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On April 14 2018 18:31 Vivax wrote:That depends really. On whether rayn is town or not this game. Cause I could see it coming from a mile away that mafia Oats wouldn't vote HF and while I initially thought it was HF + rayn I'm now thinking it could be HF + CH, yes I know HF "tried" to lynch him (this is where Tubesocks logic was funny that HF always gets the lynch he wants). So basically whoever is town between CH and rayn has the hammer. But then there's still a day after. Oh and regarding the math all your calculations are bollocks if you don't multiply by the chance there's a miller and/or a GF which are respectively the same in regards to math cause just cuz there's a cop doesn't mean there has to be a miller and a GF. And there can be both or only one of them additionally to a framer which makes your statistics completely pointless so tl;dr: Don't try to math this. And currentlyhopeless also forgot to unvote before voting me. If he isn't kush he sure is full of it.
what are you actually talking about
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this claim is completely untrustworthy and we dont actually need to lynch those 2 today
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On April 14 2018 18:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
this claim is completely untrustworthy and we dont actually need to lynch those 2 today
wtf
explain how the claim is untrustworthy
we’ll wait
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On April 14 2018 18:38 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 18:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
this claim is completely untrustworthy and we dont actually need to lynch those 2 today wtf explain how the claim is untrustworthy we’ll wait
exos shady af what more do you need to know?
Also 3 blue roles is bad balance
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also the check might not even be correct even if hes not lying
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It's not bad balance and his claim wasn't THAT shady
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On April 14 2018 17:53 Skynx wrote:
Bah Tubesock is full tinfoil mode and homeless is mafia.
It's not too bad actually, if rayn and Oats are sane we should still have the lynch.
I get way more tinfoil than this game. CH is the only person alive in the game I think is truly 100% town. Not even Exo is and I believe his claim.
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On April 14 2018 18:45 Holyflare wrote:
It's not bad balance and his claim wasn't THAT shady
i know you explained it but at least 3 confirmed townies is bad.
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Amount of people that have called me town with a potential red check is incredibly high. Too high maybe.
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On April 14 2018 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 18:38 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 14 2018 18:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
this claim is completely untrustworthy and we dont actually need to lynch those 2 today wtf explain how the claim is untrustworthy we’ll wait exos shady af what more do you need to know? Also 3 blue roles is bad balance
Then vote ExO wtf. If you think he's lying then he should be 100% mafia to you, lol.
I also have no idea what people are smoking. Instead of trying to figure out what alignments HF and rayn (who are like RLY GUD AT SCUM) are, or whether ExO claim makes sense (hint: it does), half the thread's dismissing the checks because of implausible role WIFOM. If HF/ rayn/ ExO actually WERE all town, why would mafia NOT try and vote one of them off? They'd have the perfect excuse.
It's almost like there actually is a mafia in those names and they are stalling super-hard right now. Which is why I'm somehow getting lynched despite there being an unresolved cop claim.
We have already seen how detrimental Eversince's unresolved claim (with the WIFOM, the mistakes, the implausible scenarios, the gun fuckery WHICH IS STILL A THING) was so anyone who thinks that leaving the cop claim/ checks around is either retarded or mafia.
No matter how you spin it, the odds that the checks are legit are considerably higher and no amount of prattle about "Millers" or "Framers" is going to change that.
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On April 14 2018 19:00 Holyflare wrote:
Amount of people that have called me town with a potential red check is incredibly high. Too high maybe.
Why? It’s no different than your no townreads. I think your 90’s percentile town. Same rayn. But you’re not confirmed.
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On April 14 2018 19:02 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 14 2018 18:38 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 14 2018 18:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
this claim is completely untrustworthy and we dont actually need to lynch those 2 today wtf explain how the claim is untrustworthy we’ll wait exos shady af what more do you need to know? Also 3 blue roles is bad balance Then vote ExO wtf. If you think he's lying then he should be 100% mafia to you, lol. I also have no idea what people are smoking. Instead of trying to figure out what alignments HF and rayn (who are like RLY GUD AT SCUM) are, or whether ExO claim makes sense (hint: it does), half the thread's dismissing the checks because of implausible role WIFOM. If HF/ rayn/ ExO actually WERE all town, why would mafia NOT try and vote one of them off? They'd have the perfect excuse. It's almost like there actually is a mafia in those names and they are stalling super-hard right now. Which is why I'm somehow getting lynched despite there being an unresolved cop claim. We have already seen how detrimental Eversince's unresolved claim (with the WIFOM, the mistakes, the implausible scenarios, the gun fuckery WHICH IS STILL A THING) was so anyone who thinks that leaving the cop claim/ checks around is either retarded or mafia. No matter how you spin it, the odds that the checks are legit are considerably higher and no amount of prattle about "Millers" or "Framers" is going to change that.
tl;dr
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On April 14 2018 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 18:38 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 14 2018 18:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
this claim is completely untrustworthy and we dont actually need to lynch those 2 today wtf explain how the claim is untrustworthy we’ll wait exos shady af what more do you need to know? Also 3 blue roles is bad balance
Why are you voting calix then lol?
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For people who are allergic to wall-posts, I'll make a tl;dr.
LEAVING CLAIMS UNRESOLVED = BAD.
USING ROLE WIFOM OVER ANALYSIS = ALSO BAD.
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On April 14 2018 19:04 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 19:02 Calix wrote:On April 14 2018 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 14 2018 18:38 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 14 2018 18:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
this claim is completely untrustworthy and we dont actually need to lynch those 2 today wtf explain how the claim is untrustworthy we’ll wait exos shady af what more do you need to know? Also 3 blue roles is bad balance Then vote ExO wtf. If you think he's lying then he should be 100% mafia to you, lol. I also have no idea what people are smoking. Instead of trying to figure out what alignments HF and rayn (who are like RLY GUD AT SCUM) are, or whether ExO claim makes sense (hint: it does), half the thread's dismissing the checks because of implausible role WIFOM. If HF/ rayn/ ExO actually WERE all town, why would mafia NOT try and vote one of them off? They'd have the perfect excuse. It's almost like there actually is a mafia in those names and they are stalling super-hard right now. Which is why I'm somehow getting lynched despite there being an unresolved cop claim. We have already seen how detrimental Eversince's unresolved claim (with the WIFOM, the mistakes, the implausible scenarios, the gun fuckery WHICH IS STILL A THING) was so anyone who thinks that leaving the cop claim/ checks around is either retarded or mafia. No matter how you spin it, the odds that the checks are legit are considerably higher and no amount of prattle about "Millers" or "Framers" is going to change that. tl;dr
Ha.
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Calix. There are three claimed blue players in a 13 player game. What roles do you think mafia have?
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You're not even evaluating the cop checks properly at all. You think we should "resolve" it but that means lynching me or rayn and if you lynch me you auto rayn next cycle and if one of those roles do exist you just lose.
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On April 14 2018 19:04 Calix wrote:
For people who are allergic to wall-posts, I'll make a tl;dr.
LEAVING CLAIMS UNRESOLVED = BAD.
USING ROLE WIFOM OVER ANALYSIS = ALSO BAD.
therefore scum is??
i actually dont get it. if people think one of hf and rayn is scum when they dont even seem to think the other is scum then what does resolving the claim even mean
analysis over role wifom is exactly why the check doesnt in the end mean anything useful.
if one of them were actually scum i would have expected the actual scum to bite the bait and vote the other one. hf voted rayn but that was before the claim iirc. though who knows maybe he is scum and realized that would look bad and backed off but that is such a more convoluted explnation than them both being town
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On April 14 2018 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
Calix. There are three claimed blue players in a 13 player game. What roles do you think mafia have?
So we have confirmed GS. And then PC and Vet. I don't think the current claimed setup is that bad. And nobody else is claiming blue.
RBer, Role Cop, Framer/ Godfather seems alright. I say RC to help with finding the hypothetical three blues. I'm not sure whether Miller would be a thing. Two anti-cop roles against Parity Cop seems like overkill. Which is why I don't find the role hype convincing.
Just my two cents.
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Even if you think we definitely contain mafia in this 50/50 there's 2 mafia left outside of the claims.
9 players left, in a group of 3 you think one is definitely mafia for some unknown reason.
5 players (don't include yourself obviously from your perspective) contain 2 mafia. One of those players (ts) is claimed blue. So you have 4 players to find 2 mafia in:
Ch, vivax, Skynx, oats.
I'm pretty sure I've seen you say vivax is town maybe (could be completely bs that I just made up but he's either mafia playing the most spammy game of his life by almost double the filter size or town) so that's oats/ch/skynx contains two mafia.
Why do you want to lynch a shit show that might not even contain mafia when you have a 66% chance (or higher, 100%! if we were framed!) to find mafia?
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