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On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are
Ah true true
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On April 14 2018 16:04 Holyflare wrote:
I have one read on vivax that's weak and did have even weaker reads on ch/rayn but I pretty much have no town reads. Maybe tube actually. Didn't talk about tube though so vivax is correct that that statement is bad.
wtf this makes no sense
exo is not a town read??
are you scum?
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On April 14 2018 16:11 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 07:33 Holyflare wrote:
Why are you saying it like I haven't evaluated anything? I've spent the whole game evaluating these people. I thought exo was mafia, he was pushed as mafia and was most likely to be mafia. I'm insanely wary of his claim. I snap voted rayn and said vivax was town at the beginning of the day because i spent the last few minutes before deadline combing vivax's mafia games and he's right, 13 pages would be a record for him as mafia. Max he had was 8 day 3 in a 160 page game. When I concluded this and saw the nk I thought it was 100% rayn mafia because if vivax is town and I'm town shitting up the thread with vivax leaving me alive with him is optimal mafia play and fake voted rayn to see what would happen. Nobody reacted and exo claimed so kind of wasted my attempt but if rayn town reads me and I town read rayn and we both were wary of vivax and none of us three died then I'd always think it was rayn at this point.
Thus I couldn't really decide between the two which I trusted more. I thought exo's claims had holes but it didn't so much after I looked into it and the more I thought about the setup the more balanced it seemed. After that I remembered tubesock quoting you with a definite blue soft to not get lynched (yes, keep repeating that it wasn't, we get it). If we lynched rayn and he turned out to actually be town (like I initially thought last cycle) then I kind of thought the game would be over in my mind (sleep deprivation) and was a bit of a risk. Since you softed blue and there were three blues already it's a far better shot at lynching you and letting the blue claim resolve itself. ah look town read rayn too vivax scum
I think you just read something about rayn town and concluded it was a rayn townread when HF concludes with "then I'd always think it was rayn at this point". So no, doesn't look much like a TR to me. But I'm sure HF can clarify?
On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are
Awesome so you're doing the same shit Oats did when he pretended to know what HF wanted to do at EoD when he switched off me. You just pretended to know what his unsaid townreads were.
Are all the mafias this game actually just dancing around an HF idol and being his spokespersons?
In that case I can name three peeps off the top of my hat who fall into that profile and it's calix, oats, CH.
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On April 14 2018 16:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:11 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 14 2018 07:33 Holyflare wrote:
Why are you saying it like I haven't evaluated anything? I've spent the whole game evaluating these people. I thought exo was mafia, he was pushed as mafia and was most likely to be mafia. I'm insanely wary of his claim. I snap voted rayn and said vivax was town at the beginning of the day because i spent the last few minutes before deadline combing vivax's mafia games and he's right, 13 pages would be a record for him as mafia. Max he had was 8 day 3 in a 160 page game. When I concluded this and saw the nk I thought it was 100% rayn mafia because if vivax is town and I'm town shitting up the thread with vivax leaving me alive with him is optimal mafia play and fake voted rayn to see what would happen. Nobody reacted and exo claimed so kind of wasted my attempt but if rayn town reads me and I town read rayn and we both were wary of vivax and none of us three died then I'd always think it was rayn at this point.
Thus I couldn't really decide between the two which I trusted more. I thought exo's claims had holes but it didn't so much after I looked into it and the more I thought about the setup the more balanced it seemed. After that I remembered tubesock quoting you with a definite blue soft to not get lynched (yes, keep repeating that it wasn't, we get it). If we lynched rayn and he turned out to actually be town (like I initially thought last cycle) then I kind of thought the game would be over in my mind (sleep deprivation) and was a bit of a risk. Since you softed blue and there were three blues already it's a far better shot at lynching you and letting the blue claim resolve itself. ah look town read rayn too vivax scum I think you just read something about rayn town and concluded it was a rayn townread when HF concludes with "then I'd always think it was rayn at this point". So no, doesn't look much like a TR to me. But I'm sure HF can clarify? Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Awesome so you're doing the same shit Oats did when he pretended to know what HF wanted to do at EoD when he switched off me. You just pretended to know what his unsaid townreads were. Are all the mafias this game actually just dancing around an HF idol and being his spokespersons? In that case I can name three peeps off the top of my hat who fall into that profile and it's calix, oats, CH.
cool you made up a list of 3 names on sometjing pointless
if you actually believ that horseshit why wouldnt you vote calix then
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On April 14 2018 16:20 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:18 Vivax wrote:On April 14 2018 16:11 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 14 2018 07:33 Holyflare wrote:
Why are you saying it like I haven't evaluated anything? I've spent the whole game evaluating these people. I thought exo was mafia, he was pushed as mafia and was most likely to be mafia. I'm insanely wary of his claim. I snap voted rayn and said vivax was town at the beginning of the day because i spent the last few minutes before deadline combing vivax's mafia games and he's right, 13 pages would be a record for him as mafia. Max he had was 8 day 3 in a 160 page game. When I concluded this and saw the nk I thought it was 100% rayn mafia because if vivax is town and I'm town shitting up the thread with vivax leaving me alive with him is optimal mafia play and fake voted rayn to see what would happen. Nobody reacted and exo claimed so kind of wasted my attempt but if rayn town reads me and I town read rayn and we both were wary of vivax and none of us three died then I'd always think it was rayn at this point.
Thus I couldn't really decide between the two which I trusted more. I thought exo's claims had holes but it didn't so much after I looked into it and the more I thought about the setup the more balanced it seemed. After that I remembered tubesock quoting you with a definite blue soft to not get lynched (yes, keep repeating that it wasn't, we get it). If we lynched rayn and he turned out to actually be town (like I initially thought last cycle) then I kind of thought the game would be over in my mind (sleep deprivation) and was a bit of a risk. Since you softed blue and there were three blues already it's a far better shot at lynching you and letting the blue claim resolve itself. ah look town read rayn too vivax scum I think you just read something about rayn town and concluded it was a rayn townread when HF concludes with "then I'd always think it was rayn at this point". So no, doesn't look much like a TR to me. But I'm sure HF can clarify? On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Awesome so you're doing the same shit Oats did when he pretended to know what HF wanted to do at EoD when he switched off me. You just pretended to know what his unsaid townreads were. Are all the mafias this game actually just dancing around an HF idol and being his spokespersons? In that case I can name three peeps off the top of my hat who fall into that profile and it's calix, oats, CH. cool you made up a list of 3 names on sometjing pointless if you actually believ that horseshit why wouldnt you vote calix then
Why wouldn't you vote calix is a better question. Your read on her is nonexistent but you have a town read on HF for scummy reasons.
I have a good reason and it's that I wanted to lynch HF as top priority but now that I see what kind of things you base your reads upon I'm not that sure any more.
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On April 14 2018 16:16 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Ah true true
Wtf is this shit HF? All you have been doing about ExO today is doubting his claim. Or is this some kind of joke and if it is why aren't you trying to get this dude lynched over yourself after stating blatantly false facts.
Is this game some kind of truman show where I'm the protagonist or are you both mafia?
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On April 14 2018 16:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:16 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Ah true true Wtf is this shit HF? All you have been doing about ExO today is doubting his claim. Or is this some kind of joke and if it is why aren't you trying to get this dude lynched over yourself after stating blatantly false facts. Is this game some kind of truman show where I'm the protagonist or are you both mafia?
Perhaps read the discussion again.
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On April 14 2018 16:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:32 Vivax wrote:On April 14 2018 16:16 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Ah true true Wtf is this shit HF? All you have been doing about ExO today is doubting his claim. Or is this some kind of joke and if it is why aren't you trying to get this dude lynched over yourself after stating blatantly false facts. Is this game some kind of truman show where I'm the protagonist or are you both mafia? Perhaps read the discussion again.
Your stuff on ExO is inconclusive. He isn't a townread you just say that parity cop is compatible with the setup which isn't even a reason to believe his claim especially since that claim is getting you lynched. CH turns it into a townread on ExO.
You say that with a rayn townread and all three of staying alive it probably means rayn is mafia and CH turns it into you having a rayn townread.
All of this cause otherwise it wouldn't have made any sense for him to make that read on you since your only visible townread besides those was me who is CHs primary scumread. So he's pretty much trying super hard to bend what you said to fit his version.
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On April 14 2018 16:28 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:20 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 14 2018 16:18 Vivax wrote:On April 14 2018 16:11 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 14 2018 07:33 Holyflare wrote:
Why are you saying it like I haven't evaluated anything? I've spent the whole game evaluating these people. I thought exo was mafia, he was pushed as mafia and was most likely to be mafia. I'm insanely wary of his claim. I snap voted rayn and said vivax was town at the beginning of the day because i spent the last few minutes before deadline combing vivax's mafia games and he's right, 13 pages would be a record for him as mafia. Max he had was 8 day 3 in a 160 page game. When I concluded this and saw the nk I thought it was 100% rayn mafia because if vivax is town and I'm town shitting up the thread with vivax leaving me alive with him is optimal mafia play and fake voted rayn to see what would happen. Nobody reacted and exo claimed so kind of wasted my attempt but if rayn town reads me and I town read rayn and we both were wary of vivax and none of us three died then I'd always think it was rayn at this point.
Thus I couldn't really decide between the two which I trusted more. I thought exo's claims had holes but it didn't so much after I looked into it and the more I thought about the setup the more balanced it seemed. After that I remembered tubesock quoting you with a definite blue soft to not get lynched (yes, keep repeating that it wasn't, we get it). If we lynched rayn and he turned out to actually be town (like I initially thought last cycle) then I kind of thought the game would be over in my mind (sleep deprivation) and was a bit of a risk. Since you softed blue and there were three blues already it's a far better shot at lynching you and letting the blue claim resolve itself. ah look town read rayn too vivax scum I think you just read something about rayn town and concluded it was a rayn townread when HF concludes with "then I'd always think it was rayn at this point". So no, doesn't look much like a TR to me. But I'm sure HF can clarify? On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Awesome so you're doing the same shit Oats did when he pretended to know what HF wanted to do at EoD when he switched off me. You just pretended to know what his unsaid townreads were. Are all the mafias this game actually just dancing around an HF idol and being his spokespersons? In that case I can name three peeps off the top of my hat who fall into that profile and it's calix, oats, CH. cool you made up a list of 3 names on sometjing pointless if you actually believ that horseshit why wouldnt you vote calix then Why wouldn't you vote calix is a better question. Your read on her is nonexistent but you have a town read on HF for scummy reasons. I have a good reason and it's that I wanted to lynch HF as top priority but now that I see what kind of things you base your reads upon I'm not that sure any more.
so if you townread someone now youre supposed to sheep them on everything?
no wonder you just sheeped people this game, that only makes sense if youre scum and cant come up with your own reads
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On April 14 2018 16:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:37 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:32 Vivax wrote:On April 14 2018 16:16 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Ah true true Wtf is this shit HF? All you have been doing about ExO today is doubting his claim. Or is this some kind of joke and if it is why aren't you trying to get this dude lynched over yourself after stating blatantly false facts. Is this game some kind of truman show where I'm the protagonist or are you both mafia? Perhaps read the discussion again. Your stuff on ExO is inconclusive. He isn't a townread you just say that parity cop is compatible with the setup which isn't even a reason to believe his claim especially since that claim is getting you lynched. CH turns it into a townread on ExO. You say that with a rayn townread and all three of staying alive it probably means rayn is mafia and CH turns it into you having a rayn townread. All of this cause otherwise it wouldn't have made any sense for him to make that read on you since your only visible townread besides those was me who is CHs primary scumread. So he's pretty much trying super hard to bend what you said to fit his version.
keep digging broski
how the fuck is no one else noticing this shit
vivax keeps proving again and again that he isnt reading at all. this is 100% scum play
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On April 14 2018 16:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:37 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:32 Vivax wrote:On April 14 2018 16:16 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Ah true true Wtf is this shit HF? All you have been doing about ExO today is doubting his claim. Or is this some kind of joke and if it is why aren't you trying to get this dude lynched over yourself after stating blatantly false facts. Is this game some kind of truman show where I'm the protagonist or are you both mafia? Perhaps read the discussion again. Your stuff on ExO is inconclusive. He isn't a townread you just say that parity cop is compatible with the setup which isn't even a reason to believe his claim especially since that claim is getting you lynched. CH turns it into a townread on ExO. You say that with a rayn townread and all three of staying alive it probably means rayn is mafia and CH turns it into you having a rayn townread. All of this cause otherwise it wouldn't have made any sense for him to make that read on you since your only visible townread besides those was me who is CHs primary scumread. So he's pretty much trying super hard to bend what you said to fit his version.
Yes, I agree that ch has extrapolated far too much. He's changed "he has good reasons to town read people eventually" to "he doesn't say he wants to lynch me or rayn so that's good".
Did write that I think exo wasn't likely to fake claim parity after I voted rayn and posted like I had a check though.
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On April 14 2018 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
Also bit of theory on exo. Don't think he claims parity like that if I open the day as if I had a red check on rayn.
there is nothing inconclusive here
this was like 100% in line with what i thought about exo’s claim. no scum claims like that plus tube claimed when unneeded too.
feel free to misconstrue what i said thiugh cause i refuse to take hf’s “i dont have any townreads” bs at face value. actually as scum i dont think anyone would ever be bold enough to say such a thing but w/e maybe i’m just wrong since hf is acting weird now too so i’m fucking confused
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I said that before that post didn't I?
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On April 14 2018 16:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 16:43 Vivax wrote:On April 14 2018 16:37 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:32 Vivax wrote:On April 14 2018 16:16 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 16:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
HF says he has no townreads in thread but is not pushing me or rayn or tube, says he believes the exo claim and gives a good reason for believing the exo claim which i actually thiught myself so the silent agreement is good
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are Ah true true Wtf is this shit HF? All you have been doing about ExO today is doubting his claim. Or is this some kind of joke and if it is why aren't you trying to get this dude lynched over yourself after stating blatantly false facts. Is this game some kind of truman show where I'm the protagonist or are you both mafia? Perhaps read the discussion again. Your stuff on ExO is inconclusive. He isn't a townread you just say that parity cop is compatible with the setup which isn't even a reason to believe his claim especially since that claim is getting you lynched. CH turns it into a townread on ExO. You say that with a rayn townread and all three of staying alive it probably means rayn is mafia and CH turns it into you having a rayn townread. All of this cause otherwise it wouldn't have made any sense for him to make that read on you since your only visible townread besides those was me who is CHs primary scumread. So he's pretty much trying super hard to bend what you said to fit his version. Yes, I agree that ch has extrapolated far too much. He's changed "he has good reasons to town read people eventually" to "he doesn't say he wants to lynch me or rayn so that's good". Did write that I think exo wasn't likely to fake claim parity after I voted rayn and posted like I had a check though.
That doesn't make much sense to me anyway as if this is hidden lylo for rayn with a gun and it looks like you redchecked him then CCing you like that is the best play cause no matter the flips, ExO doesn't look like he lied through his teeth. Not sure how you conclude that the claim was legit purely out of the reason you say which is the optimal scum play.
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Like if scum ExO ccs HF and HF gets lynched, scum won. Rayn gets lynched. Both cops still remain unresolved.
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On April 14 2018 17:02 Vivax wrote:
Like if scum ExO ccs HF and HF gets lynched, scum won. Rayn gets lynched. Both cops still remain unresolved.
wait what
if a pc gets cced, and the pc gets lynched first why wouldnt the ccer die second
if exo is scum and hf is actually pc, and exo ccs hf, if hf gets lynched first and flips pc we just kill exo and hit scum
why the fuck would rayn die
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oh the scumlogic only applies cause rayn apparnetly has a gun in this made up scenario
this was already proven to be impossible like 10 pages ago so this is just a waste of space & distraction
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On April 14 2018 17:07 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 17:02 Vivax wrote:
Like if scum ExO ccs HF and HF gets lynched, scum won. Rayn gets lynched. Both cops still remain unresolved. wait what if a pc gets cced, and the pc gets lynched first why wouldnt the ccer die second if exo is scum and hf is actually pc, and exo ccs hf, if hf gets lynched first and flips pc we just kill exo and hit scum why the fuck would rayn die
If exo is scum and hf is actually pc and hf gets lynched the next night scum have 2 KP and win the game.
READ: When rayn is scum with a gun.
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On April 14 2018 17:08 currentlyhomeless wrote:
oh the scumlogic only applies cause rayn apparnetly has a gun in this made up scenario
this was already proven to be impossible like 10 pages ago so this is just a waste of space & distraction
What is this nonsense about proven to be impossible. ES filter doesn't tell us anything. In one post she talks about having given her gun to rayn and in another she talks about rayn being conf town cause she didn't manage to give her gun to him cause she took what he said at face value.
Nowhere does it say she has some kind of inventory with a gun in it. Nobody has any damn clue about what actually happened that night except you it seems. Unless you wanna argue that hopeless was shot by that gun which is at best a decent guess cause I don't know why mafia would shoot hopeless here.
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On April 14 2018 15:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 13:04 ExO_ wrote:
You guys have got to be fucking kidding me. We have a check on Rayn and HF. One is scum. Yet everyone seems to have the opinion “they cant be scum because there’s got to be a miller or framer”
You’ve gotta be kidding me. Are your egos all this huge? That yours reads are so good that the check just has to be wrong in some super unlikely way or another?
Nobody has presented a compelling case for this in my opinion. And I dont believe for a second its in our interest to vote a 3rd candidate here.
Ill eat my words if there is a framer or miller, but we deserve to lose if we can’t get it together, look at Rayn, look at HF, and figure out which one is scum. what kind of compelling “case” do you expect if i think they are both town if i think they are both town one was framed or is a miller. end of story. yes the likelihood of that with nothing else happened in the game is lower but i dont need to make a case to say its more likely. just read the game, rayn has been trying hard especially recently to figure out the game with me and had very good posts. for example theres no way as scum that he would point out where credit is due when i found something on ever (unless he was scum trying to set me up to die? but i dont get this impression at all) hf is an asshole at times but a lot of the things he has said only make sense from town perspective. most of his townreads seem logical now even if it takes him a while to get there therefore both town, reads > unreliable blue checks i am more than 70% sure that they are both town and the check is nowhere near 70-80% certainty that one is scum because if there is a framer in this game literally the best targets are rayn and hf. if there is a framer in the game, like 90%+ certainty one of those 2 gets framed regardless of alignment. unless they are the framer themselves lol as for miller, let’s say there is one miller and what. 5 vts? 6 vts? 3 scum + miller + 3 blues = 7, 13 - 7 = 6 so miller & 6 VTs. 3 VTs already flipped so remaining non blues are 3 VTs and miller so if they are both town, chance that one of them is miller is 50% rofl
lol currentlyclueless, where do you get your fucking odds?
Framer+Miller
Rayn is framed/miller, hf is green: 2/12*6/10=0.1
rayn is green, hf is f/m: 9/12*2/10=0.15
Even assuming framer+miller odds of correct redcheck is still 60% which means we should lynch one of rayn/hf
Assuming there is a gf, both of them are mafia so still lynch one of rayn/hf
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