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Ryzel
Profile Joined December 2012
United States554 Posts
December 26 2022 17:41 GMT
#41
Eek, creating a new account to double down is not a good look.
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ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
797 Posts
December 26 2022 18:35 GMT
#42
Wow, just wow.
It's possible that this is not a 2nd account - but it surely looks like one.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-26 21:01:44
December 26 2022 19:34 GMT
#43
On December 27 2022 03:35 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Wow, just wow.
It's possible that this is not a 2nd account - but it surely looks like one.

*sigh* it wasn't mine. mods/admins can verify this, and I welcome it.

On December 27 2022 00:06 Jackie1 wrote:
Love reading the replies... "You need to respect the social norms..." Wait... he got exploited, cheated, betrayed, tossed under the bus, and people are doing scams, hustling, cons, fraud, tax evasion, human trafficking, and 20 laws were broken by the agent and them? Yet, we need to respect social norms.

User was banned for this post.


Does this look like something I would type? Honestly guys, it's 3 A.M. where I live and I'm drunk AF.

The only thing I will say to support this is when you have casters at a Blizzard event (WCS World Championships in Shanghai in 2012) saying, "Esports is growing." and you have Blizzard spending so much on advertising for a professional gaming league, be it the overwatch league or anything starcraft or anything blizzard-made for that matter, you're feeding a "propaganda" message to everyone that says, "Join us." in whatever way possible, it almost becomes like brainwashing with the old Donkey, Carrot, and Blizzard riding your back meme.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44132 Posts
December 26 2022 20:04 GMT
#44
We can’t prove a negative but he wasn’t autoflagged as a second account. I know because I checked when he posted under what was obviously his second account.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-26 21:13:02
December 26 2022 20:11 GMT
#45
On December 27 2022 05:04 KwarK wrote:
We can’t prove a negative but he wasn’t autoflagged as a second account. I know because I checked when he posted under what was obviously his second account.

can I dm you to corroborate a story? get your "stamp of approval"? something that just says "ok yeah this seems legit."? Surely you guys have a webmaster who can verify this with you internally.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44132 Posts
December 26 2022 21:13 GMT
#46
On December 27 2022 05:11 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2022 05:04 KwarK wrote:
We can’t prove a negative but he wasn’t autoflagged as a second account. I know because I checked when he posted under what was obviously his second account.

can I dm you to corroborate a story? get your "stamp of approval"? something that just says "ok yeah this seems legit."? Surely you guys have a webmaster who can verify this with you internally.

Not sure how I would be able to corroborate anything.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
605 Posts
December 26 2022 21:28 GMT
#47
10/10 blog.
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
December 26 2022 21:30 GMT
#48
On December 27 2022 06:13 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2022 05:11 BreAKerTV wrote:
On December 27 2022 05:04 KwarK wrote:
We can’t prove a negative but he wasn’t autoflagged as a second account. I know because I checked when he posted under what was obviously his second account.

can I dm you to corroborate a story? get your "stamp of approval"? something that just says "ok yeah this seems legit."? Surely you guys have a webmaster who can verify this with you internally.

Not sure how I would be able to corroborate anything.

I dm'd you. I'm gonna send you a second one as well.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
605 Posts
December 26 2022 21:32 GMT
#49
i feel sorry for you. maybe not what happened to you though.
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10337 Posts
December 26 2022 22:09 GMT
#50
On December 27 2022 04:34 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2022 03:35 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Wow, just wow.
It's possible that this is not a 2nd account - but it surely looks like one.

*sigh* it wasn't mine. mods/admins can verify this, and I welcome it.

Show nested quote +
On December 27 2022 00:06 Jackie1 wrote:
Love reading the replies... "You need to respect the social norms..." Wait... he got exploited, cheated, betrayed, tossed under the bus, and people are doing scams, hustling, cons, fraud, tax evasion, human trafficking, and 20 laws were broken by the agent and them? Yet, we need to respect social norms.

User was banned for this post.


Does this look like something I would type? Honestly guys, it's 3 A.M. where I live and I'm drunk AF.

The only thing I will say to support this is when you have casters at a Blizzard event (WCS World Championships in Shanghai in 2012) saying, "Esports is growing." and you have Blizzard spending so much on advertising for a professional gaming league, be it the overwatch league or anything starcraft or anything blizzard-made for that matter, you're feeding a "propaganda" message to everyone that says, "Join us." in whatever way possible, it almost becomes like brainwashing with the old Donkey, Carrot, and Blizzard riding your back meme.

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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11564 Posts
December 27 2022 05:22 GMT
#51
I mean at this point, who the heck knows. Like Kwark said the automated system didn't detect anything, which is the first thing I checked as the posts have all the hallmarks of a sock puppet account. However, without proof, a charitable interpretation could be a friend of Breaker that decided to jump on TL or a long time TL lurker also happened to be a Breaker Stan. Or just someone trolling for kicks and giggles.

Still super suspicious posting however you look at it.

This thread has been some wild ride, I will say.
ModeratorDavid Duke, Richard Spencer, Nick Fuentes, Daily Stormer... "Some very fine people on both sides"
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-27 07:10:31
December 27 2022 07:05 GMT
#52
Can we just agree that I can put words on people's computer screens (IE posting a blog here) without getting angry (present tense) even years after I've uploaded any content to youtube or streamed on twitch?

EDIT: there were two documentaries I saw that are (at least now) pretty irrelevant and taught me to separate my emotions from everything that I see happening online: The Great Hack and The Social Dilemma. As I said before, irrelevant, but watching these got me more in tune with my attitude whenever I sit down in front of a computer and read or watch anything online that might make people angry.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17658 Posts
December 27 2022 13:13 GMT
#53
On December 27 2022 14:22 Falling wrote:
I mean at this point, who the heck knows. Like Kwark said the automated system didn't detect anything, which is the first thing I checked as the posts have all the hallmarks of a sock puppet account. However, without proof, a charitable interpretation could be a friend of Breaker that decided to jump on TL or a long time TL lurker also happened to be a Breaker Stan. Or just someone trolling for kicks and giggles.

Still super suspicious posting however you look at it.

This thread has been some wild ride, I will say.

or an enemy of Breaker trying to make it appear he is using alt accounts.
who knows.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12042 Posts
December 27 2022 15:22 GMT
#54
If anything the other account was Jealous just fueling the fire again lol. I've lost how many accounts he has haha
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11564 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-27 18:50:53
December 27 2022 18:32 GMT
#55
Can we just agree that I can put words on people's computer screens (IE posting a blog here) without getting angry (present tense) even years after I've uploaded any content to youtube or streamed on twitch?

Can you agree that what you have claimed is not a neutral, how I feel statement but some pretty weighty accusations against some beloved figures in the Starcraft community?

[image loading]

Whether intentionally or not, you came at Tastosis and you missed. You did not prove your accusations and people are clowning you as a result (at worst).

edit
You may not agree that you missed (why would you write this blog otherwise), but can you agree with my first sentence: Your blog is not neutral and amounts to serious accusations of wrongdoings by beloved members of the community.
ModeratorDavid Duke, Richard Spencer, Nick Fuentes, Daily Stormer... "Some very fine people on both sides"
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
December 27 2022 20:59 GMT
#56
honest question, where is the serious allegation?

from what I gather, it just seems Tastosis may have used their influence to get Valdez the job instead of OP, which isnt serious at all since they never owed OP anything and, by OPs own admission he is very rage-y and unlikable. The other casters want to enjoy their co caster and they want the tourneys they cast to be successful, so i'm struggling to see the wrongdoing here. can anyone shed some light?
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10337 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-28 04:18:29
December 28 2022 04:18 GMT
#57
On December 28 2022 05:59 BreakfastBurrito wrote:
honest question, where is the serious allegation?

from what I gather, it just seems Tastosis may have used their influence to get Valdez the job instead of OP, which isnt serious at all since they never owed OP anything and, by OPs own admission he is very rage-y and unlikable. The other casters want to enjoy their co caster and they want the tourneys they cast to be successful, so i'm struggling to see the wrongdoing here. can anyone shed some light?

Nope, that's basically it.

On December 28 2022 00:22 Qikz wrote:
If anything the other account was Jealous just fueling the fire again lol. I've lost how many accounts he has haha

LOL
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10495 Posts
December 31 2022 20:38 GMT
#58
I'm late to this, but I felt something similar to what I've read in this thread: some form of resentment, maybe jealousy, and no real acknowledgement of the fact that the esports casting industry, especially for a niche game now like Starcraft, is hellish and has almost no room for new casters.

I casted BW. Did some work for AfreecaTV when they held their first couple ASLs when Tastosis came back and took over. Basically held the seat warm for them until Brood War was back to being sustainable. Yeah, took it like a punch in the gut. Got no recognition for my work either which sucked, neither did anyone from Teamliquid who worked hard to keep the foreign BW scene alive (Bisudagger especially). Tried to keep a 2nd stream open to allow me to continue to cast, but it wouldn't be paid and my hours casting from the USA were already so fucked, so I gave up. So yeah, at first I was bitter and angry, felt like Tastosis only did this for the payout instead of passion. Stewed on those thoughts for about a year, realized that no matter what angle you looked at, Afreeca went after the best possible casters for them. They had the following, would generate the most views, and although they were rusty on their game knowledge coming back, they picked it back up pretty quickly. I had to acknowledge all of that, it was a tough pill to swallow.

Niche industries in general are a matter of grinding so so hard, and then realizing that you also need a ton of luck to actually get a foothold in the business. Reminds me of a Bo Burnham segment with Conan about how people should just give up on trying to get into the industry because everyone at the top of those niches are survivorship bias. They all got lucky to be there. There's always another 100 people along with you that are working just as hard as you, and won't get anywhere either. It's not personal, it's just a lot of luck, and probably a lot of nepotism too. And that's that. We realize that our dreams are just that, dreams, and ultimately we find a new profession and career that is actually sustainable and doesn't need that luck to be successful in.

GL in the future though, yeah, it sucks we can't cast professionally and follow those dreams but ultimately, it's just for the best.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10337 Posts
December 31 2022 22:00 GMT
#59
On January 01 2023 05:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
I'm late to this, but I felt something similar to what I've read in this thread: some form of resentment, maybe jealousy, and no real acknowledgement of the fact that the esports casting industry, especially for a niche game now like Starcraft, is hellish and has almost no room for new casters.

I casted BW. Did some work for AfreecaTV when they held their first couple ASLs when Tastosis came back and took over. Basically held the seat warm for them until Brood War was back to being sustainable. Yeah, took it like a punch in the gut. Got no recognition for my work either which sucked, neither did anyone from Teamliquid who worked hard to keep the foreign BW scene alive (Bisudagger especially). Tried to keep a 2nd stream open to allow me to continue to cast, but it wouldn't be paid and my hours casting from the USA were already so fucked, so I gave up. So yeah, at first I was bitter and angry, felt like Tastosis only did this for the payout instead of passion. Stewed on those thoughts for about a year, realized that no matter what angle you looked at, Afreeca went after the best possible casters for them. They had the following, would generate the most views, and although they were rusty on their game knowledge coming back, they picked it back up pretty quickly. I had to acknowledge all of that, it was a tough pill to swallow.

Niche industries in general are a matter of grinding so so hard, and then realizing that you also need a ton of luck to actually get a foothold in the business. Reminds me of a Bo Burnham segment with Conan about how people should just give up on trying to get into the industry because everyone at the top of those niches are survivorship bias. They all got lucky to be there. There's always another 100 people along with you that are working just as hard as you, and won't get anywhere either. It's not personal, it's just a lot of luck, and probably a lot of nepotism too. And that's that. We realize that our dreams are just that, dreams, and ultimately we find a new profession and career that is actually sustainable and doesn't need that luck to be successful in.

GL in the future though, yeah, it sucks we can't cast professionally and follow those dreams but ultimately, it's just for the best.

And then you got 3-0'd by a washed-up not-even-has-been foreign Protoss. StarCraft is brutal like that, I'm proud of you for moving on and coming out better for it 😂
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6258 Posts
January 01 2023 12:57 GMT
#60
On December 27 2022 22:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2022 14:22 Falling wrote:
I mean at this point, who the heck knows. Like Kwark said the automated system didn't detect anything, which is the first thing I checked as the posts have all the hallmarks of a sock puppet account. However, without proof, a charitable interpretation could be a friend of Breaker that decided to jump on TL or a long time TL lurker also happened to be a Breaker Stan. Or just someone trolling for kicks and giggles.

Still super suspicious posting however you look at it.

This thread has been some wild ride, I will say.

or an enemy of Breaker trying to make it appear he is using alt accounts.
who knows.

Didn't you have your own run-in with a suspected alt account?

Perhaps that enemy is you and this post is your way of deflecting suspicion.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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