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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1961 Posts
July 25 2016 15:24 GMT
#601
The bomber of Ansbach had pledged allegiance to ISIS, the shooter of Munich did not, according to the police. He was motivated by former shootings in schools and Breivik and apparantly wanted to kill foreigners. The guy in Reutlingen is tricky but the police is currently thinking the motive is the relationship with the female coworker that died. They are all completely different, i am very curious which topic stays in the media. The threat of islamic terror, the threat of computer games or the threat of mass shootings by unstable persons. In the end, as Newt Gingrich stated in the US, it's not the facts that matter but the feelings you have about them and i am sure a lot of fear is going to get stirred. So far the media i have seen has been pretty objective though.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 25 2016 15:28 GMT
#602
The man in Reutlingen attacked her with a machete of all things, and attacked other people as well. Considering he was stopped by another car I don't think it was a relationship. My theory is that he admired her and was sad that she rebuffed his advances. He then let his wounded pride take him too far.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
July 25 2016 15:35 GMT
#603
yep, looks like the bomber wanted to kill as many people as he could
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 15:38:59
July 25 2016 15:38 GMT
#604
On July 26 2016 00:02 D_lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
A witness who was in the McDonald's restaurant said her son was in the bathroom with the gunman.
"That's where he loaded his weapon," said Lauretta, who only wanted to be identified by her first name.
She said she saw many young casualties.
"I hear like an alarm and boom, boom, boom ... and he's still killing the children. The children were sitting to eat. They can't run."
Lauretta said she heard the gunman say, "Allahu Akbar," or "God is great" in Arabic.
"I know this because I'm Muslim. I hear this and I only cry," she said.

Witness Huseyin Bayri said he was riding his bike outside the restaurant when he saw the attacker yelling.
"I heard a scream at first: 'You shitty ... foreigners. I am German. You will get it,'" Bayri said.


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/23/europe/germany-munich-shooting/

Why post this? It's 2 days old and turned out false.

Everyone: If you want to discuss other events from this week: Make a thread. This here is about the Munich shooting.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 16:21:07
July 25 2016 16:13 GMT
#605
On July 26 2016 00:38 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 00:02 D_lux wrote:
A witness who was in the McDonald's restaurant said her son was in the bathroom with the gunman.
"That's where he loaded his weapon," said Lauretta, who only wanted to be identified by her first name.
She said she saw many young casualties.
"I hear like an alarm and boom, boom, boom ... and he's still killing the children. The children were sitting to eat. They can't run."
Lauretta said she heard the gunman say, "Allahu Akbar," or "God is great" in Arabic.
"I know this because I'm Muslim. I hear this and I only cry," she said.

Witness Huseyin Bayri said he was riding his bike outside the restaurant when he saw the attacker yelling.
"I heard a scream at first: 'You shitty ... foreigners. I am German. You will get it,'" Bayri said.


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/23/europe/germany-munich-shooting/

Why post this? It's 2 days old and turned out false.

Everyone: If you want to discuss other events from this week: Make a thread. This here is about the Munich shooting.


Well technically we should have a thread similar to the gun thread at this rate.
If you're seeing this topic then another attack in Europe has happened and people disagree on what to do.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 16:24:26
July 25 2016 16:22 GMT
#606
On July 26 2016 00:28 SK.Testie wrote:
The man in Reutlingen attacked her with a machete of all things, and attacked other people as well. Considering he was stopped by another car I don't think it was a relationship. My theory is that he admired her and was sad that she rebuffed his advances. He then let his wounded pride take him too far.


Wasn't a machete, but a "Dönermesser". Kebabknife, i guess.

edit

Why post this? It's 2 days old and turned out false.


What did? Looking at this, it seems to be accurate, although i just skimmed it.
On track to MA1950A.
D_lux
Profile Joined March 2009
Hungary65 Posts
July 25 2016 17:31 GMT
#607
On July 26 2016 01:13 SK.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 00:38 zatic wrote:
On July 26 2016 00:02 D_lux wrote:
A witness who was in the McDonald's restaurant said her son was in the bathroom with the gunman.
"That's where he loaded his weapon," said Lauretta, who only wanted to be identified by her first name.
She said she saw many young casualties.
"I hear like an alarm and boom, boom, boom ... and he's still killing the children. The children were sitting to eat. They can't run."
Lauretta said she heard the gunman say, "Allahu Akbar," or "God is great" in Arabic.
"I know this because I'm Muslim. I hear this and I only cry," she said.

Witness Huseyin Bayri said he was riding his bike outside the restaurant when he saw the attacker yelling.
"I heard a scream at first: 'You shitty ... foreigners. I am German. You will get it,'" Bayri said.


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/23/europe/germany-munich-shooting/

Why post this? It's 2 days old and turned out false.

Everyone: If you want to discuss other events from this week: Make a thread. This here is about the Munich shooting.


Well technically we should have a thread similar to the gun thread at this rate.
Show nested quote +
If you're seeing this topic then another attack in Europe has happened and people disagree on what to do.



Okay, sorry, I didn't know it was proved false and I didn't know what to think about it. I assume the allahu part was proved false.
there is no spoon
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
July 25 2016 23:38 GMT
#608
I dont want to derail this thread that hard, but after 10 pages have been about how these attacks are connected to multi-culturalism and how monocultured states are much saver from them...

A attacker in Japan killed atleast 15 people and injured 45 more in a home for disabled people with a knife.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-26 01:08:02
July 26 2016 01:01 GMT
#609
On July 26 2016 08:38 Clonester wrote:
I dont want to derail this thread that hard, but after 10 pages have been about how these attacks are connected to multi-culturalism and how monocultured states are much saver from them...

A attacker in Japan killed atleast 15 people and injured 45 more in a home for disabled people with a knife.


Yes. But it's a lot rarer in Japan isn't it. A lot rarer.

This was one rando attacker that Japan might have every few years. You had 4 people pop-off and go haywire this week. Never forget, they actually downplayed the sexual assaults in Cologne. (This happened all over your country btw).

The sweetest part about it is that liberals think the best way to deal with it is to hide the information from the public, downplay the events, and never let them know how bad it is. Because kicking the can down the road is a great idea. w/e, you guys will handle it fine I'm sure. Just enjoy your 100% chance of increased crime rates and lowered social cohesion.

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All of the incidents involved women being surrounded and assaulted by groups of men on the street.[23][24] There are more than 1,900 victims – 1,200 of whom were sexually assaulted – and police stated that at least 2,000 men were involved, acting in groups.[25] Police reported that the perpetrators were men of "Arab or North African appearance" and said that Germany had never experienced such mass sexual assaults before.[24][26][27][28][29] The attacks sparked an international outcry, a debate about women's rights, the sustainability of Germany's asylum policy, and social differences between European societies and those of North Africa and the Middle East. Taking place during the European migrant crisis (see timeline), the attacks also led to a hardening of attitudes against mass immigration.[30]


In Düsseldorf, nine persons were named as suspects, eight of whom are migrants.[85] According to a media report, an 18-year-old woman from Mönchengladbach recognized a perpetrator in a report of Spiegel TV and decided to make a complaint to the police afterwards. The 33-year-old man, who is suspected to have sexually offended the woman in Düsseldorf out of a group, was arrested by investigators.[33] In Dortmund, nine further people were put under suspicion, seven of them migrants.[85] In Bielefeld, four migrants from Morocco and Algeria were identified as suspects.[85] By 20 January, the North Rhine-Westphalia Police, responsible for Bielefeld, Cologne, Dortmund, and Düsseldorf, reported that 52 people were being treated as suspects; a majority of them were of non-German origin.[18]

Eight people were named as suspects in Hamburg, all of them migrants and some of them refugees.[16] On 20 January, Hamburg police published photos of two wanted persons who are suspected to have sexually assaulted an 18-year-old girl in the early morning hours of 1 January on the street of Große Freiheit,[77] which led to the arrest of a 29-year-old male migrant from Afghanistan on 21 January. He was recognised by a security guard of a refugee reception center in Hamburg. A second suspected migrant was freed shortly after his arrest due to a lack of adequate suspicion.[78] On 26 January, Hamburg police published another photo of a wanted person, who is suspected to have sexually assaulted two 20-year-old women on New Year's Eve while acting as part of a group.[119] On 5 February, a 33-year-old man from Iran was reported to have been arrested in a refugee reception center in Hamburg and taken into investigative custody under suspicion of assaulting the two women in Hamburg.[120][121] On 4 February, Hamburg police released photos of two further suspects. The nationwide TV series Aktenzeichen XY … ungelöst was used for the manhunt for the Hamburg perpetrators.[3]

In Stuttgart, a 20-year-old asylum seeker from Iraq was detained for sexually assaulting two girls while acting out of a group.[84] In Frankfurt, the police is investigating ten men in the ages of 15 to 27, all asylum seekers or refugees, who were temporarily arrested for pickpocketing on New Year's Eve near the bridge of Eiserner Steg. They are trying to determine if these men were involved in the sexual assaults. One of the suspects is in investigative custody.[83]

Reinhard Merkel, a law professor from Hamburg, said that convicting the suspects, especially for sexual offences, will be difficult because an unequivocal identification by the victims is needed, which is often not the case. Furthermore, policemen stated that the video footage of the cameras within and outside the Cologne main station is partly unusable.[122]
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-09 09:54:31
July 26 2016 04:25 GMT
#610
Temporarily closing this as the past few pages had nothing to do with the Munich shootings.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
August 17 2016 09:25 GMT
#611
So the police released a report today about what exactly happened:

After the shooting in the mall, the attacker went into the parking garage of the mall, where he fired 17 rounds into a parked car. He then proceeded to the parking deck, where the shouting match with the guy from the window cell phone video occured.
Police on the ground level spotted him on the parking deck and shot at him, but missed.

He then fled the parking deck and went through a small park and into a residential building. At this point he had put away his gun and actually met and talked to several people he randomly met on the staircase in the residential building. The people had no idea who he was and one person actually offered him help. Police: There could have been more victims, but apparently he was done killing people.

He then hid for about 2 hours in the basement of the building while the search was going on. After that he emerged from the basement, and immediately encountered police. That's when he shot himself.


Also, the police arrested a couple suspected of illegally selling the hand gun to the attacker. Police posed as potential buyers on dark net and arrested the man and woman at the exchange. The man apparently said during the buying process that he had been the one who sold the Munich attacker his gun.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 10:05:42
August 17 2016 10:05 GMT
#612
The guy who thrown his beer and insulted him might actually have made him reconsider his action, leading him to wandering around and eventually killing himself ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
August 17 2016 10:46 GMT
#613
Probably impossible to say. Who knows what goes on in the head of a guy that insane. I like to think that the random dude throwing beer at him and insulting him really did prevent further killings. Would make a great story.

However, the suicide was definitely part of the plan, seeing how obsessed he was with previous (school) shootings and the usual school shooting play book.
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