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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
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Tubesock
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But you have to admit, there’s a lot of uncertainty? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 14 2018 10:36 ExO_ wrote: I hadnt considered gf, this is the only reasoning id buy for the check to be innaccurate— but it changes very little. It still means scum is there, confirmed. Well as someone who has died because I was framed and checked, I’m very aware of the possibility of a framer framing a town for a scum return. | ||
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Vivax
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On April 14 2018 10:36 ExO_ wrote: I hadnt considered gf, this is the only reasoning id buy for the check to be innaccurate— but it changes very little. It still means scum is there, confirmed. In theory you could have checked a rayn GF against a framed HF. It isn't the scenario I'm working with but you get the idea. I think parity cop is quite weak when you don't prime your check with a townie who is confirmed through flip or outstanding townieness and generally speaking only starts being useful from the third check on. So while you believe your check to be really meaningful...It doesn't have to be to everyone else. Which is why I don't agree that voting off HF + rayn automatically makes everyone scummy just cause you checked them. I wish that was the case as I really want to lynch both of them, but the reality isn't that. Either way I have given up on this game cause rayn + HF just can say and do whatever they want without being considered for mafia by a vast majority of townies. I won't be lynched and this is possibly my last forum game ever. So you can put together these statements to figure out what that means. | ||
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
On April 14 2018 10:13 ExO_ wrote: CH do you believe Im parity cop or not? If you do, Why the fuck are you focusibg on everyone but Rayn/HF? This highly unlikely shit about miller or framer is such garbage. Scum agenda 20000% to push a vote outside of HF or Rayn. There is confirmed mafia between two players. If you are town you need to be discussing hf and rayn right the fuck now i believe your claim i dont believe your check means one of rayn or hf is scum. this isnt rocket science, your check doesnt magically make me scumread either of them | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
You’ve gotta be kidding me. Are your egos all this huge? That yours reads are so good that the check just has to be wrong in some super unlikely way or another? Nobody has presented a compelling case for this in my opinion. And I dont believe for a second its in our interest to vote a 3rd candidate here. Ill eat my words if there is a framer or miller, but we deserve to lose if we can’t get it together, look at Rayn, look at HF, and figure out which one is scum. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On April 14 2018 11:17 Vivax wrote: In theory you could have checked a rayn GF against a framed HF. It isn't the scenario I'm working with but you get the idea. I think parity cop is quite weak when you don't prime your check with a townie who is confirmed through flip or outstanding townieness and generally speaking only starts being useful from the third check on. So while you believe your check to be really meaningful...It doesn't have to be to everyone else. Which is why I don't agree that voting off HF + rayn automatically makes everyone scummy just cause you checked them. I wish that was the case as I really want to lynch both of them, but the reality isn't that. Either way I have given up on this game cause rayn + HF just can say and do whatever they want without being considered for mafia by a vast majority of townies. I won't be lynched and this is possibly my last forum game ever. So you can put together these statements to figure out what that means. Rayn GF vs Framed HF means one is scum...still. Honestly I’m frustrated as hell at your defeatist attitude. WTF is wrong with you. Work with me here, we have scum between HF and Rayn, which is it? | ||
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Vivax
22410 Posts
On April 14 2018 13:16 ExO_ wrote: Rayn GF vs Framed HF means one is scum...still. Honestly I’m frustrated as hell at your defeatist attitude. WTF is wrong with you. Work with me here, we have scum between HF and Rayn, which is it? HF 80% of the times if you really want to argue it's only one of them. No idea why TS just craps on the possibility of HF being mafia. Probably likes it too much up his arse. CH is just trolling nothing else makes sense to me regarding what he said about me. Maybe he's trying to make a point about the way I was playing but I couldn't care less. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 14 2018 13:32 Vivax wrote: HF 80% of the times if you really want to argue it's only one of them. No idea why TS just craps on the possibility of HF being mafia. Probably likes it too much up his arse. CH is just trolling nothing else makes sense to me regarding what he said about me. Maybe he's trying to make a point about the way I was playing but I couldn't care less. Lol he’s not trolling. While I don’t necessarily agree it was a scum claim. It’s not good. But we can revisit you later. | ||
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Vivax
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Vivax
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On April 14 2018 14:00 Tubesock wrote: Lol he’s not trolling. While I don’t necessarily agree it was a scum claim. It’s not good. But we can revisit you later. What's your indication for the permanent intracorporeal colonoscopy? | ||
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Vivax
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On April 14 2018 14:08 Vivax wrote: Actually HF is getting lynched if nobody on his wagon derps so I'm being too panicky here. Oats + rayn are not going to vote him that much is obvious. CH has smoked I don't know what but if he isn't some sneaky as fuck scum who can roleplay 4 different TL players chances are he doesn't go full retard with a vote on me. In which case HF got to the majority first already. with a vote on me. With a vote on Calix* | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 14 2018 14:11 Vivax wrote: What's your indication for the permanent intracorporeal colonoscopy? If you’ve been reading you would have seen it. It’s probably within my last ten posts. | ||
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
On April 14 2018 13:04 ExO_ wrote: You guys have got to be fucking kidding me. We have a check on Rayn and HF. One is scum. Yet everyone seems to have the opinion “they cant be scum because there’s got to be a miller or framer” You’ve gotta be kidding me. Are your egos all this huge? That yours reads are so good that the check just has to be wrong in some super unlikely way or another? Nobody has presented a compelling case for this in my opinion. And I dont believe for a second its in our interest to vote a 3rd candidate here. Ill eat my words if there is a framer or miller, but we deserve to lose if we can’t get it together, look at Rayn, look at HF, and figure out which one is scum. what kind of compelling “case” do you expect if i think they are both town if i think they are both town one was framed or is a miller. end of story. yes the likelihood of that with nothing else happened in the game is lower but i dont need to make a case to say its more likely. just read the game, rayn has been trying hard especially recently to figure out the game with me and had very good posts. for example theres no way as scum that he would point out where credit is due when i found something on ever (unless he was scum trying to set me up to die? but i dont get this impression at all) hf is an asshole at times but a lot of the things he has said only make sense from town perspective. most of his townreads seem logical now even if it takes him a while to get there therefore both town, reads > unreliable blue checks i am more than 70% sure that they are both town and the check is nowhere near 70-80% certainty that one is scum because if there is a framer in this game literally the best targets are rayn and hf. if there is a framer in the game, like 90%+ certainty one of those 2 gets framed regardless of alignment. unless they are the framer themselves lol as for miller, let’s say there is one miller and what. 5 vts? 6 vts? 3 scum + miller + 3 blues = 7, 13 - 7 = 6 so miller & 6 VTs. 3 VTs already flipped so remaining non blues are 3 VTs and miller so if they are both town, chance that one of them is miller is 50% rofl | ||
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Vivax
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On April 14 2018 15:09 currentlyhomeless wrote: what kind of compelling “case” do you expect if i think they are both town if i think they are both town one was framed or is a miller. end of story. yes the likelihood of that with nothing else happened in the game is lower but i dont need to make a case to say its more likely. just read the game, rayn has been trying hard especially recently to figure out the game with me and had very good posts. for example theres no way as scum that he would point out where credit is due when i found something on ever (unless he was scum trying to set me up to die? but i dont get this impression at all) hf is an asshole at times but a lot of the things he has said only make sense from town perspective. most of his townreads seem logical now even if it takes him a while to get there therefore both town, reads > unreliable blue checks i am more than 70% sure that they are both town and the check is nowhere near 70-80% certainty that one is scum because if there is a framer in this game literally the best targets are rayn and hf. if there is a framer in the game, like 90%+ certainty one of those 2 gets framed regardless of alignment. unless they are the framer themselves lol as for miller, let’s say there is one miller and what. 5 vts? 6 vts? 3 scum + miller + 3 blues = 7, 13 - 7 = 6 so miller & 6 VTs. 3 VTs already flipped so remaining non blues are 3 VTs and miller so if they are both town, chance that one of them is miller is 50% rofl Nice bullshit read there though, I just saw what he wrote about me so I fully demand that you backtrack from this and until you do for good reason I'm un-townreading you without guarantee that I don't decide you are mafia here and don't give a shit about your reason. There is literally only one townread between "I got no townreads" to that read and it's me. So "most of his townreads seem logical" seems like the laziest explanation there is in the thread right now for anyone townreading him especially cause his only townread is your only scumread. Maybe this post will actually be your own death warrant. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Holyflare
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
if these are not townreads then idk wtf they are | ||
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Vivax
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currentlyhomeless
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On April 14 2018 07:33 Holyflare wrote: Why are you saying it like I haven't evaluated anything? I've spent the whole game evaluating these people. I thought exo was mafia, he was pushed as mafia and was most likely to be mafia. I'm insanely wary of his claim. I snap voted rayn and said vivax was town at the beginning of the day because i spent the last few minutes before deadline combing vivax's mafia games and he's right, 13 pages would be a record for him as mafia. Max he had was 8 day 3 in a 160 page game. When I concluded this and saw the nk I thought it was 100% rayn mafia because if vivax is town and I'm town shitting up the thread with vivax leaving me alive with him is optimal mafia play and fake voted rayn to see what would happen. Nobody reacted and exo claimed so kind of wasted my attempt but if rayn town reads me and I town read rayn and we both were wary of vivax and none of us three died then I'd always think it was rayn at this point. Thus I couldn't really decide between the two which I trusted more. I thought exo's claims had holes but it didn't so much after I looked into it and the more I thought about the setup the more balanced it seemed. After that I remembered tubesock quoting you with a definite blue soft to not get lynched (yes, keep repeating that it wasn't, we get it). If we lynched rayn and he turned out to actually be town (like I initially thought last cycle) then I kind of thought the game would be over in my mind (sleep deprivation) and was a bit of a risk. Since you softed blue and there were three blues already it's a far better shot at lynching you and letting the blue claim resolve itself. ah look town read rayn too vivax scum | ||
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