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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On June 04 2017 03:33 ritoky wrote: i guess i get how tonally it can feel the same from your PoV because HF is saying you're inconsistent and if you were consistent you should think X, but you randomly think Y which makes no sense. but HF does that always and to pretty much everyone. it's how sometimes he ends up lynching dumb instead of scum. i think you're kinda omgusing. Hmm it might just be the tone because I never was consistent on stuff and I remember how some people as scum did try to push me for the same type of stuff in the past. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
he defends TW for missing a joke "full frontal" (w/e the shit that means); when from my experience lacking a sense of humor is more mafia indicative than town. he defends grack from vivax because of last game? he doesn't disagree with vivax that what grack is doing isn't more scum indicative, he just says "don't call him mafia cuz he said terrible things last game too". read as mafia trying to pocket/protect weak town a bit. he prods the new player, which is easy for anyone to do. he calls out PB for sounding wishy-washy....but that makes no sense to me. he has a read on TW and grack from previous games, but not on PB. in the previous game PB was incredibly definitive and made tons of sense pretty much all game long. in this game PB sounds more unsure and makes less sense. it makes me think PB is more likely town, so why does PB sounding dissimilar to last game make him think PB is the same alignment as last game? dunno....pretty much don't like anything of what he has posted. | ||
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ritoky
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ritoky
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On June 04 2017 03:44 LightningStrike wrote: Hmm it might just be the tone because I never was consistent on stuff and I remember how some people as scum did try to push me for the same type of stuff in the past. Eh, it's worth noting that this isn't really how a meta read someone being scum works though. Certainly you can and should give some weighting to this as "hey, I've seen scum do this" but it's more important to ask whether HolyFlare does this as scum. Although some things can certainly be said to be universal scumtells, if we're going to talk about someone's history of using a point or argument when they are scum, we should bear in mind that such arguments should apply to them more than to others. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On June 04 2017 04:45 Blazinghand wrote: Eh, it's worth noting that this isn't really how a meta read someone being scum works though. Certainly you can and should give some weighting to this as "hey, I've seen scum do this" but it's more important to ask whether HolyFlare does this as scum. Although some things can certainly be said to be universal scumtells, if we're going to talk about someone's history of using a point or argument when they are scum, we should bear in mind that such arguments should apply to them more than to others. He can do ti as both alignments according to ritoky I just can't remember much about his town game since it been a while since HF been town period. | ||
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LightningStrike
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Holyflare
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On June 04 2017 04:50 LightningStrike wrote: I wonder where Vivax is because I figured he be around atm :\ Clearly my RNG was, as always, 100% correct here i'll prove it ##Vote Vivax | ||
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Tumblewood
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Tumblewood
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On June 04 2017 03:53 ritoky wrote: the person i think is most mafia right now is probably BTDT. i think his reads are cheap and hollow. he defends TW for missing a joke "full frontal" (w/e the shit that means); when from my experience lacking a sense of humor is more mafia indicative than town. he defends grack from vivax because of last game? he doesn't disagree with vivax that what grack is doing isn't more scum indicative, he just says "don't call him mafia cuz he said terrible things last game too". read as mafia trying to pocket/protect weak town a bit. he prods the new player, which is easy for anyone to do. he calls out PB for sounding wishy-washy....but that makes no sense to me. he has a read on TW and grack from previous games, but not on PB. in the previous game PB was incredibly definitive and made tons of sense pretty much all game long. in this game PB sounds more unsure and makes less sense. it makes me think PB is more likely town, so why does PB sounding dissimilar to last game make him think PB is the same alignment as last game? dunno....pretty much don't like anything of what he has posted. This is a good post. Except for the part about TW which I don't think is alignment indicative for either btdt or TW. | ||
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Grackaroni
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
At first with TW I thought he was also just trying hard to move the thread forward too. But thinking about it this morning, I kinda think that he was not at all interested in finding truth but a target. He doesn't know or asked to know my frame of mind or what's behind what I said. It was just "all sorts of bad". Everyone else is basically null. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
HF - his reads are thin and I think his LS read is wrong in particular. He has also kept pushing the TW read long after everyone else had sort of agreed and moved on. I think he probably is at a wedding tho, so his style makes sense in that context. I think it's a null-leaning slightly scummy read, but I definitely wouldn't lynch into him at the moment. Apart from the actual AFKers, the two people I'm most on at the moment are TW and Conversation, but for different reasons. We've all pinged out his weird read progression on TS earlier, but then when he finally comes back he comes in and gives two lazy-ass reads on me and ritoky (and yes, I know D1 association reads are garbage, but if one of those flips red later the other could be with them). And Conversation thread enters, leaves for almost a day, then comes back in and posts a huge WoT which basically just says nothing about the game at all. It basically flashes "I'm here and I don't care about the game", which is scumtell 101. In a way it's almost too flagrant, but I'm definitely not willing to give the benefit of the doubt at this stage. | ||
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Fidei86
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
People I'm liking: Ritoky Prison Break LightningStrike Conversion. (This one will seem weird. But I liked the tone of his post) People I'm disliking: Btdt Blazinghand (from experience with Blazinghand) The rest haven't interested me too much. And I think there's been way too much focus on what happened between Tubesock and Tumblewood when neither of their posts were too interesting to me. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On June 04 2017 06:35 Grackaroni wrote: I'm about to go to dinner but I can go into a bit of detail later tonight. People I'm liking: Ritoky Prison Break LightningStrike Conversion. (This one will seem weird. But I liked the tone of his post) People I'm disliking: Btdt Blazinghand (from experience with Blazinghand) The rest haven't interested me too much. And I think there's been way too much focus on what happened between Tubesock and Tumblewood when neither of their posts were too interesting to me. What don't you like about btdt? | ||
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Onegu
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