People are really underestimating them, at worst they're a SSJ3 Goku. How is that not an improvement over Tien/Krillin.
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Zooper31
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People are really underestimating them, at worst they're a SSJ3 Goku. How is that not an improvement over Tien/Krillin. | ||
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TMG26
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On March 22 2018 11:36 Shock710 wrote: Krillin and tien took out 1 person each,. In the anime. In the manga they were intantly defeated by frost. Frost is stronger than first time frieza because Piccolo was weaker than Frost in the U6 arc. Goten/Trunks anmoyance is mainly super anime bad writting (and manga kinda as well) I guess they decided to let let them age even tough 5 years passed for marketing reasons. | ||
Mohdoo
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Krillin and Tien doing anything remotely valuable was just fan service. The anime is way worse about this. The manga feels like a much more dignified version of the anime. | ||
LemOn
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On March 22 2018 23:21 Mohdoo wrote: With the amount of stupid shit the anime has tossed into the show that the manga just kinda ignored and instead presented something coherant and sensible, I think it is really easy to side with the manga on the topic of "how many people did krillin and Tien eliminate?" Krillin and Tien doing anything remotely valuable was just fan service. The anime is way worse about this. The manga feels like a much more dignified version of the anime. You have to give credit to Roshi's short arc, that was amazing both as fan service and a great piece of Anime right there, one of the most powerful couple episodes in Super really Roshi giving it his all. The manga will really struggle to top that. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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Although the one way I could see it is selling the underlying theme about U7 being made up of former enemies, and gotenks being the pinnacle of that, considering their genesis, but they weren't really enemies themselves. | ||
Mohdoo
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On March 23 2018 00:05 GreenHorizons wrote: I can imagine gotenks being more fun in the tournament a lot of ways. I think carelessly eliminating a teammate would be the best of those. But the idea of them being on the bench for all these episodes seems like they would be mostly useless as characters. Although the one way I could see it is selling the underlying theme about U7 being made up of former enemies, and gotenks being the pinnacle of that, considering their genesis, but they weren't really enemies themselves. Gotenks taunting Toppo and Jiren from the stands after elimination, spanking himself and all the other things he did against Buu, would be 9999999999999x better than Krillin constantly being like "0_0 Goku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" over and over. On March 22 2018 23:50 LemOn wrote: You have to give credit to Roshi's short arc, that was amazing both as fan service and a great piece of Anime right there, one of the most powerful couple episodes in Super really Roshi giving it his all. The manga will really struggle to top that. True. The roshi episodes were actually very good. | ||
GreenHorizons
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On March 23 2018 00:11 Mohdoo wrote: Gotenks taunting Toppo and Jiren from the stands after elimination, spanking himself and all the other things he did against Buu, would be 9999999999999x better than Krillin constantly being like "0_0 Goku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" over and over. True. The roshi episodes were actually very good. You've convinced me. Charge the writers with the appropriate crimes >.< Agreed on Roshi too. | ||
Dark_Chill
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LegalLord
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On March 23 2018 00:05 GreenHorizons wrote: I can imagine gotenks being more fun in the tournament a lot of ways. I think carelessly eliminating a teammate would be the best of those. There’s a great way he could do more harm that good. | ||
Mohdoo
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On March 23 2018 00:29 Dark_Chill wrote: I think a few chapters ago Vegeta and a few others were adamant about not letting the kids into the fight. Dad being dad I guess, and I probably wouldn't want my 5y old fighting against a bunch of other warriors (I'm not Goku though). I hated this because it violated saiyan philosophy. They send babies to conquer worlds. Vegeta beats the shit out of Trunks. To me, it was borderline dishonorable for Trunks and Goten to not be given the opportunity to fight and die for their universe. Saiyans don't fear death, they fear inaction. It would be proper for Trunks and Goten, even if they were weak, to be given the opportunity to fight. The fact that they are insannnnnnnnnnnnnely strong and would likely wipe out entire universes themselves only makes the situation even harder to swallow. | ||
BigFan
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Mohdoo
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On March 23 2018 02:02 BigFan wrote: Vegeta has changed from the past. Sure, he might cling to some of the old philosophy but I doubt that was one of them. mmmmmm...maybe. But the idea of not letting a saiyan get beat up is really fucking stupid. That is like chichi levels of stupid bullshit. I understand what you are saying, with stuff like "My bulma", but preventing Trunks from fighting for his own survival is many steps further than other glimpses of Vegeta's softer side. | ||
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