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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 25 2016 02:10 GMT
#561
On July 25 2016 11:06 Nebuchad wrote:
Political correctness has never been a problem ever.


Don't make me do this to you. I'm just an autistic gamer with a looooooooooot of content.
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Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 02:21:06
July 25 2016 02:19 GMT
#562
On July 25 2016 11:10 SK.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 11:06 Nebuchad wrote:
Political correctness has never been a problem ever.


Don't make me do this to you. I'm just an autistic gamer with a looooooooooot of content.


"Racism is bad" is a politically correct sentence. It's also morally correct, logically correct, it's all of the corrects that you want.
"Racism is bad, so we won't investigate crimes by non-white people" is a politically correct sentence. It isn't, however, logically correct, because there's no connexion between being racist and investigating a crime committed by a non-white person.

Your problem is with being logically incorrect, not with being politically correct.
No will to live, no wish to die
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
July 25 2016 02:56 GMT
#563
On July 25 2016 08:55 Shield wrote:
I think we've got a bigger problem than terrorism. It's politically correct left wingers who say it's "racist" or "islamophobic" not to want muslims in Europe. Guess what. Islam isn't compatible with foundations of democracy, women's rights, etc, so stop pretending the world is perfect and we can all live happily together. This isn't a fairytale. There are people who die for no reason just because some mad muslim decided so. Some of you will say Breivik? Yeah, what's the ratio of Breivik and fans to that of muslim terrorists?


The funny thing I know is that if any white person would treat women they way Islam does they'd get total shit of leftists.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 25 2016 02:58 GMT
#564
On July 25 2016 11:56 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 08:55 Shield wrote:
I think we've got a bigger problem than terrorism. It's politically correct left wingers who say it's "racist" or "islamophobic" not to want muslims in Europe. Guess what. Islam isn't compatible with foundations of democracy, women's rights, etc, so stop pretending the world is perfect and we can all live happily together. This isn't a fairytale. There are people who die for no reason just because some mad muslim decided so. Some of you will say Breivik? Yeah, what's the ratio of Breivik and fans to that of muslim terrorists?


The funny thing I know is that if any white person would treat women they way Islam does they'd get total shit of leftists.

Not really. There are thousands of rich, white dudes out there that treat women like garbage and get away with it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 03:17:30
July 25 2016 03:11 GMT
#565
Since nobody is addressing the elephant in the room: the suicide bomber was in fact a syrian refugee, who came to germany two years ago, and his asylum request was denied one year ago. He actually tried to simply stop the festival for whatever reason, but they didn't let him (obviously) do that. So he decided to bomb it.

Fun fact, the german news outlet N24 actually writes:

"Unklar ist laut Herrmann, ob der Mann in suizidaler Absicht handelte oder andere Menschen mit in den Tod reißen wollte."

"Unclear is according to Herrmann (minister), if the dude acted suicidal or wanted to take other people with him."

Like.. What? He bombed himself amidst civilians, pure luck and gods thumb prevented more deaths. How can newspapers and ministers spout something so inherently retarded? How's that even a question?

And the worst part: the AfD will call them out on that. And i can't even blame them, if politicians immediately after an attack already start downplaying shit (like, of course he didn't want to take other people with him, that's why he bombed himself next to a big group of partying people)?

So far: refugee who lied about his origin went on rampage with an axe, another refugee went on rampage with a machete who got stopped by civilian who prevented worse, and now a third one who was rejected 12 months ago, ie shouldn't even be in germany, blowing himself up.

Come on.

edit: opposite to what was said before by the police, there are critically injured.
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 25 2016 03:14 GMT
#566
On July 25 2016 11:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 11:56 sharkie wrote:
On July 25 2016 08:55 Shield wrote:
I think we've got a bigger problem than terrorism. It's politically correct left wingers who say it's "racist" or "islamophobic" not to want muslims in Europe. Guess what. Islam isn't compatible with foundations of democracy, women's rights, etc, so stop pretending the world is perfect and we can all live happily together. This isn't a fairytale. There are people who die for no reason just because some mad muslim decided so. Some of you will say Breivik? Yeah, what's the ratio of Breivik and fans to that of muslim terrorists?


The funny thing I know is that if any white person would treat women they way Islam does they'd get total shit of leftists.

Not really. There are thousands of rich, white dudes out there that treat women like garbage and get away with it.


That's a really stupid thing to say in response and literally has no value.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 25 2016 03:16 GMT
#567
On July 25 2016 12:11 m4ini wrote:
Since nobody is addressing the elephant in the room: the suicide bomber was in fact a syrian refugee, who came to germany two years ago, and his asylum request was denied one year ago. He actually tried to simply stop the festival for whatever reason, but they didn't let him (obviously) do that. So he decided to bomb it.

Fun fact, the german news outlet N24 actually writes:

"Unklar ist laut Herrmann, ob der Mann in suizidaler Absicht handelte oder andere Menschen mit in den Tod reißen wollte."

"Unclear is according to Herrmann (minister), if the dude acted suicidal or wanted to take other people with him."

Like.. What? He bombed himself amidst civilians, pure luck and gods thumb prevented more deaths. How can newspapers and ministers spout something so inherently retarded? How's that even a question?

And the worst part: the AfD will call them out on that. And i can't even blame them, if politicians immediately after an attack already start downplaying shit (like, of course he didn't want to take other people with him, that's why he bombed himself next to big group of partying people)?

So far: refugee who lied about his origin went on rampage with an axe, another refugee went on rampage with a machete who got stopped by civilian who prevented worse, and now a third one who was rejected 12 months ago, ie shouldn't even be in germany, blowing himself up.

Come on.

edit: opposite to what was said before by the police, there are critically injured.


T... the suicide bomber didn't want to hurt anyone guys! I.. I swear!
God, what a bunch of morons.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 03:18:34
July 25 2016 03:17 GMT
#568
On July 25 2016 12:14 SK.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 11:58 Plansix wrote:
On July 25 2016 11:56 sharkie wrote:
On July 25 2016 08:55 Shield wrote:
I think we've got a bigger problem than terrorism. It's politically correct left wingers who say it's "racist" or "islamophobic" not to want muslims in Europe. Guess what. Islam isn't compatible with foundations of democracy, women's rights, etc, so stop pretending the world is perfect and we can all live happily together. This isn't a fairytale. There are people who die for no reason just because some mad muslim decided so. Some of you will say Breivik? Yeah, what's the ratio of Breivik and fans to that of muslim terrorists?


The funny thing I know is that if any white person would treat women they way Islam does they'd get total shit of leftists.

Not really. There are thousands of rich, white dudes out there that treat women like garbage and get away with it.


That's a really stupid thing to say in response and literally has no value.

You do dislike facts. Did you know that rich white dudes have been sexually harassing women forever? Sometime they are just their bosses and not even rich. Then when the women accuse them of sexual harassment, no one believes them. Sometimes legit date rape victims come forward in the US and everyone claims they made it up? Or tell them it happened because their cloths were to sexy?

Plenty of white dudes treat women terribly and don't get blamed at all. Some of them get praised. Some of them are the head of major "news" networks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 03:33:42
July 25 2016 03:29 GMT
#569
On July 25 2016 12:17 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 12:14 SK.Testie wrote:
On July 25 2016 11:58 Plansix wrote:
On July 25 2016 11:56 sharkie wrote:
On July 25 2016 08:55 Shield wrote:
I think we've got a bigger problem than terrorism. It's politically correct left wingers who say it's "racist" or "islamophobic" not to want muslims in Europe. Guess what. Islam isn't compatible with foundations of democracy, women's rights, etc, so stop pretending the world is perfect and we can all live happily together. This isn't a fairytale. There are people who die for no reason just because some mad muslim decided so. Some of you will say Breivik? Yeah, what's the ratio of Breivik and fans to that of muslim terrorists?


The funny thing I know is that if any white person would treat women they way Islam does they'd get total shit of leftists.

Not really. There are thousands of rich, white dudes out there that treat women like garbage and get away with it.


That's a really stupid thing to say in response and literally has no value.

You do dislike facts. Did you know that rich white dudes have been sexually harassing women forever? Sometime they are just their bosses and not even rich. Then when the women accuse them of sexual harassment, no one believes them. Sometimes legit date rape victims come forward in the US and everyone claims they made it up? Or tell them it happened because their cloths were to sexy?

Plenty of white dudes treat women terribly and don't get blamed at all. Some of them get praised. Some of them are the head of major "news" networks.


Man, i'm sorry, but you missed the point by miles here.

Nobody is saying white douchebags don't treat women badly. They're douchebags after all. The main point that someone made was "is islam as it is practiced in the regions that we see moving to europe compatible to democracy and our values".

There's zero connection to white guys being dicks. And lets be clear here: a while back i posted statistics about what kind of people arrive in germany (i assume it's equal for the other countries in europe). Two thirds illiterate, uneducated. Rural people. The people where women don't even think they get mistreated, because "that's how it should be". Or the people where the brother kills his sister because she's too "obscene". Which happened in germany as well, multiple times, called "Ehrenmorde/honorkills".

After cologne it should be blatantly clear that we're talking a major problem here.
On track to MA1950A.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 04:03:12
July 25 2016 03:33 GMT
#570
On July 25 2016 12:17 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 12:14 SK.Testie wrote:
On July 25 2016 11:58 Plansix wrote:
On July 25 2016 11:56 sharkie wrote:
On July 25 2016 08:55 Shield wrote:
I think we've got a bigger problem than terrorism. It's politically correct left wingers who say it's "racist" or "islamophobic" not to want muslims in Europe. Guess what. Islam isn't compatible with foundations of democracy, women's rights, etc, so stop pretending the world is perfect and we can all live happily together. This isn't a fairytale. There are people who die for no reason just because some mad muslim decided so. Some of you will say Breivik? Yeah, what's the ratio of Breivik and fans to that of muslim terrorists?


The funny thing I know is that if any white person would treat women they way Islam does they'd get total shit of leftists.

Not really. There are thousands of rich, white dudes out there that treat women like garbage and get away with it.


That's a really stupid thing to say in response and literally has no value.

You do dislike facts. Did you know that rich white dudes have been sexually harassing women forever? Sometime they are just their bosses and not even rich. Then when the women accuse them of sexual harassment, no one believes them. Sometimes legit date rape victims come forward in the US and everyone claims they made it up? Or tell them it happened because their cloths were to sexy?

Plenty of white dudes treat women terribly and don't get blamed at all. Some of them get praised. Some of them are the head of major "news" networks.


First off, I don't excuse rich cunts of any colour treating people like shit. I don't excuse poor cunts of any colour treating people like shit. But if we look at the countries in general, we'll see a little difference in values. Last I checked a womans voice was worth just as much as a mans in court. In fact, in divorce cases I'm pretty sure it's probably worth more. So let's not start off thinking the two cultures are remotely the same, ok? We're trying to be honest and not a leftist hug box of bullshit.

Lose a divorce case to a woman here? Half your shit and alimony. Was she the breadwinner? Who cares fuck you, you're a man. Want to use tinder for free food? LOL. np.

No, they get accused and it is up to the accusers to bring proof. It's that simple. The women get plenty of support and benefit of the doubt, however, they get some skepticism and rightly so. We've seen plenty of scorned women try to take rape all the way to court and even lie about it for revenge and have been completely and utterly laughed out of court by the justice system.

If women want to talk seriously about things, they have to leave 'safe spaces' like Jezebel and TwoxChromosome on reddit and enter a nice free speech zone with no moderation. But.. they don't fucking do that, now do they? Because when free speech is involved, they don't get shouted down they simply hate the evidence that's presented to them because it smashes their worldview into pieces and cognitive dissonance shakes them to their core.

I'll defend women when they're in the right gladly. But I'll not excuse the wrong. Is Bill Clinton a rapist? I don't know. He was a powerful and charismatic man, I don't know if he's a rapist. Is Bill Cosby? No clue, in his case a little more likely not because he's black but because of the stories and the use of pills in womens drinks. Was Jian Ghomeshi a rapist? No, literally a dude into S&M and was kinky as fuck but the women LOVED it at the time. They were scorned so they plotted revenge. How about Mattress Girl? A complete fraud. There's so many fraudulent claims especially on rich and powerful men that it's ridiculous. Are some real? Of course. But we need evidence. A woman's word is not enough. If a woman cries, "why won't you believe he raped me?!!" you get stories like this:
Some women are stupid Plansix. In this particular case, every single woman who testified and brought false charges against Ghomeshi

Now, even despite this I believe that most rape claims are true. I have an inherit bias towards believing the woman, however I also have a strong belief that you must be able to prove it in a court of law. You cannot simply win on word alone, that's wrong. That's terrible and a complete joke on our justice system. If you've been raped, be responsible. Report it immediately, and go to a hospital. Get as much proof as you can. Don't feel guilty, realize that you didn't want it and be an adult.

Honest question: what forum right now has complete free speech and is mostly fielded by women? Because I don't really find any. But if you go to womens pages you'll see safe spaces galore and moderated content. Maybe I just haven't looked hard enough.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
July 25 2016 03:35 GMT
#571
Please, oh god, my eyes, ..

Never ever source dailymail again. Please.
On track to MA1950A.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 25 2016 03:37 GMT
#572
Fine fine i'll source something else there's plenty to choose from.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 03:40:24
July 25 2016 03:39 GMT
#573
I know. I didn't comment on your content, it's just that i've got a dailymailophobia.

I "literally" lose braincells every time it pops up on the screen.
On track to MA1950A.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 03:41:54
July 25 2016 03:40 GMT
#574
I find people who complain about safe spaces are most mad because they found out they were not welcome on every part of the Internet. Moderated discussion is the cornerstone of academia, but requires people to do the required reading. People get so man when even a fraction of those requirements are applied to the Internet.

Edit: oh no a false claim of rape. That totally cancels out all the real rapes people just ignored or didn't believe.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 25 2016 03:44 GMT
#575
Most people give the benefit of the doubt to the rape accusers, that's why they get off with 0 punishment often times despite bringing false claims Plansix.

It doesn't stop it from being needed to be proven in a court of law. And yes, some people will be skeptics. Do you think rape victims should have 100% public support every single time they call rape? Wouldn't that be fucked up and just destroy our justice system if outside of every rape trial the angry mob demanded justice?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 25 2016 03:46 GMT
#576
On July 25 2016 00:49 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 21:18 Toadesstern wrote:
somewhat related, in german:

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/digital/amoklauf-in-muenchen-zurueck-in-die-nullerjahre-de-maizire-reanimiert-killerspiel-debatte-1.3092117

man I thought we were past that killergames discussion...

Here is his Steam profile.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197987833533

He got VAC banned a month ago.


is that real? Look at the names...
+ Show Spoiler [picture] +
[image loading]
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 03:50:52
July 25 2016 03:48 GMT
#577
People who claim they got mugged get the benifit of the doubt. Someone gets beat up, we assume they are not lying. But women and rape are special, apparently.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 03:57:51
July 25 2016 03:52 GMT
#578
On July 25 2016 12:48 Plansix wrote:
People who claim they got mugged get the benifit of the doubt. Someone gets beat up, we assume they are not lying. But womens and rape are special, apparently.


I quite literally said that they do get the majority of the benefit of the doubt. And I'm quite positive that they do. There's always a massive support wave of normal people, there's people holding on and saying.. 'waiiiiiit a second'. And there's people on both sides attacking people just for the sake of it when people should simply wait and see what's proven in a court of law. That's all that matters. Can you win in a court of law. Whether it happened or not that's the most important part.

If women are to be believed Plansix, then Bill Clinton must be a rapist. Well, is he a rapist? Multiple accusations you know. Do you believe he raped women in his spare time?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4416 Posts
July 25 2016 04:16 GMT
#579
On July 25 2016 11:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 11:56 sharkie wrote:
On July 25 2016 08:55 Shield wrote:
I think we've got a bigger problem than terrorism. It's politically correct left wingers who say it's "racist" or "islamophobic" not to want muslims in Europe. Guess what. Islam isn't compatible with foundations of democracy, women's rights, etc, so stop pretending the world is perfect and we can all live happily together. This isn't a fairytale. There are people who die for no reason just because some mad muslim decided so. Some of you will say Breivik? Yeah, what's the ratio of Breivik and fans to that of muslim terrorists?


The funny thing I know is that if any white person would treat women they way Islam does they'd get total shit of leftists.

Not really. There are thousands of rich, white dudes out there that treat women like garbage and get away with it.

Yeah.Fuck all those rich white guys making sure their daughters get FGM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4416 Posts
July 25 2016 04:18 GMT
#580
On July 25 2016 12:46 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 00:49 zeo wrote:
On July 24 2016 21:18 Toadesstern wrote:
somewhat related, in german:

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/digital/amoklauf-in-muenchen-zurueck-in-die-nullerjahre-de-maizire-reanimiert-killerspiel-debatte-1.3092117

man I thought we were past that killergames discussion...

Here is his Steam profile.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197987833533

He got VAC banned a month ago.


is that real? Look at the names...
+ Show Spoiler [picture] +
[image loading]

So why did this guy get banned from steam, does anyone know?
Messages on the forums or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
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