EPTNigma Discussion - Page 2
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hunter_x
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NInoff
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On November 30 2019 04:03 kiroskirin wrote: Can't wait for Closed Qual. There will be some high level dota for sure. | ||
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juuto
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Rufus Dupres
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hunter_x
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Rufus Dupres
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juuto
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Now seriously - last year i realised something and now it just proves itself. The top teams that we know pretty much never tryhard unless it is TI - i mean most of them have already won it, and that makes you care for nothing else but TI.So they are constantly skipping majors, if they are actually playing they are testing stuff, trying to prove that some weird synergies work, trying to beat the opponents best hero instead of baning it or not in the right mindset to show us the best dota they can. As they know that all they need is 1 good major performance throughout the year and bam - they are in TI. Even if that doesn't happen there is always a qualifer. And usually there are no teams left that cna stop them there. So instead of wondering for 8 months why Nigma's every second game has questionable picks or plays i'm gonna stick with the guys that are very motivated and still have to prove themselves, that will show us the best dota they can all the time - and that i actually like too - Liquid. | ||
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juuto
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
On December 04 2019 02:15 juuto wrote: Seeing them lose to Magnus twice is just boring. Just ban it and don't force us to watch this horseshit of them trying to counter a broken hero with no real counters. Magnus was not a problem at all last game though. Ember just wasn't impactful at any point, they couldn't kill matu reliably even when he was underfarmed neither they could end the game because ember didn't offer much sustain. On another note: good series, they all played really well. I feel like the meta hasn't been figured, everyone just picks fast heroes and it works but i'm not feeling it | ||
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juuto
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hunter_x
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Anamorph
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i cant say its just drafting - yes it is a part, but against alliance their decision making is bad too. in terms of drafting they have real issues - but their shotcalling wasn t good too. | ||
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Anamorph
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On December 04 2019 04:37 hunter_x wrote: ok so we are at the point of sucking again. did they actually do anything in the time they skipped the major? they need some serious training before the minor... you can feel they had too much rest. | ||
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xM(Z
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juuto
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They better not drop out like a bunch of sore losers from the Minor because "they need a break". There is no reason a team should be this incredibly inconsistent. | ||
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GGman
Czech Republic143 Posts
On December 03 2019 16:09 NInoff wrote: If Liquid plays Liquid Liquid always wins. Now seriously - last year i realised something and now it just proves itself. The top teams that we know pretty much never tryhard unless it is TI - i mean most of them have already won it, and that makes you care for nothing else but TI.So they are constantly skipping majors, if they are actually playing they are testing stuff, trying to prove that some weird synergies work, trying to beat the opponents best hero instead of baning it or not in the right mindset to show us the best dota they can. As they know that all they need is 1 good major performance throughout the year and bam - they are in TI. Even if that doesn't happen there is always a qualifer. And usually there are no teams left that cna stop them there. So instead of wondering for 8 months why Nigma's every second game has questionable picks or plays i'm gonna stick with the guys that are very motivated and still have to prove themselves, that will show us the best dota they can all the time - and that i actually like too - Liquid. Thank you for saving me the trouble of expressing my opinion on the matter as this is just spot on :D To all the Nigma fans out there (not saying I'm not one of you) - prepare for a rollercoaster of a year! | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
On December 04 2019 04:40 juuto wrote: Ever since TI7 ended, Kuro's squad has been nothing short of a complete trainwreck of a T1 team. It's unbelievable how they haven't fixed this issue yet where they're one of the most inconsistent teams in the world. They get stomped in every grand finals that they're in, they completely fuck up in every group stage, and now they can't even qualify with 3 fucking slots to the major. Tons of highs for the team along with an absurd amount of lows, it's actually insane. They better not drop out like a bunch of sore losers from the Minor because "they need a break". There is no reason a team should be this incredibly inconsistent. If you have to manage a team, you don't have the time to actually prepare for the game. Also if its just a business for Kuro as he said multiple times he should not be playing.But running the business. Havent seen nazgul carry a game in a long time... and there is a reason for that. I feel a little sorry for the boys its been a rough 24 hours - i mean being spanked by your former organisation, and 1v5-ed by the guy that you kicked 6 months ago is kind of a lot to take in... But like i said don't worry Nigma will be playing this TI. But i wont bother to care what they do until then, as i want to enjoy watching a highly motivated team showing us some good dota like Liquid or Alliance, not a team that obviously has some motivational issues( its pretty much like you said - the same every year since they won TI, OG has the same issue too, but the managed to win another TI ) - there is no other explanation for all the drafts, feeds and pure throws we've seen from the boys. They have the experience, the synergy, the skill the mechanics, and the knowledge of the game to do it. But they don't. | ||
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juuto
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On December 04 2019 04:55 NInoff wrote: If you have to manage a team, you don't have the time to actually prepare for the game. Also if its just a business for Kuro as he said multiple times he should not be playing.But running the business. Havent seen nazgul carry a game in a long time... and there is a reason for that. But like i said don't worry Nigma will be playing this TI. But i wont bother to care what they do until then, as i want to enjoy watching a highly motivated team showing us some good dota like Liquid or Alliance, not a team that obviously has some motivational issues( its pretty much like you said - the same every year since they won TI, OG has the same issue too, but the managed to win another TI ) - there is no other explanation for all the drafts, feeds and pure throws we've seen from the boys. They have the experience, the synergy, the skill the mechanics, and the knowledge of the game to do it. But they don't. They got a 2nd place at Major, bombed out 3rd party LAN a week later, and then had a roster change. They bombed out of the TI9 group stage and made the absolutely ludicrous lower bracket run to the grand finals at fucking TI. This does not happen under normal circumstances with teams who have their heads together, only a complete mess of a team can fail and succeed the way Kuro's teams do. At least OG worked with a psychologist at TI9, Kuro failed to do the same and guess what? Liquid proved to be a very good team with very skilled players who are just a colossal mess of a team. OG proved to be a very good team with very skilled players who have their shit together. This rollercoaster ride that this team has been on is not normal at all. Even the TI8 season, they couldn't win a major to save their lives despite there being a million of them that season, but the moment you put a "super" in front of the "major", that's the one they'll win. C'mon, they have to do something about this because it just shouldn't be happening. | ||
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Qualitaetsgarant
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On December 04 2019 04:55 NInoff wrote: I feel a little sorry for the boys its been a rough 24 hours - i mean being spanked by your former organisation, and 1v5-ed by the guy that you kicked 6 months ago is kind of a lot to take in... I don't feel sorry at all. It was THEIR decision to kick Matumbaman and THEIR decision to leave Liquid. Maybe they should think about this decisionmaking. Btw: So many people said that Matu was the problem and kicking him is the easy solution. I hope that Matu keeps proving they are wrong. | ||
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