EPTOn April 26 2018 17:33 currentlyhomeless wrote:
he had a red check on him. He would have died because of that combined with “if he is town why is he still alive”
he had a red check on him. He would have died because of that combined with “if he is town why is he still alive”
I assumed you were referring to killing HF at ANY point in the game, my bad. If you're saying that killing HF on N1, for instance, would have lost you the game then I will say that it wasn't guaranteed that ExO would check rayn N2 in that scenario because his reads (and everyone else's) would be influenced by the kill to an extent. ExO might have checked a suspicious townie (or Oats) which could also have massively influenced the game.
On April 26 2018 17:35 currentlyhomeless wrote:
we didn’t lose because of the kills, that much is for sure.
the only kill that was objectively bad was the Vivax one but we were already in a losing position.
If there is a single action that lost us the game it was the RB. Everything else was down to our play.
we didn’t lose because of the kills, that much is for sure.
the only kill that was objectively bad was the Vivax one but we were already in a losing position.
If there is a single action that lost us the game it was the RB. Everything else was down to our play.
I don't think anyone would argue that roleblocking a PR (in isolation) is ever a bad play though. If rayn had received the gun then Eversince would not have been lynched D2 and either I get lynched or I try-hard and get someone else lynched. Roleblocking Eversince definitely changed the game a lot in that sense.
This is a lot of words to say "even one night kill/ action can influence the game a lot" lol. I think town would almost certainly have lost without the PRs this game.
Parity Cop definitely swung the game around in town's favour and that's not something mafia had a great deal of control over. In retrospect, ExO's play was more blue-oriented (he was never VT with his play but I thought he was mafia not blue) but you'd need meta to figure that one out and you hadn't played with him before. So it would have been difficult for the mafia to have found him early, I think.
In general, I think alignment-checking roles are OP and should not be used ever because they require no skill and deny mafia mislynches. Godfather/ Miller/ Framer are not good 'counters' in my opinion.
