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On March 05 2019 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 18:54 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 18:37 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 05 2019 18:29 rsoultin wrote:
i'm done with you acro. go back to something interesting, if you can manage it. calling your maybes in your reads list bad was a good start
@jock uhhuh...yeah i don't get how you read this game and claim that hf didn't have a scumread on palmar that he made overwhelmingly clear multiple times including his intention to use the mayor lynch to vote him. if your uncommitted to any pov is your way of saying he's scum i guess that makes some sense but it's a lot of words just to nullread someone At one point he said he wasn't going to lynch palmar and was just using the platform to find out who would go for it. The he said that was a lie. This is the post that is making me question his motives and how genuine his palmar read was. -squints at- are you referring to the thing he said right at deadline cause that negates my point not at all for everyone who was voting HF for mayor. i missed it if he said anything like that earlier Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:29 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 06:22 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2019 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
na I need a confirmation too many rambos on this site who will shot vivax day 1 and waste are shit or something Iamp is advocating to lynch bh constantly. It is our best bet. Palmar tje fucker will shoot sentinel because palmar might be mafia. Holyflare will shoot Palmar because town!HF is not really top tier and he doesnt know better. I literally said I wouldn't. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:29 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 06:29 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 06:22 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2019 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
na I need a confirmation too many rambos on this site who will shot vivax day 1 and waste are shit or something Iamp is advocating to lynch bh constantly. It is our best bet. Palmar tje fucker will shoot sentinel because palmar might be mafia. Holyflare will shoot Palmar because town!HF is not really top tier and he doesnt know better. I literally said I wouldn't. But it was a lie.
Okay...?? Maybe I'm brain dead but doesn't that say he's still lynching palmar lol >< there's what, less than a minute between those posts?
I'm asking for something that would reasonably give someone the idea that a vote for HF was not a vote to lynch Palmar for anyone reading the thread.
My point is if you voted for HF and read the thread and now are whining that Palmar is dead that's stupid at best and scummy at worst. And I'm kind of bored of this conversation unless you have something real that suggests people have any reasonable reason to doubt HF would go through with it beyond just them to themselves going 'no way HF lynches palmar he must be joking!' cause I didn't see anything like that.
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Anyway, out for awhile. Shtuffz to do and all that.
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On March 05 2019 17:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 17:50 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2019 17:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what's your take on Ace? I think he is full of shit. Isn’t he always though Would have to read, not sure when. Didn’t read the couple of posts I saw scummy but that doesn’t mean much Basically he asked Holyflare this: On March 05 2019 05:01 Ace wrote:
@holyflare: just voted you for Mayor. I haven't fully caught up but I've been skim reading. Assuming you win the election your plan is what again? Just restate for clarity so I'm not confused or in case I missed any new developments. Then nothing on HF's campaign on lynching Palmar. Do you think he EVER as town doesn't verify by just reading HF's filter what HF wants to do (as HF didn't answer him afaik)? Because i don't. My impression is he would be more careful as mafia than that I am pretty sure at the time HF was taking the train fro mthe airport and ultimaltely missed the question entirely. Do you think it's possible Ace just ran with that (he was in the thread for ages after that post)? Why doesn't he check if HF doesn't answer in reasonable time in case he is town?
I answered him?
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On March 05 2019 18:28 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 17:06 AMG wrote:On March 05 2019 16:50 Blazinghand wrote:On March 05 2019 16:42 AMG wrote:On March 05 2019 16:31 Blazinghand wrote:On March 05 2019 15:51 AMG wrote:
151 pages... you cannot be serious!
I started playing here nearly a decade ago under the name Adam4167, some of you ive played with, most of the rest Ive spectated games you were in.
Now, if someone could tell me on a scale of 1 to 10 the level of shit ive waded into, 1 being my socks would get wet and 10 being if i open my mouth I die of E.coli? I can't talk about pages 1-100 but as Day 1 came to an end, there was a 3-way race for mayor between Holyflare and Palmar, and to a lesser extent Iamperfection. There was no clear lead for who would be lynched, with Trfel, Oats, Acro, and Conversion all hitting 4-5 votes at one point or another. With about 6 hours left in the day, I came by and basically admitted there was no way I was going to read the first 100 pages, and said that it would be fine to lynch me so someone else would have a chance to play through Day 2 and enjoy the game (basically martyring). I lobbed down a self-vote (which later turned out to be not allowed), and voted for the guy who most recently got a mayor vote, Palmar. Following this, I got a wave of votes - from HF, Acro, Grack, and Iamp, who seemed extremely pleased with himself for figuring out that he should vote me. Over the next couple of hours, mayor voting consolidated, with HF and Palmar being neck and neck, and iamp falling behind. HF ran on a platform of lynching Palmar, and Palmar ran on a platform of lynching Sent for a variety of reasons inclusive of a policy lynch of Sent for failing to read his role PM. with about a half an hour left in the game, rayn, FF, iamp, Damdred brought HF to several votes over HF, pushing him into a comfortable lead over Palmar, and most of the votes consolidated onto either me or Trfel. with 10 minutes left, HF basically had the mayor vote locked up, 4 votes ahead of Palmar, thanks to Damdred and Iamp also hopping on his mayor wagon. For the lynch, I had 10 votes to Trfel's 9: Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, Vivax, rsoultin, Conversion Trfel (9): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales You'll note my vote isn't on Trfel here, I keep it on Iamp since he's a shitter and I don't want to accidentally get someone other than me lynched. The last 10 minutes are shenannies: Exo comes in and votes me, making it 11-9. 3 minutes to the deadline, Vivax swaps over from me to Trfel, tying it up at 10-10 (though i'll be lynched in this tie) 2 minutes to the deadline, Lightingstrike jumps from his irrelevant rsoultin vote onto me, making it 11 votes on me, 10 on Trfel. 1 Minute from the Deadline, conversion hops off of me and onto Trfel, causing Trfel to have 11 votes and me to have 10. Trfel flips Doctor. HF uses his mayoral power to kill Palmar, the backup Cop. An attempted self vote BH? youve changed man! In the world you're pitching to me, where both you and Trfel are town, why are these people switching votes with 1-2 minutes left on the clock at all, rather than just doing nothing? There's a couple of possibilities. for vivax and conversion, they might be townies who legitimately think Trfel was suspicious, and in their heart they nullread me and hope I get vigied or mayor-killed. Trfel was whining a lot as the deadline approached, which might have contributed to them dislike him. If they're scum, the last minute shenannies may have been for any reason - perhaps they thought I was sure to be a VT due to my lack of concern with being killed, and Trfel was Blue due to his whining (both of which turn out to be true), or in the case of Scum-Vivax, hoping to look like someone who tried and failed to avert the tragic lynch of town blazinghand since his voteswap didn't actually save me. For LS, I think he just accepted my martyring as "scum or useless, let's kill him" and realized his vote on rsoultin was doing literally nothing. if he's scum, he might ahve been trying to get onto a main wagon to avoid suspicion for staying out of the main battle. despite HF's promise to shoot Palmar with the mayor power, maybe they thought he'd use it on me. Maybe (and perhaps correctly) they figured I'd be vigged anyways. maybe they thought my lynch would be boring and provide little info. And in any case, if you're scum, making a bit fuss out of two competing town wagons can make you look good if you pull it off right, since... well, imagine you have a theory of "BH is scum, and conversion, his scumbuddy, saved him at the last minute" In this case, you lynch or vig BH first, because conversion's scum-nature is contingent on mine. And if you're conversion, you know town will think this, and lynch me first, and when I flip town, Conversion is then off the hook. by shenanniying from me onto Trfel, he sets up a Day 2 mislynch, theoretically speaking. though that's fairly WIFOMey, it's the kind of play I like to do as scum. I'm sure there are others who use it. Yeah thats fairly WIFOM stuff, Ill have to read how the lynch played out myself and get back to you. If you could flip 3 people right now, who are they? Me, HF, and Conversion would lay clear all the facts about what went down at the end of D1. I think a lot of questions and WIFOM get washed away when HF and conv flip, and doubly so for me - at least from the POV of people who aren't me. Also, flipping me now means our blues get to take better night actions, freeing up a vigi shot for someone else. A lot of the meat of what we need to dig into is what went down as we rolled towards the deadline D1. We know HF killed Palm, who flipped blue, and Conv's vote on Trfel killed Trfel and saved me. Flipping HF and Conv who made these ruinous decisions would lay it all out. Flipping me would also end all this stupid analysis where people assume I'm scum and go from there. Though it might be wiser to go back through and see who has contributed least and maybe sub them in for one or two of these guys, just because any low activity players you can't get a read on are going to be either scum or a liability in the lategame (since scum won't shoot them obvs) And really, when it comes down to it, HF should have had his finger on that dial, ready to send in a "actually i'm killing BH" pm to hosts when it was a 1-vote spread between me and Trfel's wagon. I may be the shenanigan king, but lots of people know to stick around the deadline, particularly when things are so close. Bear in mind, in the final moments leading up to the shenannies, HF is there, in the thread, comming on last minute mafia activity (link) and saying that I am a "secure mafia lynch" (3 minutes before deadline). HF was there, in the thread, when the votes shifted. He watched it happen. He complained about it. He said I was scum. Bear in mind, if HF truly thinks I was scum, he knew that at that point, the vote was tied 10-10 and I hadn't yet voted! All I had to do was cast a vote on Trfel and Trfel would die and I would live, HF, supposedly thinking i'm scum and in this situation, while we're both in the thread, with minutes to go, who thinks i'm "secure" as mafia, apparently decided to go for Palmar instead. In the end, HF hung out in the thread, watched the shenannies threaten to kill Trfel over me, tie up the vote with me still not voted on Trfel, then the vote goes onto Trfel and Trfel takes the lead, all while claiming I'm "secure mafia lynch" if I were in this situation I would be on a hair trigger, ready to take down the "secure mafia lynch" that is only winning by a 1-vote margin in case of shenannies. He will have many pretty, fancy reasons for why he did this, of course. He may even be town, town is wrong and screws up all the time. The host's vote counts were not very quick and accurate in the final minutes. But them's the things that happened. So yeah, I'd flip him along with me and conv ezpz and we'd see the truth.
The main reason is I just didn't care and if Palmar flipped mafia that would be pretty cool.
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I'll paste you the stuff post game and you'll laugh see 
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On March 05 2019 19:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 17:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2019 17:50 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2019 17:29 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what's your take on Ace? I think he is full of shit. Isn’t he always though Would have to read, not sure when. Didn’t read the couple of posts I saw scummy but that doesn’t mean much Basically he asked Holyflare this: On March 05 2019 05:01 Ace wrote:
@holyflare: just voted you for Mayor. I haven't fully caught up but I've been skim reading. Assuming you win the election your plan is what again? Just restate for clarity so I'm not confused or in case I missed any new developments. Then nothing on HF's campaign on lynching Palmar. Do you think he EVER as town doesn't verify by just reading HF's filter what HF wants to do (as HF didn't answer him afaik)? Because i don't. My impression is he would be more careful as mafia than that I am pretty sure at the time HF was taking the train fro mthe airport and ultimaltely missed the question entirely. Do you think it's possible Ace just ran with that (he was in the thread for ages after that post)? Why doesn't he check if HF doesn't answer in reasonable time in case he is town? I answered him?
Maybe I can't find the specific quote but the last few pages of my entire filter are just me saying I'm committed to lynching palmar. If Ace wanted to see a mayor lynch Sentinel then he was clearly on the wrong fucking wagon.
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My list lynch is now:
HF (vig not on BH)
Wiggles ( Palmar)
Sentinel (Palmar + Tfrel)
Anybody marv currently votes for
I will pick 1 at my pleasure. List will update after lynches but not on nk because those come from mafia.
I am sad Tfrel ended up blue.
Not much more to say and do.
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Acro if you’re town you need to calm the shit down babes
Sl if you were more fascinating I may interact with you!
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And if anybody asks.
I sheep marv because I love him and because I felt the coolness and awesomeness when he entered the thread.
I wont be posting much more till d4 or d5.
I have enough filter to make a correct call. But I agree that playing townie for 8ish hours is in my mafia range.
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On March 05 2019 20:09 Koshi wrote:
And if anybody asks.
I sheep marv because I love him and because I felt the coolness and awesomeness when he entered the thread.
I wont be posting much more till d4 or d5.
I have enough filter to make a correct call. But I agree that playing townie for 8ish hours is in my mafia range.
wow look at the big brain on this guy
buddy, "play townie all game until the final 3, convince the other two people, both of whom are townies, to vote each other, and win" is in my mafia range
i am a god
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On March 05 2019 12:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:46 rsoultin wrote:
it's not even for a good reason it just /feels/ like maybe he's town lol >< fml I hate this post, I hate hate HATE it. I'm not going to start in with 'well if she was scum she'd be too self conscious to be wishy washy' fuck that. It reeks of TMI and even more so when she doubles down here Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:53 rsoultin wrote:
eh it's bugging me more if trfel is town that palmar voted off bh to wiggles at the end, but since we're likely to get a palmar flip too i guess that'll resolve things lol >< When this was not 2 hours before Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:10 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 06:07 Koshi wrote:
Lynch Tfrel. Gives us info and he is unworthy.
Gogogogo I'm on board with this lol >< (now watch Koshi jump off like a hot potato cause he's bad) Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:29 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 06:27 Ace wrote:On March 05 2019 06:21 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah I still think Palmar is likely to be scum. Have no issue whatsoever mayoring Iam and killing BH (though I'm thinking we're likely to see a town flip there tbh) but I'm not changing my vote if it makes Palmar mayor. If you think BH is going to flip Town, then why not lynch Palmar? I'd be happy to lynch Palmar if anyone wanted to lynch Palmar. I'm also happy to lynch Truffle and Tube. And Rayn if it comes to it. Also LS, but my bad rsoul doubting brain is less confident about him. So assuming she knows Trfel and Palmar are town look at how close to deadline she starts waffling on BOTH of them. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:53 rsoultin wrote:
eh it's bugging me more if trfel is town that palmar voted off bh to wiggles at the end, but since we're likely to get a palmar flip too i guess that'll resolve things lol >< Reading this again, the Trfel thing looks bad, but look at how totally ok she was with Palmar flipping, ostensibly when she thought HE PROBABLY WOULDN'T. Then as it becomes more likely a reality it's 'bugging her' that Palmar (her scumread) changed his vote from BH (her townread) to Wiggles. Rather than committing to her scumread on Palmar she drops the hard stance before the flip. Even if you can come up with a towny explanation for this (I can - simply her changing her mind ---without showing much context but whatever, sure), look at how her tone changes from exuding confidence to meek and unsure as the deadline looms closer. She wants to look good because she's supposed to know Trfel and everyone on Palmar is going to look like shit regardless. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:29 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 06:27 Ace wrote:On March 05 2019 06:21 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah I still think Palmar is likely to be scum. Have no issue whatsoever mayoring Iam and killing BH (though I'm thinking we're likely to see a town flip there tbh) but I'm not changing my vote if it makes Palmar mayor. If you think BH is going to flip Town, then why not lynch Palmar? I'd be happy to lynch Palmar if anyone wanted to lynch Palmar. I'm also happy to lynch Truffle and Tube. And Rayn if it comes to it. Also LS, but my bad rsoul doubting brain is less confident about him. Also don't like this post because rather than push it she'd be 'happy to' but I digress. It just all looks and feels awful to me, and combined with the fact that she should very well know some of my scumplay (thank you LS, incidentally for bringing to light a game in which rsoul and I were scum together) I think rsoul is highly likely to flip RED
I think you're misreading these quotes? I also thought Trfel looked more towny when he was asking "why the fuck is everyone voting me?" and nobody was responding. It was a natural thought to have when he posted what he did, so it's not unlikely that rsoul felt the same.
The quote you said about rsoul knowing both trfel and palmar are town you are misreading. She now is taking the position of assumption that Trfel is town. Palmar was on the opposing wagon (BH) but as soon as Trfel started to get saved by votes on BH and off Trfel Palmar switched to Wiggles. This made rsoul more paranoid of Palmar, not less, because he was essentially killing Trfel.
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Just woke up will go back to bed as I am tired but I will answer a few things:
On March 05 2019 13:55 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 13:45 LightningStrike wrote:On March 05 2019 13:21 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:59 LightningStrike wrote:On March 05 2019 12:55 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:53 LightningStrike wrote:On March 05 2019 12:50 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Wave that point about Tina was part of my newer reasons for scumreading her as well. Sicklucker did point it out but he townreads her for it though lmao. SL can be a surprisingly smart dude sometimes. Hell he might even be town this game, pretty solid chance I'd wager. I think SL is wrong about Tina but he did bring forward a good piece of evidence for me (later wave used). Besides the case Wave just posted (or anything in it), what are your reasons for scum reading Rsoul? On March 05 2019 08:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home for like 30 minutes I voting Tina I think she's mafia at this point mainly her town around on me and her interactions with Rayn leaves me thinking she's scum. Originally swap to HF because I wasn't feeling the Sent mayor kill anymore but swap back because HF wants to kill Palmar who I think is likely town. TLDR her odd read shifts on me early and her interactions with rayn don't seem to come from Town!Tina from my perspective.(I made that post in on mobile so it did not come out as I wanted to.) If it's not too much trouble, care to point me to one of these interactions? The few interactions between them I saw suggested they were both town to me. The tone didn't feel natural from one end and felt like it's Scum vs Town and this post from Tina seemed a bit forced in my opinion: On March 05 2019 07:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ftr sorry HF i think i overreacted and i dont think youre mafia. But i dont like stuff that is not true on me. Also i always talk through people when i think they are mafia or id i think the conversation wont help either party. I didnt overreact on rsoultin. Regardless of what i say she wont change her read because her read is not based on not what i actually write, and i read her town, so no discussion is going to be productive.
Or she is mafia, but i dont believe it. These sorts of posts are why I hope you're mafia, actually. It's irritating as shit when you actively ignore me because I 'won't change my read'. I think if anything can be said of my play it's that I'm not a fucking mindless bulldog, and it's not as if I can even remember a game where I've tunneled the shit out of you when you were either alignment without reconsidering new information. But whatever. Behaving this way will make it difficult for me to see you as town if you are. And if you are, well, I'm really just sad that we apparently can't play this game together anymore and you know what...it's really not because of me. It's hard to describe but this post from Tina seemed like a good excuse for her to have a shit fight with Rayn? One of them definitely is town and the other is mafia on the tone between these posts from each other and in my opinion it's Tina. Anyways going to retire to my bed and when I wake up I will read everything! Yea I actually still get the opposite impression between those 2 posts you quoted. I've seen Rayn many a time bulldog down a scumread of his even when there is tons of evidence that he could be wrong, but since he sees something that colors a person red he will never let it go. Similarly will ignore someone he sees as townie who disagrees since he writes them off in his mind since he has "solved" their alignment. I'd go so far as to say that Rayn often is playing his own game of mafia, called "How right can Rayn be this game" (ok this is a bit unfair, and sorry Rayn, but it's how I perceive it). Rsoul, conversely tends to want to interact with her Town reads to bounce ideas off another person and get a better sense of where he reads should maybe be. I see her as one of a handful of players who actively try to look at both sides of a player, what they might be thinking as town and what they might be thinking as scum. Sometimes when you do this (I do this as well) it becomes hard to decide which PoV is more likely and you wind up bouncing back and forth between these 2 PoV's. That is also why I feel like Wave's case on Rsoul is shit, because that sort of waffely behavior is almost exactly what I tend to expect from a player who thinks like this. So, TLDR: Both are behaving how I'd expect from what I perceive their characters and mind sets to be as town reacting to one another here.
To each of their own I guess.
On March 05 2019 14:00 Tictock wrote:
Ok, for real I am out this time as I need to go to bed.
Thank you LS for sharing your views, I think you are wrong, but I am all the more convinced you are like 80-90% town here form that.
Like I said earlier, don't expect shit from me again tomorrow (wont even be home till about this time) but will be around Wednesday.
Np on talking to you.
On March 05 2019 16:31 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 15:51 AMG wrote:
151 pages... you cannot be serious!
I started playing here nearly a decade ago under the name Adam4167, some of you ive played with, most of the rest Ive spectated games you were in.
Now, if someone could tell me on a scale of 1 to 10 the level of shit ive waded into, 1 being my socks would get wet and 10 being if i open my mouth I die of E.coli? I can't talk about pages 1-100 but as Day 1 came to an end, there was a 3-way race for mayor between Holyflare and Palmar, and to a lesser extent Iamperfection. There was no clear lead for who would be lynched, with Trfel, Oats, Acro, and Conversion all hitting 4-5 votes at one point or another. With about 6 hours left in the day, I came by and basically admitted there was no way I was going to read the first 100 pages, and said that it would be fine to lynch me so someone else would have a chance to play through Day 2 and enjoy the game (basically martyring). I lobbed down a self-vote (which later turned out to be not allowed), and voted for the guy who most recently got a mayor vote, Palmar. Following this, I got a wave of votes - from HF, Acro, Grack, and Iamp, who seemed extremely pleased with himself for figuring out that he should vote me. Over the next couple of hours, mayor voting consolidated, with HF and Palmar being neck and neck, and iamp falling behind. HF ran on a platform of lynching Palmar, and Palmar ran on a platform of lynching Sent for a variety of reasons inclusive of a policy lynch of Sent for failing to read his role PM. with about a half an hour left in the game, rayn, FF, iamp, Damdred brought HF to several votes over HF, pushing him into a comfortable lead over Palmar, and most of the votes consolidated onto either me or Trfel. with 10 minutes left, HF basically had the mayor vote locked up, 4 votes ahead of Palmar, thanks to Damdred and Iamp also hopping on his mayor wagon. For the lynch, I had 10 votes to Trfel's 9: Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, Vivax, rsoultin, Conversion Trfel (9): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales You'll note my vote isn't on Trfel here, I keep it on Iamp since he's a shitter and I don't want to accidentally get someone other than me lynched. The last 10 minutes are shenannies: Exo comes in and votes me, making it 11-9. 3 minutes to the deadline, Vivax swaps over from me to Trfel, tying it up at 10-10 (though i'll be lynched in this tie) 2 minutes to the deadline, Lightingstrike jumps from his irrelevant rsoultin vote onto me, making it 11 votes on me, 10 on Trfel. 1 Minute from the Deadline, conversion hops off of me and onto Trfel, causing Trfel to have 11 votes and me to have 10. Trfel flips Doctor. HF uses his mayoral power to kill Palmar, the backup Cop.
I swap to you to try to prevent Tfrel's lynch but conversion hammered Tfrel -_- If you had looked in my filter I made it clear I wasn't going to let Trfel get lynched but I failed though when Conversion layed down the hammer on Tfrel while I was on mobile -_-
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On March 05 2019 16:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 16:50 AMG wrote:
Rayn, is there any players in particular you'd like my thoughts on? Im only on page 19 so far, but I can give someone a filter dive and let you know if anything jumps out at me, otherwise I can just store my thoughts until I catch up eventually and post everything then. Any of these: Mr. Wiggles, BloodyC0bbler, tubesock, AMG, darthfoley, Grackaroni, Onegu, Fecalfeast, Damdred.
Some pretty low post counts in this bunch.
Onegu:
Low post count but spends the majority of it tunneling Rsoul. Says that Rsoul is mafia for 'casing him' from what looks to be a throw away line by Rsoul. The only post of real substance in his filter is this one:
On March 05 2019 11:03 Onegu wrote:
If you want to know why Rsoul is mafia look at my filter its in there.
As you all know I make most of my reads based off of interactions with myself. If you read me scum thats fine if I can understand why you are calling my scum.
Rsoul made a shit read on me for a shit reason. Never would have made that read as town in 100 years!
nb4 she changes her read on me because I havent done much
which amounts to a meta read, which only appeared after an entire day of saying Rsoul is scum. Doesnt seem to be actively doing much of anything else besides bringing up rsoul, zero drive to actually solve the game. I find that scum are more likely to push singular targets as opposed to a whole swath of people at once, so id say a higher than average chance Onegu flips scum.
Fecalfeast:
A bunch of reads that never get fleshed out. The disconnect between what id say is an underwhelming filter and him thinking hes been very townie screams of townie confidence. Gun to my head Id guess hes town.
Damdred:
This is a tough one. Lots of Null and Town reads but he slaps his vote on Acro without much reasoning that I can see where it remains for the rest of the day. After the day ends he reverses his read on Acro, suggesting hes possibly just a frustrated townie. There are some townie-ish things in his filter, I like his explanation of his meta read on rsoul even when shes casing him. But he needs to come back and explain how hes seeing the game now that his main scum read is looking less scummy in his eyes.
Mr. Wiggles:
Well, Palmar really wanted him dead, I gathered that much from the quotes being posted after the lynch. Initially voted Palmar to be mayor but shifted to Holyflare after a weird mindmeld exchange with Ace that I do not understand. I'd trust townie Palmars read here.
Apologies for this taking longer than id like, I'm a single parent these days and when my kid calls, I go. Ill leave it there for now, its getting late and Ill piick up reading more of the thread in the morning and hopefully eventually catch up.
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On March 05 2019 20:43 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up will go back to bed as I am tired but I will answer a few things: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 13:55 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 13:45 LightningStrike wrote:On March 05 2019 13:21 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:59 LightningStrike wrote:On March 05 2019 12:55 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:53 LightningStrike wrote:On March 05 2019 12:50 Tictock wrote:On March 05 2019 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Wave that point about Tina was part of my newer reasons for scumreading her as well. Sicklucker did point it out but he townreads her for it though lmao. SL can be a surprisingly smart dude sometimes. Hell he might even be town this game, pretty solid chance I'd wager. I think SL is wrong about Tina but he did bring forward a good piece of evidence for me (later wave used). Besides the case Wave just posted (or anything in it), what are your reasons for scum reading Rsoul? On March 05 2019 08:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home for like 30 minutes I voting Tina I think she's mafia at this point mainly her town around on me and her interactions with Rayn leaves me thinking she's scum. Originally swap to HF because I wasn't feeling the Sent mayor kill anymore but swap back because HF wants to kill Palmar who I think is likely town. TLDR her odd read shifts on me early and her interactions with rayn don't seem to come from Town!Tina from my perspective.(I made that post in on mobile so it did not come out as I wanted to.) If it's not too much trouble, care to point me to one of these interactions? The few interactions between them I saw suggested they were both town to me. The tone didn't feel natural from one end and felt like it's Scum vs Town and this post from Tina seemed a bit forced in my opinion: On March 05 2019 07:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ftr sorry HF i think i overreacted and i dont think youre mafia. But i dont like stuff that is not true on me. Also i always talk through people when i think they are mafia or id i think the conversation wont help either party. I didnt overreact on rsoultin. Regardless of what i say she wont change her read because her read is not based on not what i actually write, and i read her town, so no discussion is going to be productive.
Or she is mafia, but i dont believe it. These sorts of posts are why I hope you're mafia, actually. It's irritating as shit when you actively ignore me because I 'won't change my read'. I think if anything can be said of my play it's that I'm not a fucking mindless bulldog, and it's not as if I can even remember a game where I've tunneled the shit out of you when you were either alignment without reconsidering new information. But whatever. Behaving this way will make it difficult for me to see you as town if you are. And if you are, well, I'm really just sad that we apparently can't play this game together anymore and you know what...it's really not because of me. It's hard to describe but this post from Tina seemed like a good excuse for her to have a shit fight with Rayn? One of them definitely is town and the other is mafia on the tone between these posts from each other and in my opinion it's Tina. Anyways going to retire to my bed and when I wake up I will read everything! Yea I actually still get the opposite impression between those 2 posts you quoted. I've seen Rayn many a time bulldog down a scumread of his even when there is tons of evidence that he could be wrong, but since he sees something that colors a person red he will never let it go. Similarly will ignore someone he sees as townie who disagrees since he writes them off in his mind since he has "solved" their alignment. I'd go so far as to say that Rayn often is playing his own game of mafia, called "How right can Rayn be this game" (ok this is a bit unfair, and sorry Rayn, but it's how I perceive it). Rsoul, conversely tends to want to interact with her Town reads to bounce ideas off another person and get a better sense of where he reads should maybe be. I see her as one of a handful of players who actively try to look at both sides of a player, what they might be thinking as town and what they might be thinking as scum. Sometimes when you do this (I do this as well) it becomes hard to decide which PoV is more likely and you wind up bouncing back and forth between these 2 PoV's. That is also why I feel like Wave's case on Rsoul is shit, because that sort of waffely behavior is almost exactly what I tend to expect from a player who thinks like this. So, TLDR: Both are behaving how I'd expect from what I perceive their characters and mind sets to be as town reacting to one another here. To each of their own I guess. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 14:00 Tictock wrote:
Ok, for real I am out this time as I need to go to bed.
Thank you LS for sharing your views, I think you are wrong, but I am all the more convinced you are like 80-90% town here form that.
Like I said earlier, don't expect shit from me again tomorrow (wont even be home till about this time) but will be around Wednesday. Np on talking to you. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 16:31 Blazinghand wrote:On March 05 2019 15:51 AMG wrote:
151 pages... you cannot be serious!
I started playing here nearly a decade ago under the name Adam4167, some of you ive played with, most of the rest Ive spectated games you were in.
Now, if someone could tell me on a scale of 1 to 10 the level of shit ive waded into, 1 being my socks would get wet and 10 being if i open my mouth I die of E.coli? I can't talk about pages 1-100 but as Day 1 came to an end, there was a 3-way race for mayor between Holyflare and Palmar, and to a lesser extent Iamperfection. There was no clear lead for who would be lynched, with Trfel, Oats, Acro, and Conversion all hitting 4-5 votes at one point or another. With about 6 hours left in the day, I came by and basically admitted there was no way I was going to read the first 100 pages, and said that it would be fine to lynch me so someone else would have a chance to play through Day 2 and enjoy the game (basically martyring). I lobbed down a self-vote (which later turned out to be not allowed), and voted for the guy who most recently got a mayor vote, Palmar. Following this, I got a wave of votes - from HF, Acro, Grack, and Iamp, who seemed extremely pleased with himself for figuring out that he should vote me. Over the next couple of hours, mayor voting consolidated, with HF and Palmar being neck and neck, and iamp falling behind. HF ran on a platform of lynching Palmar, and Palmar ran on a platform of lynching Sent for a variety of reasons inclusive of a policy lynch of Sent for failing to read his role PM. with about a half an hour left in the game, rayn, FF, iamp, Damdred brought HF to several votes over HF, pushing him into a comfortable lead over Palmar, and most of the votes consolidated onto either me or Trfel. with 10 minutes left, HF basically had the mayor vote locked up, 4 votes ahead of Palmar, thanks to Damdred and Iamp also hopping on his mayor wagon. For the lynch, I had 10 votes to Trfel's 9: Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, Vivax, rsoultin, Conversion Trfel (9): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales You'll note my vote isn't on Trfel here, I keep it on Iamp since he's a shitter and I don't want to accidentally get someone other than me lynched. The last 10 minutes are shenannies: Exo comes in and votes me, making it 11-9. 3 minutes to the deadline, Vivax swaps over from me to Trfel, tying it up at 10-10 (though i'll be lynched in this tie) 2 minutes to the deadline, Lightingstrike jumps from his irrelevant rsoultin vote onto me, making it 11 votes on me, 10 on Trfel. 1 Minute from the Deadline, conversion hops off of me and onto Trfel, causing Trfel to have 11 votes and me to have 10. Trfel flips Doctor. HF uses his mayoral power to kill Palmar, the backup Cop. I swap to you to try to prevent Tfrel's lynch but conversion hammered Tfrel -_- If you had looked in my filter I made it clear I wasn't going to let Trfel get lynched but I failed though when Conversion layed down the hammer on Tfrel while I was on mobile -_-
Your shennannies were noble and you did your best
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On March 05 2019 16:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said Acrofales was trying to do something during EoD is completely wrong, he was never doing anything, that was just headless running from one place to another with no fucking direction. He might be mafia, he kinda strongly said conversion was mafia right after the flip but then didn’t reference me at all once I’d started posting, thought it was a bit weird
Damn there goes my last hope that you somehow were town.
Don't worry though, I'll lynch HF with you cause I don't care about this game any more since he killed Palmar.
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On March 05 2019 21:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 16:56 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said Acrofales was trying to do something during EoD is completely wrong, he was never doing anything, that was just headless running from one place to another with no fucking direction. He might be mafia, he kinda strongly said conversion was mafia right after the flip but then didn’t reference me at all once I’d started posting, thought it was a bit weird Damn there goes my last hope that you somehow were town. Don't worry though, I'll lynch HF with you cause I don't care about this game any more since he killed Palmar.
it's like it's impossible to make a marv-read without reading his posts and stuff!
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Yeah but people could post anything. Better to make reads based on how I feel inside. Like deep down.
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On March 05 2019 21:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 16:56 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said Acrofales was trying to do something during EoD is completely wrong, he was never doing anything, that was just headless running from one place to another with no fucking direction. He might be mafia, he kinda strongly said conversion was mafia right after the flip but then didn’t reference me at all once I’d started posting, thought it was a bit weird Damn there goes my last hope that you somehow were town. Don't worry though, I'll lynch HF with you cause I don't care about this game any more since he killed Palmar.
Are you saying that for people who care about the game lynching HF would be wrong?
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On March 05 2019 21:17 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 21:12 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2019 16:56 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said Acrofales was trying to do something during EoD is completely wrong, he was never doing anything, that was just headless running from one place to another with no fucking direction. He might be mafia, he kinda strongly said conversion was mafia right after the flip but then didn’t reference me at all once I’d started posting, thought it was a bit weird Damn there goes my last hope that you somehow were town. Don't worry though, I'll lynch HF with you cause I don't care about this game any more since he killed Palmar. Are you saying that for people who care about the game lynching HF would be wrong?
Ahahaha. You can stay <3
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Knowing now that Palmar was town clears up a few things and makes interactions look incredibly feigned.
Take this guy for example:
Main Palmar Points - TLDR if you're lazy
Mocsta
Mocsta begins the game in a point of unknowns and decides to read filters (I'll ignore that he doesn't actually get to reading mine, despite saying he would, for now).
Made up nonsense that you only figure out if you look into it
Sentinel seems ok. Like his first couple posts were iffy but seemed quite comfortable/relaxed esp when asking for vote pile up. I didnt like acro in sentinel filter. Cheesy focus on lurjers.. reqd like he was polishing a turd.
Im not against a policy lynch but it would be purely that. I would prefer mayor vote on him so ppl are forced to take a stand for the lynch itself.
This Mocsta post was made on March 03 2019 15:00 GMT. I've gone into Sentinel's filter and compared it to what actually happened in his filter Here (click me) and Sentinel's last post before this was post #936 at March 03 2019 02:46 GMT. Not once is Acrofales mentioned in the entirety of Sentinel's filter here. I've even checked the chains of EVERY single post in his filter before then and Acrofales is not mentioned at all, in any of them or even hinted at. So why does Mocsta say this?
In my opinion I believe it was so that he could start going on Acro or at least "read his filter".
On March 04 2019 00:10 Mocsta wrote:
Acro filter is giving me tingles
Posting is quite hot/cold and the generic mafia stuff is over embellished - i get why palmar says its "logical" but doesnt mean it came from town.. its just general knowledge play in my opinion.
I woukd give him town credit for posting when saying hes busy but theres a overarching tone of ?anger / haste?.
My only hesitation is i already was leaning against him before i read filter - so i am interrsted in where others sit with acro.
Gonna read oats now
His Acro read is the most generic thing you can possibly post. Not only is it wishy washy in the sense he doesn't ACTUALLY give a substantial read but it doesn't actually say anything either. He's angry and hot/cold? ok?
You get some other fluff:
On March 04 2019 00:25 Mocsta wrote:So acro is banging on about lynch all liars and policy etc Why is this ignored?!?
but he ignores Acro's basically 3rd post in the game:
On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie.
Which literally explains it. Acro even points this out in a post directed to Mocsta but Mocsta has his biggest scum read on this guy but never EVER acknowledges this post which perfectly dissuades any of the substantial point(s) he has.
Mocsta finally un-scum reads Acro based on a post that doesn't quite make any sense from Acro. Acro says that BH is just like the people missing from his list but he's on there anyway which is literally the entire point of Tubesocks's post and Acro's post is essentially a list post that focuses on lurkers and people not doing much, which was exactly what Mocsta disliked Acro for in the beginning of the game!
On March 04 2019 22:14 Mocsta wrote:##unvote: acroI stopped scum reading him from #1416 onwards. Fingers in multiple pies, and consistent thought process throughout 3-4 of his 5 pages. Too much uncertainty/effort for mafia. I only played one scum game with iamp and he literally trolled the whole time. I recall that was what he was known for. Thats enough for me to give him a pass Day1 whether the case was good or bad.
Acro is never mentioned again.
Palmar Inconsistencies - The Bread and Butter
He says the following about Palmar:
Palmar filter was good because it had some quotes from rayn and acro. I like that rayn picked up on acro.. palmars counter about weak play are fair and aceo is a solid player. But i give higher credit to weekend and massive game = preference to cop out even if mafia. I do like palmat back and forth with rayn and even though i know palmar excels at pushing for thread soapbox position it read as if he was trying to work with the thread instead of pretend to keep up a facade.
He says he likes Palmar's filter so far (this read through occurred when Palmar was at the start of page 2 of his filter) because Palmar is defending Acro and soap boxing about policy lynching, which he knows Palmar is good at, as both alignments! So he chooses an alignment for Palmar based on an arbitrary metric of weekend playing. That's ok in a vacuum. He even follows it up saying he's voting Palmar for mayor:
On March 04 2019 00:30 Mocsta wrote:
Going to bed
Im ok with palmar mayor to policy lynch sentinel
My lynch is trfel or acro. I will place on whoever has highest vote count at this point.
Ciao
What's not cool is what follows after this:
On March 04 2019 14:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
I also think Mocsta purposefully neglected to read my filter over the ones he "chose" so he could have an excuse to join the Palmar mayor wagon. Not true I was going to read urs last of the three. But palmars led me down the path it did and i was content I havent read urs and will avoid it as long as i can. Mainly because i suspect ur filter is big and cos i havent seen anything untoward from you that others quoted
He's content with Palmar, read his filter and everything but 4 hours later he's all over my Palmar case that says I'm lynching Palmar:
On March 04 2019 18:27 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 18:14 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 18:09 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 04 2019 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
My mayor lynch will be on Palmar by the way. I can get behind this, but what's the reasoning behind it? Only talks about town reads, has no suspicions on pretty much anything in the game. Perpetuates nonsense policy lynch after he likes Sentinel's effort when he hasn't even read it. His last post about acro is entirely a wall of hedge whereby he looks like he's falsely weighing up Acro's alignment but really it's wishy washy and says nothing. His iamp read looks completely bs too for similar reasons to his acro read. Iamp is town but wait here's reasons I can say he's not town later in the game. None of this is concrete town palmar stuff. There's also the fact we can acknowledge that mafia were pushing for his candidacy if he does flip mafia Hf u swayed my mayor vote
Now we're in a situation where Mocsta has liked everything about Palmar, has completely done a 180 and is now voting me for mayor to lynch Palmar and we're in a situation where Mocsta's mindset is that Palmar is scummy, or at least that I have a good platform based on lynching him. What happens next? It's the infamous Palmar/Mocsta rage explosion.
1. Mocsta criticises Palmar for misconstruing his filter: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 19:49 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 18:55 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 08:14 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 05:40 Pandain wrote:
I'm only halfway through and might not even completely finishing catching up tonight, but I'm just going to say anyone who favors policy lynches is completely making the wrong decision. We literally already have over 60 pages of information to find scum, let's not waste a lynch.
Favoring policy lynches encourages lazy play and for mafia just to blend in with bland reasons, and it doesn't benefit town because most people who get lynched from a policy lynched are the people who don't give a fuck (most likely town).
Policy lynches are only good as a threat to promote good behavior, they're not good to actually implement. But I'm pretty sure most people favoring them right now don't have that view.
alarm bell Berates town when not even caught up..... He's not berating town at all, he's making an argument on how to play the game. It's actually put forward in a pretty respectful way. Of course it's fucking wrong but that's not the point. I fully believe Pandain actually believes what he's say. Overall I dislike Mocsta's filter. On March 04 2019 00:28 Mocsta wrote:On March 02 2019 21:59 Trfel wrote:I actually kinda want to lynch sicklucker. He's currently contributed almost no reads (if I recall correctly, dislike of Acrofales and a town-to-meh read on rsoultin). Yet he took the time to defend himself verbosely from the slightest suspicion of rsoultin, which feels highly overdefensive, but his argument was defending his townread of rsoultin while his read, just previously posted, seemed far less committed: On March 02 2019 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin is town dawg. maybe. na. maybe. na Does that make sense? It doesn't look like he's trying to find mafia, just trying to exist. Bad post and trfel knows it Town can have all these symptoms.. which is why he hesitates with i kinds want to... Okay, so you think it's a bad post... and then what? I mean, Mocsta is not wrong, town does stupid shit, but the entire point of the exercise is to figure out which stupid shit is done by mafia. Even the wording on "Town can have all these symptoms" doesn't invalidate Trfel's point that mafia could have those symptoms. If it's such a bad post do you want to investigate Trfel? Because you didn't post about him ever again since then. Or was it simply a defense of sicklucker? I didn't think your "not posting shit in the thread" read on sicklucker is strong enough to warrant defending him. Overall the feeling I get from Mocsta is he's either attacking or complimenting single posts (the two I quoted, some post by BC etc) without much direction. He's not trying to get anything done, he's just... posting. He's a really good candidate for mafia. yes my posts have no direction So why does that make me a good candidate for mafia. U clearly are skimming my less than one page filter because its clear i did investigste trfel and spelled out a clear conclusion. Again. Ither than me rescinding my mayor vote on yoy and agreeing with some hf points. Why are yoy treating my filter as worst possible scenario. Why are you ignoring exo..
2. Mocsta thinks Palmar is arguing circular logic and is treating him like confirmed mafia already and doesn't like the cut of Palmar's jib: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 19:49 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 18:55 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 08:14 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 05:40 Pandain wrote:
I'm only halfway through and might not even completely finishing catching up tonight, but I'm just going to say anyone who favors policy lynches is completely making the wrong decision. We literally already have over 60 pages of information to find scum, let's not waste a lynch.
Favoring policy lynches encourages lazy play and for mafia just to blend in with bland reasons, and it doesn't benefit town because most people who get lynched from a policy lynched are the people who don't give a fuck (most likely town).
Policy lynches are only good as a threat to promote good behavior, they're not good to actually implement. But I'm pretty sure most people favoring them right now don't have that view.
alarm bell Berates town when not even caught up..... He's not berating town at all, he's making an argument on how to play the game. It's actually put forward in a pretty respectful way. Of course it's fucking wrong but that's not the point. I fully believe Pandain actually believes what he's say. Overall I dislike Mocsta's filter. On March 04 2019 00:28 Mocsta wrote:On March 02 2019 21:59 Trfel wrote:I actually kinda want to lynch sicklucker. He's currently contributed almost no reads (if I recall correctly, dislike of Acrofales and a town-to-meh read on rsoultin). Yet he took the time to defend himself verbosely from the slightest suspicion of rsoultin, which feels highly overdefensive, but his argument was defending his townread of rsoultin while his read, just previously posted, seemed far less committed: On March 02 2019 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin is town dawg. maybe. na. maybe. na Does that make sense? It doesn't look like he's trying to find mafia, just trying to exist. Bad post and trfel knows it Town can have all these symptoms.. which is why he hesitates with i kinds want to... Okay, so you think it's a bad post... and then what? I mean, Mocsta is not wrong, town does stupid shit, but the entire point of the exercise is to figure out which stupid shit is done by mafia. Even the wording on "Town can have all these symptoms" doesn't invalidate Trfel's point that mafia could have those symptoms. If it's such a bad post do you want to investigate Trfel? Because you didn't post about him ever again since then. Or was it simply a defense of sicklucker? I didn't think your "not posting shit in the thread" read on sicklucker is strong enough to warrant defending him. Overall the feeling I get from Mocsta is he's either attacking or complimenting single posts (the two I quoted, some post by BC etc) without much direction. He's not trying to get anything done, he's just... posting. He's a really good candidate for mafia. yes my posts have no direction So why does that make me a good candidate for mafia. U clearly are skimming my less than one page filter because its clear i did investigste trfel and spelled out a clear conclusion. Again. Ither than me rescinding my mayor vote on yoy and agreeing with some hf points. Why are yoy treating my filter as worst possible scenario. Why are you ignoring exo.. the more i think about this palmar post. Thr more annoyed i get Its bullshit. Im town and have no knowledge of scum or setup Im nkt rjnning for mayor The mayor / kynch is effectively spoken for.. What direction exactly is he expecting from me If i post. Its no direction. If i dont post. Im useless town tonbe vigged Hes creating a damned if you do. Damned if you dont srgument. Its bullshit and i sont like it.
3. Mocsta gets annoyed at Palmar's position, who he thinks is scummy(?) but treats Palmar like he's insulting him when Palmar could have just been mafia ruffling his feathers on purpose: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 20:15 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:06 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Its bullshit.
No On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im town and have no knowledge of scum or setup
Neither does anyone else, doesn't stop them helping. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im nkt rjnning for mayor
So what? On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
The mayor / kynch is effectively spoken for..
What direction exactly is he expecting from me
No it's not, the mayor race is very close and the lynch is on a very active player who is almost certainly going to make an effort not to get lynched. I'm expecting you to argue for your positions. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
If i post. Its no direction.
If i dont post. Im useless town tonbe vigged
Hes creating a damned if you do. Damned if you dont srgument.
Its bullshit and i sont like it.
This is incorrect. I want you to post, I'm just looking for your posts being in some coherent line of thought, some objective. If you want to make sure HF becomes the mayor, convince someone to help you do that. If you think Acro is the mafia, keep making the case. To be fair though, this outburst looks kinda less scummy so I'm on the fence on your alignment. Starting to think maybe you're just really, really bad and not mafia. *clap clap* you're just really, realy bad see. this is why this is the last game on this forum. Terrible mentality. To be honest, I didn't sign up to be abused like this. No you didn't hurt my feelings, but Im not gonna put up with this crap. I will give you one warning. Be a shithead like this again, and I will modkill. I have played fairly, and whether my style is to your liking, is YOUR problem to deal with.
4. Mocsta says Palmar is being malicious and misrepresenting a series of events: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 20:21 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:18 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 20:13 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 19:57 Palmar wrote:
I'm not treating your filter as worst possible scenario, I just looked at what was in it, which wasn't very much. I think it's not clear you investigated Trfel, you've not explained your reasoning for suspecting him beyond the one post I quoted. I'm not saying Trfel is town or anything, just that your reasons are trash.
At the top of this page there is a list showing the people I have opinion on, that's about a third of the game maybe. Why are you asking me about exo? Why not Ace? Conversion? BC? Oats? or anyone else out of the 20 or so people I haven't gotten around to reading yet? Why dont you ask me then to explain further. That's not my job. If I see 2 people vote Acro, one makes a case and actively tries to get him lynched and the other one is "I'm fine with lynching Acro" and then not another word, it's usually obvious which one I believe is invested in getting the correct lynch. The onus is on you to push your ideas. Bullshit. You are debating about philosophy of how to play the game. Just because I differ, doesnt make me any less town or scum. There is a time and place to push; and when I entered Day1, the game was already at somehwat of a steady-state. I dont believe sicklucker even made a case on acro, so you are being intentionally malicious in your recollection of events towards me.
5. Mocsta completely invalidates any kind of reactions he's had to Palmar by being wishy washy on him now: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 20:28 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:23 Holyflare wrote:
Just keep me as mayor and palmar dies, easy life mocsta. I already have my major vote I need to contemplate the palmar mayor lynch a little bit more, as I can see his malicious posting to me being butthurt town. Then again, if he thinks so little of me, its unlikely that I made him butthurt. Then again, (again), I think I had the swing vote that see HF as mayor... So in short, I can see someone pumped for Mayor for the last game of TL, reciprocating in this fashion whether town or mafia. I need to reread your thing on him, and follow through with reading acro/trfel. /dribble + random bullshit over
6. Mocsta instead rages at Palmar again: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 20:30 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:27 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 20:15 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 20:06 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Its bullshit.
No On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im town and have no knowledge of scum or setup
Neither does anyone else, doesn't stop them helping. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im nkt rjnning for mayor
So what? On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
The mayor / kynch is effectively spoken for..
What direction exactly is he expecting from me
No it's not, the mayor race is very close and the lynch is on a very active player who is almost certainly going to make an effort not to get lynched. I'm expecting you to argue for your positions. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
If i post. Its no direction.
If i dont post. Im useless town tonbe vigged
Hes creating a damned if you do. Damned if you dont srgument.
Its bullshit and i sont like it.
This is incorrect. I want you to post, I'm just looking for your posts being in some coherent line of thought, some objective. If you want to make sure HF becomes the mayor, convince someone to help you do that. If you think Acro is the mafia, keep making the case. To be fair though, this outburst looks kinda less scummy so I'm on the fence on your alignment. Starting to think maybe you're just really, really bad and not mafia. *clap clap* you're just really, realy bad see. this is why this is the last game on this forum. Terrible mentality. To be honest, I didn't sign up to be abused like this. No you didn't hurt my feelings, but Im not gonna put up with this crap. I will give you one warning. Be a shithead like this again, and I will modkill. I have played fairly, and whether my style is to your liking, is YOUR problem to deal with. Of course it is, I hate the way you've played so far this game, which is why I called it really really bad. It's you, not me, who's skirting the rules by threatening to get yourself modkilled. I'm not the asshole here, you are. I push people's buttons to make them react. I get annoyed because you greatly misconstrued my position on you as a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario, when it's very obvious what the problem I have with your posting is. If you put words in my mouth, I have to call you mafia, unless I actually believe you believe what you're writing, in which case you're just not showing me the respect of actually reading what I'm saying, in which case I'm completely justified in calling you bad. It's super obvious I'm not against you posting. But for some reason you tried to paint it as such. After this exchange I actually don't think you did it because you're mafia. So what am I left with? fuck you palmar. im done
7. Mocsta forgets all about this Palmar outburst and votes Conversion based on Palmar's really really weak case on Conversion: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 22:36 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:31 Palmar wrote:I don't like Conversion's filter. I especially hate this post: On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today.
did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?”
if not I’d like to lynch him We all know he could've checked the answer in like 3 mouse clicks. He's not posting because he wants to know whether this happened. He's posting because he's very gently asking other people to allow him to have the position that he's considering having. It's a really, really scummy post. hmmm took me a few reads to understand this, and yes I get it now. If the read is strong, he would check it himself an ask for "have the position" as eloquently said. If the read is weak, he should sheep,which he does not allude to in the slightest. Even considering he is busy this is very lazy for town play. Good pick up and Im happy to vote ##Vote:;Conversion
This case essentially boiled down to Conversion was too lazy to look up a point??????????????? It was enough to dissuade Mocsta from his earlier qualms with Palmar, enough to look past everything and vote for it, it was SO compelling. I don't believe it for a second. There's no way someone goes from that much hate to complacency and sheeping unless it was faked anger.
If he liked this case enough to sheep Palmar then why, knowing that I would lynch Palmar, did Mocsta not switch his vote off of me either? He was still voting me for mayor the entire time too.
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