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TJHuggins
39 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On July 14 2015 09:24 TJHuggins wrote: I am dealing with someone that is taking priority in real life right now so I do not have time to write out a big post. I will give the essential information that I can provide to town tomorrow. probably. By essential information is that a blue claim? Or just something your saying. Also in response to MD's most recent post, is there guarantee of an "experienced" mafia? I thought the roles were 100% randomized. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On July 14 2015 09:29 GhandiEAGLE wrote: By essential information is that a blue claim? Or just something your saying. Also in response to MD's most recent post, is there guarantee of an "experienced" mafia? I thought the roles were 100% randomized. There is no guarantee and roles are randomized but the conclusion I'm drawing is that there HAS to be an "experienced" mafia. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On July 14 2015 06:55 Tictock wrote: This is probably very solid. Very unlikely that mafia buss their teammate in this situation when MD is another option. The only situation where things get tricky is if MD is in fact mafia as well here... Seems unlikely to me, but also means MD is an ok Cop check. Why is MD a cop check? Please explain more from your reasoning. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Day 2 Vote Count TJHuggins(2): Ticktock, Half the Sky, MoosyDoosy(1): GhandiEAGLE GhandiEAGLE(1): Grokken Not Voting(7): Fidei86, Noobking, WonnaPlay, scott31337, MoosyDoosy, TJHuggins, silentwarrior Reminder Voting is done here. It is mandatory to vote. Not doing so will result in a warning a second non vote will result in a modkill and action taken against you in the Mafia ban thread. Currently Sulfurus is set to be lynched with 4 votes. Day 1 ends in PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IT IS MANDATORY TO VOTE. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On July 14 2015 08:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote: 9) HtS Untouchable right now. No fun there :< This is such a weird way to say you think HtS is town... As others have pointed out that whole reads post seems really off as well. A lot of your reads seem to move in one direction but you conclude the opposite. Nothing is well explained either. Like your Fidei read, hes voting for you and that makes him town? That makes little sense, if Ghandi is town then Fidei voting for him should make Ghandi worried that Fidei could be mafia not convince him he is town. Also that lie/mistake about TJ feels really wierd too, Fidei might very well be onto something there. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On July 14 2015 10:37 scott31337 wrote: Why is MD a cop check? Please explain more from your reasoning. My reasoning was in the post you quoted. MD is playing the role of easy lynchbait, which is why I am leaning town on him. His posts make little sense for scum, at least to me. He was clearly being scum read by a lot of people however, and the only way we don't get a lot of confirmed town off the D1 votes is if MD is in fact mafia here. Thus I was saying MD was an ok Cop check for those reasons. Since I posted that so close to the start of D2 I guess it was more of a "I can see why someone might Cop check MD" than " Someone should cop check MD" Just in case we do have a Cop and before this discussion is brought up, there is no reason to claim just yet. It is better to hold off any claims till it benefits town more. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Since this is a newbie game the scum team has a coach to help them make better choices. Thus a seemingly well thought out NK does not for sure mean there is a veteran player on the scum team, it could easily just mean they have a solid coach. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
##Vote: Ghandi | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On July 14 2015 14:23 Tictock wrote: This is such a weird way to say you think HtS is town... As others have pointed out that whole reads post seems really off as well. A lot of your reads seem to move in one direction but you conclude the opposite. Nothing is well explained either. Like your Fidei read, hes voting for you and that makes him town? That makes little sense, if Ghandi is town then Fidei voting for him should make Ghandi worried that Fidei could be mafia not convince him he is town. Also that lie/mistake about TJ feels really wierd too, Fidei might very well be onto something there. I think it makes him town because, so far, the consensus was that I was neutral. There was a train starting on TJ, and pushing me there when there wasn't a large chance that a lot of people would follow seems like someone genuinely snooping for scum. Basically, to me he's either totally a townie or scumteam with TJ who was just looking for someone to re-orient the train onto. Honestly with that thinking, I think the most telling thing to do as to the alignment of Fidei would be to lynch TJ (scum makes Fidei more suspicious, town makes Fidei pretty clearly townie). I'm still not voting for TJ yet because Fidei is hardly the most pressing case when you look at some of the other people in the game right now, and I didn't think the bandwagon needed more momentum. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On July 14 2015 09:13 MoosyDoosy wrote: I decided not to do it since n00bKing was right. There was >1% chance I was gonna die. It's better for Mafia to keep me alive since I'll attract people who are tunneled like Ghandi while I'm not doing anything for town right now besides my initial trap. I still have my thoughts but I prefer to keep them to myself until I find a slip. Just say what your thoughts are, for the love of Christ! All this crap you CONTINUE to spout is driving me up the wall. All of the most vocal town players have you as town now, but your continued refusal to actually participate meaningfully in the game makes you easy lynchbait later on. If you're town - which I think you are - then you are actively hindering us at this point. Please think about that, and then give us your reads and generally just buck the hell up. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
Town: Half The Sky - She started the Sulfurus wagon that nobody else was on, when we were happily about to lynch Moosy. Also, from a meta perspective, I don't see a scum HTS bussing a noob team mate when there was absolutely no reason to do so. Strong Town-lean: N00b - Again, I don't see any reason for n00b to start pinging out a scum buddy this early, particularly not where the vote circumstances were so close. Unless the scum team includes Moosy, I don't see a world in which n00b is Mafia. Town-lean: Grokken, WonnaPlay, Silent - I think we're going to struggle on these three because English isn't the first language for at least two of them, and they're all being pretty quiet. That said, from their filters, I don't see any particularly strong reason to scum read any of them. Their posting has read naturally (other than Silent's atrocious early posts, which I already flagged). That said, the all really need to up their games, as they will make reasonable lynch-bait as the game moves forward. Moosy - This guy is driving me nuts. His play makes no sense whatsoever, from any perspective. He constantly promises reads then does not deliver, and is generally utterly useless. However, I think the vote outcome at d1 is pretty compelling. Sulfurus was indifferent to his death, when if it was a bus I think he would go for the town cried and bus properly. Scum lean: TJH - HTS covered this already, and it's clear at least a fair few people agree. This biggest indictment on him is his randomly including Sulfurus on his scum list without explanation, then being so indignant not only about the vote counting, but also about the vote in general, even though we hit scum. Scott - Scott is an absolutely worthy policy lynch right now. We've bought a day with out d1 lynch, and I refuse to take someone with Scott's filter forward towards LYLO. Not only is it atrociously short, but it's also devoid of any meaningful content at all. It has been four days, bro, and even the guy in Geneva (TT), the Swede and the Netherlander have been able to get their thoughts out. NHM/TT - I was scum reading NHM for both general inactivity and his weird thread entry, voting for me and also referring to me as "this guy" when we'd been bantering just before game start. TT has also been meh this far, but I might leave it to HTS to give me a good read, since I tunnelled TT so hard the last game we played together. Scum: Ghandi - his last post was like a roller coaster. His town lead on me was totally rational because he is right, everyone else has him as neutral and I think me calling him out is towny (but then I'm biased, obviously). But then he goes on to say that TJH is a good lynch to figure out my alignment, which is laughable because 1. Everyone is town reading me and nobody is discussing my lynch, and 2. shouldn't we be lunching people because they're scummy? Lynching someone everyone has a scum read on to give you information about someone everyone has a town read on is just bizarre. Then he finishes by saying he doesn't even want to vote for his scum read, because there isn't a wagon on me yet. WTF? At work now, but I'll keep up to speed through the day. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On July 14 2015 15:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote: I'm still not voting for TJ yet because Fidei is hardly the most pressing case when you look at some of the other people in the game right now, and I didn't think the bandwagon needed more momentum. Yea... You're scum. Fidei should have nothing to do with voting for TJ, you are the only person to be trying to make an association between the two. In my mind Fidei pushing on people other than TJ is great for town since there are still 2 scum left and there was no clear associations between Sulf and anyone. Pre-flip associations like this are terrible for town and likely scum modivated to push mislynches. @ Fidei Sorry you feel like I'm misrepresenting you, I suppose I should have typed pushing instead of voting. Doesn't seem like a big difference to me though since it was pretty clear where your head was at in regards to Ghandi. Still, given our last game together I would find it odd if you weren't weary of me. So more town points for you. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
After this hour I will be in the air for about 10 hours, but I'll be checking in and whatnot when I arrive home tonight. I should be around for EoD as well assuming I'm not completely messed up by timezone stuff. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
MD and Scott fall into somewhat null territory but with slight townreads. Scott made that one post where he put everyone on the Sulf wagon as town. Scum need to get town to lynch town, so listing that many people as town seems like a bad move for scum to make. Its not strong, but its enough for me to lean a little more town on Scott. I need to filter dive SW as I have no idea about him yet, probably wont get a chance till after I get home though. My town circle is the 3 remaining people who voted for Sulf. Probably never going to lynch these people: HtS n00b Fidei I'm still reading Grok as town also, but it isn't nearly as strong as the other 3. Hope I didnt forget anyone. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Hopefully there are some decent movies on the flight. On the way out here I watched the entire Hobbit trilogy, was kinda nice to see all 3 movies in one sitting. | ||
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