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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 05 2019 12:27 GMT
#3161
Wow
I read my filter today and thought it was good lol

If im alive tomorrow will respond

Hf. Seriously. I applaud yoyr effort but it is was a waste of your time making this.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 12:27 GMT
#3162
That’s a decent case
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 12:28 GMT
#3163
No time my ass
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 05 2019 12:30 GMT
#3164
On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case

Why?

Its taking worsw case explanation

A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge.

Hf does this every game we play when im town
I simply am not wishy washy when scum.

Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 05 2019 12:31 GMT
#3165
On March 05 2019 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
No time my ass
??? Why be like this ???
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 12:33 GMT
#3166
On March 05 2019 21:31 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
No time my ass
??? Why be like this ???

What? Hf said he had no time yesterday and he just made a big ass case, that’s all. Hakuna your tatas
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 05 2019 12:34 GMT
#3167
On March 05 2019 17:57 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 17:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't get the palmar kill.
I get why hf would say he's going to lynch palmar but I really thought he was going to go on something stronger than 'Well I said I would' when deciding who to kill. He had already got himself a ton of info, could have got even more by killing someone else.

My townread on rsoultin is fading fast. Something about the way she kickstarted the trfel train and the got out of the way at the last second.


so many people have said this now that its probably true and her scum buddys keep bringing it up

Like who?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 12:34 GMT
#3168
On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case

Why?

Its taking worsw case explanation

A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge.

Hf does this every game we play when im town
I simply am not wishy washy when scum.

Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it?

I will admit you didn’t sound scummy to me from the few posts I’d read.

I did just check sentinel’s filter though and I’m struggling to see where you got anything about not liking acro from it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
March 05 2019 12:35 GMT
#3169
On March 05 2019 21:27 Mocsta wrote:
Wow
I read my filter today and thought it was good lol

If im alive tomorrow will respond

Hf. Seriously. I applaud yoyr effort but it is was a waste of your time making this.

Pay no attention to HF. He's just doing busywork until a vig gets him. I'm 99% certain he flips red.

@HF: keep up the good work. Keep the content coming before you die!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 05 2019 12:36 GMT
#3170
On March 05 2019 21:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 21:31 Mocsta wrote:
On March 05 2019 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
No time my ass
??? Why be like this ???

What? Hf said he had no time yesterday and he just made a big ass case, that’s all. Hakuna your tatas
roger

Kk night
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 05 2019 12:36 GMT
#3171
On March 05 2019 18:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 18:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 05 2019 18:04 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 17:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't get the palmar kill.
I get why hf would say he's going to lynch palmar but I really thought he was going to go on something stronger than 'Well I said I would' when deciding who to kill. He had already got himself a ton of info, could have got even more by killing someone else.

My townread on rsoultin is fading fast. Something about the way she kickstarted the trfel train and the got out of the way at the last second.


That's fair. I think I look bad, too xD

I will say though that all this 'I didn't think he'd do what he said he would' stuff is pretty blah. HF did it. Figure out what that makes him. This just reads like you don't want to be associated with the flip.


This is exactly what I intend to do.
What are you thinking about hf currently?


Him lynching Palmar changes absolutely nothing for me lol >< I am not the sort of idiot who thinks that someone being wrong makes them scum, or that going after a 'top town player if he's town' makes them scum (biased here cause I know I'm town but whatevs).

I'm willing to admit that I could be wrong on him just like any other player, but I still think how he's played and how he interacted with rayn in particular when they were fighting comes from a town HF. And I'd like to be right about something so there's that lol ><

Neither of those things are why I want HF dead, btw.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
March 05 2019 12:36 GMT
#3172
What I like about hf's case here is that it shows that mocsta is fully getting behind one POV and then completely changing 180 more than once.
That would suggest that it isn't the totality of someone's posting that is causing him to change his mind but other factors like voting scores, and looking 'aligned' to a certain group.
RIP Meatloaf <3
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 12:37 GMT
#3173
On March 05 2019 21:35 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 21:27 Mocsta wrote:
Wow
I read my filter today and thought it was good lol

If im alive tomorrow will respond

Hf. Seriously. I applaud yoyr effort but it is was a waste of your time making this.

Pay no attention to HF. He's just doing busywork until a vig gets him. I'm 99% certain he flips red.

@HF: keep up the good work. Keep the content coming before you die!

that's a very high percentage bro
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 05 2019 12:37 GMT
#3174
On March 05 2019 21:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:
On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case

Why?

Its taking worsw case explanation

A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge.

Hf does this every game we play when im town
I simply am not wishy washy when scum.

Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it?

I will admit you didn’t sound scummy to me from the few posts I’d read.

I did just check sentinel’s filter though and I’m struggling to see where you got anything about not liking acro from it
does it matter?

It was either in sentinel sicklucker or palmar.
Thise were the first three i read.

I read sicklucker because j thought he was tubesock. I wanted to read tubesock cos last game i played with him he was a very well reasoned and rstiinal town viice that i thought woukd br an easy read.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 05 2019 12:39 GMT
#3175
On March 05 2019 21:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
What I like about hf's case here is that it shows that mocsta is fully getting behind one POV and then completely changing 180 more than once.
That would suggest that it isn't the totality of someone's posting that is causing him to change his mind but other factors like voting scores, and looking 'aligned' to a certain group.
no. Its just someone who is heavily biased by his read on people

Its a problem i know. Im trying ro be better.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
March 05 2019 12:42 GMT
#3176
On March 05 2019 21:36 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 21:33 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2019 21:31 Mocsta wrote:
On March 05 2019 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
No time my ass
??? Why be like this ???

What? Hf said he had no time yesterday and he just made a big ass case, that’s all. Hakuna your tatas
roger

Kk night

Actually, he did bring up one interesting point. I hadn't even noticed I didn't appear (cntrl-f) in Sentinel's filter until his giant list post, which is after you "didn't like what I looked like". So how did you find me "through sentinel's filter"? Just run us through the events please, because the timeline doesn't make sense.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
March 05 2019 12:45 GMT
#3177
On March 05 2019 21:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 18:09 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 18:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 05 2019 18:04 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 17:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't get the palmar kill.
I get why hf would say he's going to lynch palmar but I really thought he was going to go on something stronger than 'Well I said I would' when deciding who to kill. He had already got himself a ton of info, could have got even more by killing someone else.

My townread on rsoultin is fading fast. Something about the way she kickstarted the trfel train and the got out of the way at the last second.


That's fair. I think I look bad, too xD

I will say though that all this 'I didn't think he'd do what he said he would' stuff is pretty blah. HF did it. Figure out what that makes him. This just reads like you don't want to be associated with the flip.


This is exactly what I intend to do.
What are you thinking about hf currently?


Him lynching Palmar changes absolutely nothing for me lol >< I am not the sort of idiot who thinks that someone being wrong makes them scum, or that going after a 'top town player if he's town' makes them scum (biased here cause I know I'm town but whatevs).

I'm willing to admit that I could be wrong on him just like any other player, but I still think how he's played and how he interacted with rayn in particular when they were fighting comes from a town HF. And I'd like to be right about something so there's that lol ><

Neither of those things are why I want HF dead, btw.


What's the number one reason for wanting him dead?
RIP Meatloaf <3
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 05 2019 12:45 GMT
#3178
On March 05 2019 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 18:28 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 17:06 AMG wrote:
On March 05 2019 16:50 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 16:42 AMG wrote:
On March 05 2019 16:31 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 05 2019 15:51 AMG wrote:
151 pages... you cannot be serious!

I started playing here nearly a decade ago under the name Adam4167, some of you ive played with, most of the rest Ive spectated games you were in.

Now, if someone could tell me on a scale of 1 to 10 the level of shit ive waded into, 1 being my socks would get wet and 10 being if i open my mouth I die of E.coli?


I can't talk about pages 1-100 but as Day 1 came to an end, there was a 3-way race for mayor between Holyflare and Palmar, and to a lesser extent Iamperfection. There was no clear lead for who would be lynched, with Trfel, Oats, Acro, and Conversion all hitting 4-5 votes at one point or another.

With about 6 hours left in the day, I came by and basically admitted there was no way I was going to read the first 100 pages, and said that it would be fine to lynch me so someone else would have a chance to play through Day 2 and enjoy the game (basically martyring). I lobbed down a self-vote (which later turned out to be not allowed), and voted for the guy who most recently got a mayor vote, Palmar.

Following this, I got a wave of votes - from HF, Acro, Grack, and Iamp, who seemed extremely pleased with himself for figuring out that he should vote me.

Over the next couple of hours, mayor voting consolidated, with HF and Palmar being neck and neck, and iamp falling behind. HF ran on a platform of lynching Palmar, and Palmar ran on a platform of lynching Sent for a variety of reasons inclusive of a policy lynch of Sent for failing to read his role PM.

with about a half an hour left in the game, rayn, FF, iamp, Damdred brought HF to several votes over HF, pushing him into a comfortable lead over Palmar, and most of the votes consolidated onto either me or Trfel.

with 10 minutes left, HF basically had the mayor vote locked up, 4 votes ahead of Palmar, thanks to Damdred and Iamp also hopping on his mayor wagon. For the lynch, I had 10 votes to Trfel's 9:

Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, Vivax, rsoultin, Conversion
Trfel (9): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales

You'll note my vote isn't on Trfel here, I keep it on Iamp since he's a shitter and I don't want to accidentally get someone other than me lynched.

The last 10 minutes are shenannies:

Exo comes in and votes me, making it 11-9.

3 minutes to the deadline, Vivax swaps over from me to Trfel, tying it up at 10-10 (though i'll be lynched in this tie)

2 minutes to the deadline, Lightingstrike jumps from his irrelevant rsoultin vote onto me, making it 11 votes on me, 10 on Trfel.

1 Minute from the Deadline, conversion hops off of me and onto Trfel, causing Trfel to have 11 votes and me to have 10.

Trfel flips Doctor.

HF uses his mayoral power to kill Palmar, the backup Cop.





An attempted self vote BH? youve changed man!

In the world you're pitching to me, where both you and Trfel are town, why are these people switching votes with 1-2 minutes left on the clock at all, rather than just doing nothing?


There's a couple of possibilities.

for vivax and conversion, they might be townies who legitimately think Trfel was suspicious, and in their heart they nullread me and hope I get vigied or mayor-killed. Trfel was whining a lot as the deadline approached, which might have contributed to them dislike him. If they're scum, the last minute shenannies may have been for any reason - perhaps they thought I was sure to be a VT due to my lack of concern with being killed, and Trfel was Blue due to his whining (both of which turn out to be true), or in the case of Scum-Vivax, hoping to look like someone who tried and failed to avert the tragic lynch of town blazinghand since his voteswap didn't actually save me.

For LS, I think he just accepted my martyring as "scum or useless, let's kill him" and realized his vote on rsoultin was doing literally nothing. if he's scum, he might ahve been trying to get onto a main wagon to avoid suspicion for staying out of the main battle.

despite HF's promise to shoot Palmar with the mayor power, maybe they thought he'd use it on me. Maybe (and perhaps correctly) they figured I'd be vigged anyways. maybe they thought my lynch would be boring and provide little info.

And in any case, if you're scum, making a bit fuss out of two competing town wagons can make you look good if you pull it off right, since...

well, imagine you have a theory of "BH is scum, and conversion, his scumbuddy, saved him at the last minute"

In this case, you lynch or vig BH first, because conversion's scum-nature is contingent on mine. And if you're conversion, you know town will think this, and lynch me first, and when I flip town, Conversion is then off the hook. by shenanniying from me onto Trfel, he sets up a Day 2 mislynch, theoretically speaking.

though that's fairly WIFOMey, it's the kind of play I like to do as scum. I'm sure there are others who use it.


Yeah thats fairly WIFOM stuff, Ill have to read how the lynch played out myself and get back to you.

If you could flip 3 people right now, who are they?


Me, HF, and Conversion would lay clear all the facts about what went down at the end of D1. I think a lot of questions and WIFOM get washed away when HF and conv flip, and doubly so for me - at least from the POV of people who aren't me. Also, flipping me now means our blues get to take better night actions, freeing up a vigi shot for someone else. A lot of the meat of what we need to dig into is what went down as we rolled towards the deadline D1. We know HF killed Palm, who flipped blue, and Conv's vote on Trfel killed Trfel and saved me. Flipping HF and Conv who made these ruinous decisions would lay it all out. Flipping me would also end all this stupid analysis where people assume I'm scum and go from there.

Though it might be wiser to go back through and see who has contributed least and maybe sub them in for one or two of these guys, just because any low activity players you can't get a read on are going to be either scum or a liability in the lategame (since scum won't shoot them obvs)

And really, when it comes down to it, HF should have had his finger on that dial, ready to send in a "actually i'm killing BH" pm to hosts when it was a 1-vote spread between me and Trfel's wagon. I may be the shenanigan king, but lots of people know to stick around the deadline, particularly when things are so close.

Bear in mind, in the final moments leading up to the shenannies, HF is there, in the thread, comming on last minute mafia activity (link) and saying that I am a "secure mafia lynch" (3 minutes before deadline). HF was there, in the thread, when the votes shifted. He watched it happen. He complained about it. He said I was scum.

Bear in mind, if HF truly thinks I was scum, he knew that at that point, the vote was tied 10-10 and I hadn't yet voted! All I had to do was cast a vote on Trfel and Trfel would die and I would live, HF, supposedly thinking i'm scum and in this situation, while we're both in the thread, with minutes to go, who thinks i'm "secure" as mafia, apparently decided to go for Palmar instead.

In the end, HF hung out in the thread, watched the shenannies threaten to kill Trfel over me, tie up the vote with me still not voted on Trfel, then the vote goes onto Trfel and Trfel takes the lead, all while claiming I'm "secure mafia lynch"

if I were in this situation I would be on a hair trigger, ready to take down the "secure mafia lynch" that is only winning by a 1-vote margin in case of shenannies.

He will have many pretty, fancy reasons for why he did this, of course. He may even be town, town is wrong and screws up all the time. The host's vote counts were not very quick and accurate in the final minutes. But them's the things that happened. So yeah, I'd flip him along with me and conv ezpz and we'd see the truth.


The main reason is I just didn't care and if Palmar flipped mafia that would be pretty cool.

I mean that's cool and all, but if we lose this game and you're town

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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 05 2019 12:46 GMT
#3179
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twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 05 2019 12:49 GMT
#3180
On March 05 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 21:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 05 2019 18:09 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 18:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 05 2019 18:04 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 17:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
I don't get the palmar kill.
I get why hf would say he's going to lynch palmar but I really thought he was going to go on something stronger than 'Well I said I would' when deciding who to kill. He had already got himself a ton of info, could have got even more by killing someone else.

My townread on rsoultin is fading fast. Something about the way she kickstarted the trfel train and the got out of the way at the last second.


That's fair. I think I look bad, too xD

I will say though that all this 'I didn't think he'd do what he said he would' stuff is pretty blah. HF did it. Figure out what that makes him. This just reads like you don't want to be associated with the flip.


This is exactly what I intend to do.
What are you thinking about hf currently?


Him lynching Palmar changes absolutely nothing for me lol >< I am not the sort of idiot who thinks that someone being wrong makes them scum, or that going after a 'top town player if he's town' makes them scum (biased here cause I know I'm town but whatevs).

I'm willing to admit that I could be wrong on him just like any other player, but I still think how he's played and how he interacted with rayn in particular when they were fighting comes from a town HF. And I'd like to be right about something so there's that lol ><

Neither of those things are why I want HF dead, btw.


What's the number one reason for wanting him dead?

I'm not repeating myself again. Answer is obvious and in my filter.

I'll be posting better soon because I have a slow work day
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