Shooting in Munich Shopping Center - Page 25

On July 24 2016 00:07 fabiano wrote:
What a time we are living in, huh?

I, a brazilian, used to witness tv news every single day, 24/7, talking about local murdering, robbery, assaults, rape and all that there is bad in society, am actually afraid to fly to Europe and USA...

The things that are happening over there are so fucking random that it actually looks more scary than the dangers we endure in Brazil.

These lone wolfs appear out of the blue, the common citizen cannot predict anything, cannot know if he is under danger or not, and it really feels scary...

On July 23 2016 23:54 m4ini wrote:


Yeah, i know.. Because, again, this is totally the place where islam, multiculturalism etc have to be discussed. In the wake of a school shooting/student shooter, whatever you wanna call it.

On July 24 2016 00:50 Cowboy24 wrote:

Muslims radicals will continue murdering people, en masse, in Europe and this right here is why.

On July 24 2016 00:50 Cowboy24 wrote:

Muslims radicals will continue murdering people, en masse, in Europe and this right here is why.

On July 24 2016 00:50 Cowboy24 wrote:

Muslims radicals will continue murdering people, en masse, in Europe and this right here is why.

On July 24 2016 00:56 Dan HH wrote:

Muslim radicals will murder people in Europe because we didn't pretend that a non religiously motivated attack was an Islamist attack? How did /pol/ convince you of this one? It's one the most nonsensical arguments I've read all year

On July 24 2016 01:02 NukeD wrote:

You didn't get it. Move on.

On July 24 2016 01:06 Dan HH wrote:

There's nothing to get. The reason these 'arguments' you guys copy paste from places like /r/the_donald are nonsensical to the rest of the world is not because you are misunderstood geniuses, but because they crumble from the mildest waft of scrutiny.

On July 24 2016 00:56 Dan HH wrote:

Muslim radicals will murder people in Europe because we didn't pretend that a non religiously motivated attack was an Islamist attack? How did /pol/ convince you of this one? It's one the most nonsensical arguments I've read all year

On July 24 2016 01:53 Jockmcplop wrote:
Could it be that people notice when the media does something they don't like, but fail to notice when it does something that supports their views?

On July 24 2016 01:42 fabiano wrote:


Exactly!

People actually "expect" something bad when coming to Brazil, because it is very known the place is dangerous overall. When you walk around here, it is very clear which places are likely to have something bad to happen, and which ones it is more unlikely of such. All in all, you are more aware of possible problems.

However, in rich european countries such as Germany or France, I believe you usually have a feeling of being really safe in most of the places, so you turn your guard off.

Not sure if I can make myself be understood, but for me, I had this picture in my mind of Germany being a heavenly, peaceful and safe place for a vacation, a place where I could walk around the streets, be in a crowd, day or night, and stay relatively safe.

With this immigration crisis, the recurrent terrorist attacks and their consequences, that picture I had is fading away. Europe is becoming a place where out of nowhere something really bad might happen at any time, anywhere, with anyone... totally unpredictable. :/

But you guys are right, I should not be afraid, it's just that I find it quite shocking... I don't know, I just posted it in an emotional moment lol

On July 24 2016 01:46 Cowboy24 wrote:
Basically, if there is any possible connection to anything other than radical Islam, the discussion of Islamic terrorism and migration and multiculturalism (even if clearly relevant, to some degree, to this particular case) are instantly considered taboo and no longer relevant and all discussion is shut down with "How dare you bring those topics up in this time of horrific tragedy!" and anyone bringing them up is treated as an insensitive moron.

It's all very tiresome. But if that's the way people want it, that's the way they'll get it. So I'll say no further on it.

On July 24 2016 01:46 Cowboy24 wrote:

I wasn't clear.

If the killer shoots up a night-club, it's because he's a self-hating homosexual. If they shoot a work party, it's because his Jewish coworker was an Islamaphobe. If they shoot up a magazine, it's because the magazine incited them. If the kid said he's bullied it is definitely that. There will be no further investigation or discussion as to possible motives because we instantly know. This time we know. Before, when everyone thought he was a Muslim it was "going to take years to unravel his motivations and we may never fully understand."

Basically, if there is any possible connection to anything other than radical Islam, the discussion of Islamic terrorism and migration and multiculturalism (even if clearly relevant, to some degree, to this particular case) are instantly considered taboo and no longer relevant and all discussion is shut down with "How dare you bring those topics up in this time of horrific tragedy!" and anyone bringing them up is treated as an insensitive moron.

It's all very tiresome. But if that's the way people want it, that's the way they'll get it. So I'll say no further on it.

On July 24 2016 05:22 Toadesstern wrote:


I'll just leave this here:

• The 18-year-old gunman who killed nine people in Munich was obsessed with mass shootings but had no known links to the Islamic State group, German police say.
  
• Written material on such attacks was found in his room. Munich's police chief spoke of links to the massacre by Norway's Anders Behring Breivik.
  
• Seven of the dead were teenagers. Three victims were from Kosovo, three from Turkey and one from Greece. [note on my part: We know from the video that he was screaming something along the lines of "fucking foreigners" in german]
  
• Police say the Munich-born gunman had been in psychiatric care, receiving treatment for depression.
  
• Munich police chief Hubertus Andrae said there was an "obvious" link between the new attack and Friday's fifth anniversary of Breivik's attacks in Norway, when he murdered 77 people.

now I know people, especially from the EU, are shitting on the US for all the mass shootings they have and whatnot. But this isn't exactly the first time a non-terrorist shooting happened in Germany. It's been some time but we had those distraught boy steals gun from dad and goes on a killingspree in his school for being bullied events as well in the past. It's just overshadowed by all the islamic terror attacks the last couple years.
It's not exactly the same but in my opinion it's closer to that than a terrorist attack