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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2017 17:42 GMT
#141
On June 04 2017 02:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 02:01 Holyflare wrote:
Also ls seemed to be missing the tw thing then copying so keep eye on that

Ugh I saw the arguement just didn't pay any special attention to a post until James posted that quote from TW.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2017 17:45 GMT
#142
Like you're saying that you didn't pay attention to it while simultaneously saying you paid attention to it and it's scummy.

While calling me mafia???
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 03 2017 17:45 GMT
#143
On June 04 2017 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
Like you're saying that you didn't pay attention to it while simultaneously saying you paid attention to it and it's scummy.

While calling me mafia???

I found it weird get it right at least -.-
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 03 2017 17:47 GMT
#144
HF I think that might be a bit of a reach. Going through the game again it's clear LS noticed TW-TS, but just completely whiffed on why it was actually interesting. It could be scum "saying what's happening", but then this is LS - he has a ... different style.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 03 2017 17:48 GMT
#145
(And if I haven't understood your point could you restate? Maybe after cake)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2017 18:04 GMT
#146
I saw he said it's interesting but he's implying it wasn't and now is
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 03 2017 18:06 GMT
#147
LS can you not just post 15-30 page filters and say "read this and you'll see my point!" who the fuck is actually going to do that? quote the posts or give me a page range at the very least.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 03 2017 18:11 GMT
#148
On June 04 2017 03:06 ritoky wrote:
LS can you not just post 15-30 page filters and say "read this and you'll see my point!" who the fuck is actually going to do that? quote the posts or give me a page range at the very least.

page 27 until end of page 29
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2017 18:12 GMT
#149
Basically i just think it's something ls would pick up on and didn't, nothing more
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 03 2017 18:13 GMT
#150
On June 04 2017 02:47 Fidei86 wrote:
HF I think that might be a bit of a reach. Going through the game again it's clear LS noticed TW-TS, but just completely whiffed on why it was actually interesting. It could be scum "saying what's happening", but then this is LS - he has a ... different style.

Only thing I saw that was interesting at the time was the scumread into townread switch until you quoted that weird post by TW.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 03 2017 18:16 GMT
#151
how the hell do you quote posts from this filter link?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 03 2017 18:17 GMT
#152
oh...apparently it logs me out? weird
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 03 2017 18:20 GMT
#153
On June 04 2017 03:17 ritoky wrote:
oh...apparently it logs me out? weird

It was from liquidlegends here the tl link:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/521332-generic-mini-mafia-ii?user=Holyflare
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 03 2017 18:22 GMT
#154
On May 20 2017 19:47 Holyflare wrote:
I think you probably lynch ls first tbh. The more I think about his play the worse it looks.

D1 calls me mafia, lynches his best friend damdred with me on the wagon.

N1 calls me mafia despite voting with him but agrees with me that rayn is mafia-y despite calling me mafia.

D2 makes a meta case that rayn is mafia because of rage but only has 1 meta link to XXX mafia and it looks nothing like this game. Then he just afks on that wagon despite there being other wagons and palmar voting rayn for modkill reasons. When asked who LS' scum reads other than rayn are he says he has none.

Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:05 LightningStrike wrote:
this vote count looks nasty we need to consolidate onto people.


And doesn't consolidate.

Despite the fact he thinks rayn is the only mafia and he agrees with my case on rayn and he's voting rayn he still thinks I'm mafia but NOT with rayn, the guy he is voting for.

Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:17 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
LS, who do you think are rayn's partners?

Idk honestly I just think he's mafia independent of anything.


I don't think I've ever seen anyone write this.

LS are you 100% sure that rayn is your only scumread?

Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh.



Furthermore, LS has been inconsistent on his reads. He says that palmar is mafia repeatedly but then says he'll lynch both palmar and holyflare despite earlier saying that if rayn is town palmar is mafia.

He goes on to say that tw did not spew grack town because the case was shit but begins today saying grack is confirmed town because of spew.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
I think HF or Palmar are scum based on TW's list honestly so I willing to lynch one or the other and the fact Grack was spewed makes so my 3rd scum is between sicklucker and prison break. sicklucker hasn't have the same euthiaism as normally does as town after lynching a scum and was afk for the most part of the auto lynch of TW like he normally does when one of his scum buddies is getting lynched. PB I did like his content early I just more afraid that he could of just been trying to blend but his way of trying to lynch sicklucker over HF and Palmar might seem townie?

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2017 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I think this was the closest he got to a town case on Grack but it wasn't exactly a great town case which is why I don't remember him doing one:
On May 14 2017 04:05 Tumblewood wrote:
dont lynch grack pls

of course first i have to establish that there isn't really such a thing as anti-incrimination. townreads will always be a more wishy-washy sort of read than scum reads which means no one is allowed to yell at you when you call someoine town , i think. the smarter thing to do was probably to make a refutation to the scum case but oh well, i am no weenie

so here are some examples of grack doing things that are townie things to do. like calling people out:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 13 2017 05:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 18:11 Palmar wrote:
random voteswitching at the deadline didn't work?

I'm shocked I say, shocked.

Dude you didn't even show up.

You were like "Oh no we have only a 5% chance of success. Allow me to proceed to do absolutely nothing!"

boom rekt
On May 10 2017 17:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me.
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

How about you play the game instead of this shit?
Did you just say you made a series of posts that indicate -- no, literally say, you found the first thing in the game that interests you yet you cannot make a single conclusion out of it?

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes sense. I am really not trying to twist anything you say into anything else. I just saw you making a post, thought about what it indicates (correctly ) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.

Obviously Tumblewood and you can question me for a read you don't understand or don't get. At first you just seemed to be doing it "wrong", you know what i mean? I don't think it makes you mafia, i just want you to be clear in what you say and not cryptic because i don't wanna guess what you say. I want people to lay out stuff clear so i can just focus on making conclusions on that said stuff.

rn I am most interested in on how Holyflare thinks anything of what i have said possibly makes me mafia.

Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion?

this post (and also the one where he responds to the damdred WoT) also indicate that he is closely reading and actually analyzing the game. which is ofc a Townie Thing To Do


and having fun. but not like shapelog trolling, actually being funny. also kinda had a real purpose behind it
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2017 15:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly are the quality posts you three made?

They looked kinda like this:

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Secund.


Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Who scum?


Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 07:52 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm glad that's settled <3
scum imitating trolling always end up being cryptic and useless, and not actually good like this. that was a much better explanation than the one outside the spoiler
On May 10 2017 18:48 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know who started this noted thing but it's super obnoxious.

On May 10 2017 18:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 18:50 Palmar wrote:
I think I'm going to vote you and see how it feels. Maybe it'll feel good, I don't know. So many things yet unanswered.

Noted.

admit it u are literally laughing ur ass off
but the way this is done conveys his genuine irritation with the noted thing too


part of the difficulty in writing this is i don't get how on earth he is scum anyway. it is just so obvious from his filter that this guy is town. but if you have a couple points against him i can tell you they're shit and we can make a little more progress towards Not Lynching An Obvious Townie On Day 2

his points aren't really great so the fact he went to try to defend grack could mean grack is a potental partner for TW but there might be other people who could be TW's partner.


LS has a problem of forgetting his own reads and then trying to blend by just copying other people's reads.

Lynch him after me.


this is his primary case against you and it doesn't feel similar at all. i guess he accusing you of being inconsistent again, that's the only real similarity i can see. am i missing something more?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 03 2017 18:23 GMT
#155
On June 04 2017 03:22 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 19:47 Holyflare wrote:
I think you probably lynch ls first tbh. The more I think about his play the worse it looks.

D1 calls me mafia, lynches his best friend damdred with me on the wagon.

N1 calls me mafia despite voting with him but agrees with me that rayn is mafia-y despite calling me mafia.

D2 makes a meta case that rayn is mafia because of rage but only has 1 meta link to XXX mafia and it looks nothing like this game. Then he just afks on that wagon despite there being other wagons and palmar voting rayn for modkill reasons. When asked who LS' scum reads other than rayn are he says he has none.

On May 15 2017 05:05 LightningStrike wrote:
this vote count looks nasty we need to consolidate onto people.


And doesn't consolidate.

Despite the fact he thinks rayn is the only mafia and he agrees with my case on rayn and he's voting rayn he still thinks I'm mafia but NOT with rayn, the guy he is voting for.

On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:17 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
LS, who do you think are rayn's partners?

Idk honestly I just think he's mafia independent of anything.


I don't think I've ever seen anyone write this.

LS are you 100% sure that rayn is your only scumread?

Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh.



Furthermore, LS has been inconsistent on his reads. He says that palmar is mafia repeatedly but then says he'll lynch both palmar and holyflare despite earlier saying that if rayn is town palmar is mafia.

He goes on to say that tw did not spew grack town because the case was shit but begins today saying grack is confirmed town because of spew.

On May 20 2017 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
I think HF or Palmar are scum based on TW's list honestly so I willing to lynch one or the other and the fact Grack was spewed makes so my 3rd scum is between sicklucker and prison break. sicklucker hasn't have the same euthiaism as normally does as town after lynching a scum and was afk for the most part of the auto lynch of TW like he normally does when one of his scum buddies is getting lynched. PB I did like his content early I just more afraid that he could of just been trying to blend but his way of trying to lynch sicklucker over HF and Palmar might seem townie?

On May 19 2017 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I think this was the closest he got to a town case on Grack but it wasn't exactly a great town case which is why I don't remember him doing one:
On May 14 2017 04:05 Tumblewood wrote:
dont lynch grack pls

of course first i have to establish that there isn't really such a thing as anti-incrimination. townreads will always be a more wishy-washy sort of read than scum reads which means no one is allowed to yell at you when you call someoine town , i think. the smarter thing to do was probably to make a refutation to the scum case but oh well, i am no weenie

so here are some examples of grack doing things that are townie things to do. like calling people out:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 13 2017 05:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 18:11 Palmar wrote:
random voteswitching at the deadline didn't work?

I'm shocked I say, shocked.

Dude you didn't even show up.

You were like "Oh no we have only a 5% chance of success. Allow me to proceed to do absolutely nothing!"

boom rekt
On May 10 2017 17:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me.
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

How about you play the game instead of this shit?
Did you just say you made a series of posts that indicate -- no, literally say, you found the first thing in the game that interests you yet you cannot make a single conclusion out of it?

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes sense. I am really not trying to twist anything you say into anything else. I just saw you making a post, thought about what it indicates (correctly ) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.

Obviously Tumblewood and you can question me for a read you don't understand or don't get. At first you just seemed to be doing it "wrong", you know what i mean? I don't think it makes you mafia, i just want you to be clear in what you say and not cryptic because i don't wanna guess what you say. I want people to lay out stuff clear so i can just focus on making conclusions on that said stuff.

rn I am most interested in on how Holyflare thinks anything of what i have said possibly makes me mafia.

Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion?

this post (and also the one where he responds to the damdred WoT) also indicate that he is closely reading and actually analyzing the game. which is ofc a Townie Thing To Do


and having fun. but not like shapelog trolling, actually being funny. also kinda had a real purpose behind it
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2017 15:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly are the quality posts you three made?

They looked kinda like this:

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Secund.


Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Who scum?


Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 07:52 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm glad that's settled <3
scum imitating trolling always end up being cryptic and useless, and not actually good like this. that was a much better explanation than the one outside the spoiler
On May 10 2017 18:48 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know who started this noted thing but it's super obnoxious.

On May 10 2017 18:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 18:50 Palmar wrote:
I think I'm going to vote you and see how it feels. Maybe it'll feel good, I don't know. So many things yet unanswered.

Noted.

admit it u are literally laughing ur ass off
but the way this is done conveys his genuine irritation with the noted thing too


part of the difficulty in writing this is i don't get how on earth he is scum anyway. it is just so obvious from his filter that this guy is town. but if you have a couple points against him i can tell you they're shit and we can make a little more progress towards Not Lynching An Obvious Townie On Day 2

his points aren't really great so the fact he went to try to defend grack could mean grack is a potental partner for TW but there might be other people who could be TW's partner.


LS has a problem of forgetting his own reads and then trying to blend by just copying other people's reads.

Lynch him after me.


this is his primary case against you and it doesn't feel similar at all. i guess he accusing you of being inconsistent again, that's the only real similarity i can see. am i missing something more?

Did you read his follow up on that case?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 03 2017 18:24 GMT
#156
Calling someone inconsistent when they're inconsistent is a mafia trait yo.

Ls I'm calling you out this game. If you're town I want you to play it without using a single meta link. I'm gonna make you evolve.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 03 2017 18:26 GMT
#157
On June 04 2017 03:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:22 ritoky wrote:
On May 20 2017 19:47 Holyflare wrote:
I think you probably lynch ls first tbh. The more I think about his play the worse it looks.

D1 calls me mafia, lynches his best friend damdred with me on the wagon.

N1 calls me mafia despite voting with him but agrees with me that rayn is mafia-y despite calling me mafia.

D2 makes a meta case that rayn is mafia because of rage but only has 1 meta link to XXX mafia and it looks nothing like this game. Then he just afks on that wagon despite there being other wagons and palmar voting rayn for modkill reasons. When asked who LS' scum reads other than rayn are he says he has none.

On May 15 2017 05:05 LightningStrike wrote:
this vote count looks nasty we need to consolidate onto people.


And doesn't consolidate.

Despite the fact he thinks rayn is the only mafia and he agrees with my case on rayn and he's voting rayn he still thinks I'm mafia but NOT with rayn, the guy he is voting for.

On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:17 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
LS, who do you think are rayn's partners?

Idk honestly I just think he's mafia independent of anything.


I don't think I've ever seen anyone write this.

LS are you 100% sure that rayn is your only scumread?

Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh.



Furthermore, LS has been inconsistent on his reads. He says that palmar is mafia repeatedly but then says he'll lynch both palmar and holyflare despite earlier saying that if rayn is town palmar is mafia.

He goes on to say that tw did not spew grack town because the case was shit but begins today saying grack is confirmed town because of spew.

On May 20 2017 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
I think HF or Palmar are scum based on TW's list honestly so I willing to lynch one or the other and the fact Grack was spewed makes so my 3rd scum is between sicklucker and prison break. sicklucker hasn't have the same euthiaism as normally does as town after lynching a scum and was afk for the most part of the auto lynch of TW like he normally does when one of his scum buddies is getting lynched. PB I did like his content early I just more afraid that he could of just been trying to blend but his way of trying to lynch sicklucker over HF and Palmar might seem townie?

On May 19 2017 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I think this was the closest he got to a town case on Grack but it wasn't exactly a great town case which is why I don't remember him doing one:
On May 14 2017 04:05 Tumblewood wrote:
dont lynch grack pls

of course first i have to establish that there isn't really such a thing as anti-incrimination. townreads will always be a more wishy-washy sort of read than scum reads which means no one is allowed to yell at you when you call someoine town , i think. the smarter thing to do was probably to make a refutation to the scum case but oh well, i am no weenie

so here are some examples of grack doing things that are townie things to do. like calling people out:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 13 2017 05:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 18:11 Palmar wrote:
random voteswitching at the deadline didn't work?

I'm shocked I say, shocked.

Dude you didn't even show up.

You were like "Oh no we have only a 5% chance of success. Allow me to proceed to do absolutely nothing!"

boom rekt
On May 10 2017 17:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me.
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

How about you play the game instead of this shit?
Did you just say you made a series of posts that indicate -- no, literally say, you found the first thing in the game that interests you yet you cannot make a single conclusion out of it?

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes sense. I am really not trying to twist anything you say into anything else. I just saw you making a post, thought about what it indicates (correctly ) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.

Obviously Tumblewood and you can question me for a read you don't understand or don't get. At first you just seemed to be doing it "wrong", you know what i mean? I don't think it makes you mafia, i just want you to be clear in what you say and not cryptic because i don't wanna guess what you say. I want people to lay out stuff clear so i can just focus on making conclusions on that said stuff.

rn I am most interested in on how Holyflare thinks anything of what i have said possibly makes me mafia.

Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion?

this post (and also the one where he responds to the damdred WoT) also indicate that he is closely reading and actually analyzing the game. which is ofc a Townie Thing To Do


and having fun. but not like shapelog trolling, actually being funny. also kinda had a real purpose behind it
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On May 10 2017 15:24 Grackaroni wrote:
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On May 10 2017 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly are the quality posts you three made?

They looked kinda like this:

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On May 10 2017 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Secund.


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On May 10 2017 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Who scum?


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On May 10 2017 07:52 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm glad that's settled <3
scum imitating trolling always end up being cryptic and useless, and not actually good like this. that was a much better explanation than the one outside the spoiler
On May 10 2017 18:48 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know who started this noted thing but it's super obnoxious.

On May 10 2017 18:51 Grackaroni wrote:
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On May 10 2017 18:50 Palmar wrote:
I think I'm going to vote you and see how it feels. Maybe it'll feel good, I don't know. So many things yet unanswered.

Noted.

admit it u are literally laughing ur ass off
but the way this is done conveys his genuine irritation with the noted thing too


part of the difficulty in writing this is i don't get how on earth he is scum anyway. it is just so obvious from his filter that this guy is town. but if you have a couple points against him i can tell you they're shit and we can make a little more progress towards Not Lynching An Obvious Townie On Day 2

his points aren't really great so the fact he went to try to defend grack could mean grack is a potental partner for TW but there might be other people who could be TW's partner.


LS has a problem of forgetting his own reads and then trying to blend by just copying other people's reads.

Lynch him after me.


this is his primary case against you and it doesn't feel similar at all. i guess he accusing you of being inconsistent again, that's the only real similarity i can see. am i missing something more?

Did you read his follow up on that case?


you mean posts like this?

On May 20 2017 23:54 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 20 2017 23:09 LightningStrike wrote:
You can lynch me if you want but I thinking HF's refusal to lynch Palmar despite the fact we gave him the opportunity to do it and him sort of defending palmar is enough of as reason to lynch HF and if HF is scum we can move on to to sicklucker.


How the hell can you think only one of us is mafia but the guy trying to solve the game is the one instead of the guy pandering to emotions? None of that makes the slightest bit of sense.

If there's only one mafia between us then why do I spend my time trying to defend him when I just let him die and get confirmed town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 03 2017 18:32 GMT
#158
On June 04 2017 03:26 ritoky wrote:
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On June 04 2017 03:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 04 2017 03:22 ritoky wrote:
On May 20 2017 19:47 Holyflare wrote:
I think you probably lynch ls first tbh. The more I think about his play the worse it looks.

D1 calls me mafia, lynches his best friend damdred with me on the wagon.

N1 calls me mafia despite voting with him but agrees with me that rayn is mafia-y despite calling me mafia.

D2 makes a meta case that rayn is mafia because of rage but only has 1 meta link to XXX mafia and it looks nothing like this game. Then he just afks on that wagon despite there being other wagons and palmar voting rayn for modkill reasons. When asked who LS' scum reads other than rayn are he says he has none.

On May 15 2017 05:05 LightningStrike wrote:
this vote count looks nasty we need to consolidate onto people.


And doesn't consolidate.

Despite the fact he thinks rayn is the only mafia and he agrees with my case on rayn and he's voting rayn he still thinks I'm mafia but NOT with rayn, the guy he is voting for.

On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 05:17 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
LS, who do you think are rayn's partners?

Idk honestly I just think he's mafia independent of anything.


I don't think I've ever seen anyone write this.

LS are you 100% sure that rayn is your only scumread?

Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh.



Furthermore, LS has been inconsistent on his reads. He says that palmar is mafia repeatedly but then says he'll lynch both palmar and holyflare despite earlier saying that if rayn is town palmar is mafia.

He goes on to say that tw did not spew grack town because the case was shit but begins today saying grack is confirmed town because of spew.

On May 20 2017 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
I think HF or Palmar are scum based on TW's list honestly so I willing to lynch one or the other and the fact Grack was spewed makes so my 3rd scum is between sicklucker and prison break. sicklucker hasn't have the same euthiaism as normally does as town after lynching a scum and was afk for the most part of the auto lynch of TW like he normally does when one of his scum buddies is getting lynched. PB I did like his content early I just more afraid that he could of just been trying to blend but his way of trying to lynch sicklucker over HF and Palmar might seem townie?

On May 19 2017 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I think this was the closest he got to a town case on Grack but it wasn't exactly a great town case which is why I don't remember him doing one:
On May 14 2017 04:05 Tumblewood wrote:
dont lynch grack pls

of course first i have to establish that there isn't really such a thing as anti-incrimination. townreads will always be a more wishy-washy sort of read than scum reads which means no one is allowed to yell at you when you call someoine town , i think. the smarter thing to do was probably to make a refutation to the scum case but oh well, i am no weenie

so here are some examples of grack doing things that are townie things to do. like calling people out:
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On May 13 2017 05:42 Grackaroni wrote:
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On May 12 2017 18:11 Palmar wrote:
random voteswitching at the deadline didn't work?

I'm shocked I say, shocked.

Dude you didn't even show up.

You were like "Oh no we have only a 5% chance of success. Allow me to proceed to do absolutely nothing!"

boom rekt
On May 10 2017 17:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me.
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On May 10 2017 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

How about you play the game instead of this shit?
Did you just say you made a series of posts that indicate -- no, literally say, you found the first thing in the game that interests you yet you cannot make a single conclusion out of it?

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On May 10 2017 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes sense. I am really not trying to twist anything you say into anything else. I just saw you making a post, thought about what it indicates (correctly ) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.

Obviously Tumblewood and you can question me for a read you don't understand or don't get. At first you just seemed to be doing it "wrong", you know what i mean? I don't think it makes you mafia, i just want you to be clear in what you say and not cryptic because i don't wanna guess what you say. I want people to lay out stuff clear so i can just focus on making conclusions on that said stuff.

rn I am most interested in on how Holyflare thinks anything of what i have said possibly makes me mafia.

Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion?

this post (and also the one where he responds to the damdred WoT) also indicate that he is closely reading and actually analyzing the game. which is ofc a Townie Thing To Do


and having fun. but not like shapelog trolling, actually being funny. also kinda had a real purpose behind it
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 10 2017 15:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly are the quality posts you three made?

They looked kinda like this:

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Secund.


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On May 10 2017 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Who scum?


Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 07:52 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm glad that's settled <3
scum imitating trolling always end up being cryptic and useless, and not actually good like this. that was a much better explanation than the one outside the spoiler
On May 10 2017 18:48 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know who started this noted thing but it's super obnoxious.

On May 10 2017 18:51 Grackaroni wrote:
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On May 10 2017 18:50 Palmar wrote:
I think I'm going to vote you and see how it feels. Maybe it'll feel good, I don't know. So many things yet unanswered.

Noted.

admit it u are literally laughing ur ass off
but the way this is done conveys his genuine irritation with the noted thing too


part of the difficulty in writing this is i don't get how on earth he is scum anyway. it is just so obvious from his filter that this guy is town. but if you have a couple points against him i can tell you they're shit and we can make a little more progress towards Not Lynching An Obvious Townie On Day 2

his points aren't really great so the fact he went to try to defend grack could mean grack is a potental partner for TW but there might be other people who could be TW's partner.


LS has a problem of forgetting his own reads and then trying to blend by just copying other people's reads.

Lynch him after me.


this is his primary case against you and it doesn't feel similar at all. i guess he accusing you of being inconsistent again, that's the only real similarity i can see. am i missing something more?

Did you read his follow up on that case?


you mean posts like this?

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On May 20 2017 23:54 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2017 23:09 LightningStrike wrote:
You can lynch me if you want but I thinking HF's refusal to lynch Palmar despite the fact we gave him the opportunity to do it and him sort of defending palmar is enough of as reason to lynch HF and if HF is scum we can move on to to sicklucker.


How the hell can you think only one of us is mafia but the guy trying to solve the game is the one instead of the guy pandering to emotions? None of that makes the slightest bit of sense.

If there's only one mafia between us then why do I spend my time trying to defend him when I just let him die and get confirmed town?

Yes.
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 03 2017 18:32 GMT
#159
On June 03 2017 21:31 Conversion wrote:
Hi all!

I'm here-- generally a hectic weekend personally so apologies that I was late!

That's all fine and dandy but if you've been here for about an hour, why aren't you posting? [/QUOTE]

I'm actually working today and was going to catch up later in the day, hence I said that generally it's a hectic weekend.

Also, I understand that your timezone doesn't match up with the start of the game, but what are you going to get by pushing me, who is not experienced at all at Mafia, and making me post more? What about the other half of the thread that isn't making any sort of post that you can push for more information as well?

It feels counterproductive to me (although I can see the flip side of the argument of letting me lurk lets me fly under the radar if I am scum by playing the newbie card, but I would assume veteran players can pressure me into slipping later on in the game if I were)

For me it seems like unnecessary posting just clutters up a lot of the points or distractions, being made here, and I'd rather spend a good chunk of the small amount of time I do have in my current situations understanding how Mafia games generally go and understanding when to push for points or make good posts.

TL;DR real life things outside of my control has coincided with the start time of this game-- does not mean I am trying to be inactive to fly under the radar and lurk.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 03 2017 18:33 GMT
#160
i guess i get how tonally it can feel the same from your PoV because HF is saying you're inconsistent and if you were consistent you should think X, but you randomly think Y which makes no sense.

but HF does that always and to pretty much everyone. it's how sometimes he ends up lynching dumb instead of scum. i think you're kinda omgusing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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