more confidence and life ability to get the success you're looking for (without feeling trapped, needy, or overly dependent on external help), and can have emotional closure over these past experiences.
It's really hard to develop as a person. That sometimes requires re-writing deeply held opinions, which risks destablizing our sense of self. In this case, I would respectfully submit that, from an outside reader who doesn't know you and isn't in your life: you come off currently as being socially un-aware, un-reasonable in your expectations for how much other people should help you, and not particularly emotionally aware balanced or stable (leading to having emotional reactions that are more intensely negative than normal, to the same situations that other people won't react so strongly towards).
The good news is, by working through this complicated social and emotional history from your past, I do believe it could help you tremendously in developing and growing as a person. And when that happens, that reduces the chances of this same sort of screw-up and disappointment happening again further on in life. And it opens the door to more happiness, success, and life satisfaction to you, when you become a more considered, insightful, and stable person. All the best!
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I fully support you to write out your ideas, and I hope you are doing ok. You might want to find a more private blog--even if it is public--to write your ideas out. I do think you got cheated, scammed, and hustled. Many of these events might use agents or intermediate services that sign contracts, and they say their workers are contractors. There might be some grey legal area. Of course, it is not a normal salary. Because the business is ruthless, people do cruel things. I thnk people in these positions need more protections, better stable salary, and not just treated like trash and tossed aside. However, that benig said, I would say this is not a job or industry where many people can "making a living" just doing this. The reason I am replying is that I read some people said you need to check the social norms. No. You got cheated. What needs to be checked is the agent and how the pay happened? Were they paying tax? Or paying out in cash? If there was an agent involved, it is almost like human trafficking. Was it all legit or were people being cheated, exploited, and chewed up and spit out by this system? So, yes, speak your mind. Resolve unrsolved issues. Get away from this industry that cheated you. And stay strong. People who are saying you need to respect social stuff... Um, get a clue. However, I do agree that we should focus on ourselves. Why did you enter the industry? You were naive.. delusional. Took you awhile to "retire". If you enter a dirty industry where bottom feeders go, cheat, and throw people udner the bus because they are barely able to survive by doing these "unofficial jobs" overseas. One thing you can know... if it helps you to feel better. Many people are on a doomed path. If they go abroad, party, go to these events, lose a decade or two, squander all the money they made, or they were not making that much--not much to buy a hosue and settle down... they will eventually fail. Be strong. Might find a private place--but also make it public; showing you are not scared to be transparent. Here is a fun question for these agents and event organizers... Are they paying state tax, federal tax, or social security on their caster's pay? Nope, nope, nope. takes awhile to think of the implications, but "dirty cash" should never be hushed up. This dirty industry also promotes people to scam and cheat others. Horrible.
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Hypothetical... Let's say I am an agent. The actually business does not have a license to hire foerigners. I sign a contract with them to disconnect them from the hiring of foerigners. I take a huge fee. I never show the foreigners what their salary should actually be, and I make them a different offer. Many of these agents do not pay benefits for their contracts, etc. I read in one place, maybe 90% of the workers are full-time. Many of them pay in cash or transfers without showing you the "pay slip'. How many taxes were taken out? Nope. Which means the agent does tax evasion. Let me describe this as it sounds... Agents... they get paid big money to find people. And place people in certain places and jobs. Sounds like human trafficking to me. Sounds liket he agent did tons of illegal things. But they want to be arrogant and not use you? They want to appear to be all righteous and powerful. Yet they are the most corrupt.
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On the flip side... Let's say... casters have a full-time salary. And they get income for doing events. And they get benefits. They are fully protected according to the labor laws. Guess what? These casters are not protected by labor laws because the agent.
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Love reading the replies... "You need to respect the social norms..." Wait... he got exploited, cheated, betrayed, tossed under the bus, and people are doing scams, hustling, cons, fraud, tax evasion, human trafficking, and 20 laws were broken by the agent and them? Yet, we need to respect social norms.
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