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Also, Heya to Scott and Fidei.
Kinda jumping in so wanted to get myself on some better footing with reads right off the bat, but always nice to see familiar faces... Er nametags?
@ HtS
I am currently in Geneva, but tonight is my last night here. Will be boarding a flight tomorrow morning back to the States.
I'm visiting my dad who moved out here a few years ago ( he works for the WMO), and did a crazy trip over the past week. We've been here in Geneva, Germany, and also Poland. Technically France as well but only for a short bit today.
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On July 14 2015 02:48 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 02:16 Tictock wrote:
This is literally scotts only post, and it is wierd that he would say he needs to reread anything on the 3rd page of the game.
I'm used to town!scott being more involved, so I'm thinking he rolled scum this game. Yeah, I made the same comment, about it being strange for him to say he needs to "re-read" when we had only just started. Scott COULD be scum here, but man...just how much "mailing it in" can we expect from one scum team? Sulf had like 5 posts, and Scott has 1? That's their gameplan? Show nested quote +Ticktock wrote: Oh also I doubt he [Grokken] would make a list post like this that calls out Sulf so early if he were mafia. Still think "Neutral read so far, maybe slight scumlean" is not much of a call-out. But I wouldn't push for a vigilante shot on Grokken or anything. So there will be more time to evaluate him. (Though I may not be around for that, since I've been killed on Night 1 in 100% of my TL Mafia games! And Fidei requesting that HtS receive protection clears the way for my demise!)
You are correct it is not much of a call out, however Sulf was the first person he listed as his scumreads.
I just dont see scum making a list post that early that lists a teammate so highly on the list.
I might be giving him too much credit for that, but its stronger than a meta or tone read imo.
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On July 14 2015 03:52 scott31337 wrote: FINAL VOTE COUNT Sulfurus(4):Half the Sky, Fidei86, Kelsier SC, NoobkingMoosyDoosy(3): Grokken, TJHuggins, Sulfurus NydusHerMain (1): silentwarrior Fidei86(1): NydusHerMain Not Voting(4): WonnaPlay, scott31337, GhandiEAGLE. MoosyDoosy I mean I have to believe everyone on Sulf is town - with HtS at the top. I'm going to re-read every one on Moosy. TT replaced NHM. Welcome ol' buddy 
This is probably very solid. Very unlikely that mafia buss their teammate in this situation when MD is another option.
The only situation where things get tricky is if MD is in fact mafia as well here...
Seems unlikely to me, but also means MD is an ok Cop check.
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Considering scum want maximum capital and some were semi-doubting KSC. I find the NK unusual.
Could be a medic dodge if there is a medic in the setup.
Only other thing I can think of if KSC was on to someone that no one else was. That is another angle.
Nightkills are WIFOM but it's to look at all angles.
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Humm yea KSC was not who I expectedto see NK'd.
Looks like a medic dodge to me for sure. Don't recall KSC having very solid reads on anyone.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
set up cabin, lynch mafia, get NK'd
ez fucking game
GG yo , good luck town
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Also I have been roleblocked. I just received note of this.
This means a medic dodge is possible and the prot role is a medic. In randomised open setups, if there is roleblockable veteran in the setup, usually the RB and NK actions are stacked on the target to avoid chancing hitting the veteran. The fact that the nightactions were on separate targets, indicates that the prot role is likely to be a medic.
(It should also be of note that scum already know the setup from the off, so me discussing this doesn't give them any extra advantage.)
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On July 14 2015 06:40 Tictock wrote:
@ HtS
I am currently in Geneva, but tonight is my last night here. Will be boarding a flight tomorrow morning back to the States.
I'm visiting my dad who moved out here a few years ago ( he works for the WMO), and did a crazy trip over the past week. We've been here in Geneva, Germany, and also Poland. Technically France as well but only for a short bit today.
Very nice. I hope you enjoyed your holiday! Sounds like a blast.
Speaking of life on the road, I'm headed to Munich for work in about 3 weeks time after a trip to the States (specifically NYC) starting Friday for 3 weeks (again for work) so I'm headed for a very interesting road trip myself.
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On July 14 2015 07:13 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 06:40 Tictock wrote:
@ HtS
I am currently in Geneva, but tonight is my last night here. Will be boarding a flight tomorrow morning back to the States.
I'm visiting my dad who moved out here a few years ago ( he works for the WMO), and did a crazy trip over the past week. We've been here in Geneva, Germany, and also Poland. Technically France as well but only for a short bit today. Very nice. I hope you enjoyed your holiday! Sounds like a blast. Speaking of life on the road, I'm headed to Munich for work in about 3 weeks time after a trip to the States (specifically NYC) starting Friday for 3 weeks (again for work) so I'm headed for a very interesting road trip myself.
Very cool, I have not had the chance to visit NYC myself, but that should be a fun trip.
Hopefully its not all work and you get some time to Play! (No I'm not talking about Mafia :p )
If you are ever in Colorado feel free to drop me a PM.
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Ok I need to head to bed, and I'm not sure how much I'll be around tomorrow so going to drop my vote now.
##Vote: TJHuggins
I've already made a few posts explaining my read on him and HtS also made a semi case.
I'm not sure who the other scum might be but my gut tells me it's not Grok (also I have a town read on Grok) and is one of the non-voters. Just not sure who yet.
I will be back home before the end of D2 so fear not, I shall return.
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Almost forgot. Scum could have been bluehunting and KSC was more subdued than usual. Sometimes blue roles do hang back. That could explain the shot too. Interesting.
Without further ado...
##vote TJHuggins
Will return tomorrow.
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Surprised they actually went after Kelsier. At least it confirms my worry that he jumped on Sulfurus as scum to try and assure his own safety; I was just about to post about that, especially since I had a totally unjustifiable scum meta read on him.
By the way, TJH isn't scum to me. He was an early bird on the Sulfurus scum train. That won't be enough to make me think he's town, but it is enough to give me pause before lynching him Day 2. Not ready to jump on that train.
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edit: it confirms that Kelsier did NOT do that
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On July 14 2015 07:54 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Surprised they actually went after Kelsier. At least it confirms my worry that he jumped on Sulfurus as scum to try and assure his own safety; I was just about to post about that, especially since I had a totally unjustifiable scum meta read on him.
By the way, TJH isn't scum to me. He was an early bird on the Sulfurus scum train. That won't be enough to make me think he's town, but it is enough to give me pause before lynching him Day 2. Not ready to jump on that train.
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TJH actually said *nothing* about Sulfurus, except adding him at #2 to his 'scum list' out of nowhere, and then being angry we didn't lynch Moosy. He voted for Moosy. To say he was "an early bird on the Sulfurus Train" is just totally wrong.
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I think Moosy is either playing a really abysmal town, or is scum. I'm still not sold enough to vote (I realize I say that a lot), but honestly constantly deflecting suspicion with sarcasm. Despite that sarcasm, he doesn't do shit for the town.
On July 12 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 01:49 TJHuggins wrote:My initial reads so far is that i am town leaning on Fidei. I like the things he said in relation to spamming, and I think that him relating the perspective to a previous game where he was town feels like he's looking at the game from the perspective of a town. When he responded to HTS regarding talking about anti-spam being easy, he seems genuine. Or maybe it's just because I like his writing. No clue. My initial scum read is Grokken. It's nothing all that strong but I'm getting a wierd feeling about the things he's posted. To me it feels like he is trying to find ways to participate and seem town by chiming in now and again but really has no clue what to write about. On July 11 2015 09:36 Grokken wrote:On July 11 2015 09:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
My blood sense is telling me to lynch everyone who knows what theyre doing We should listen to this guy, he seems to know what he is doing. On July 11 2015 13:27 Grokken wrote:On July 11 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote:
Hi, back home. You guys are fucking boring me.
##Vote: Fidei
I don't like the way this guy posts early Can you elaborate on this? What in particular is it that you don't like? I think that one sentence posts that appear to contribute to the game and don't really offer anything just kind of irk me the wrong way. I guess it's worth noting he did write that thing about Dota as well which was also one sentence but that's neither here nor there when it comes to the game I think. When I went back and read the post about him showing off his dota stats that actually reads to me a bit more towny now that I think about it, so not really sure. just an initial read. I don't agree with this but let's see what Ghandi says.
Why did this happen? It made little sense to ask me, other than I was one of the few early proactive people on the thread and it would make sense to get me on his side. He had no real reason to ask me specifically here, and no real reason to believe that my opinions would hold much weight.
On July 12 2015 02:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 02:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Grokken's first post seems pretty innocuous to me, and even if there was something sinister behind it, reading someone at all in the first few posts creates poor conclusions, imo.
Second post there is sketchier to me, in that it seems serious in its attempts to prod the town, despite not actually bringing up any discussion that will lead to a conclusion. That's a little smelly to me. That said, it's tiny enough that it could fly either way.
Day 1 reads are all luck anyways :| Exactly what I was thinking. His first post seems to be more of a first page banter post. The second one is asking for clarification although as you say, it leads nowhere. But then again, newer players have a tendency to ask for clarification without having a drive behind it. Any thoughts on the suspicion of you Ghandi? :3
There it is again. No reason to be prodding me except that he might suspect that I'm scum (unlikely at that point in the thread), or he's trying to deflect conversations, looking like he moves conversation forward, without actually doing so.
Then he didn't vote, which I didn't either because I forgot about the separate voting thread. So this is excusable because I suck :/
Also, he constantly uses emoticons, which I distrust by nature and generally indicate self-consciousness (I'm not kidding it often points to mafia). Never trust an emoticon.
The rest of his filter is absolute trash, by the way. Nothing helpful at all; all of his posts constantly criticize other people for suspecting him, while offering literally zero content to push the town forward. If he isn't scum, I'd still policy lynch him Day 3 since based_HTS gave us plenty of time. I need meaningful contribution from Moosey or I'm not likely moving off of my vote without heavy evidence on someone else.
##Vote: MoosyDoosy
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Hey guys, good job on the lynch. Sorry for not being around.
On July 13 2015 05:15 Sulfurus wrote:So as far as I am concerned Moosy has killed himself and talking about him is a waste of time, which ironically makes Kelsier the most productive town since he moved the conversation to something actually important. Anyway I noticed that HTS came to Grokk's defense against an accurate post on him even after calling Grokk out for blatantly reversing his read on Moosy just to fit thread sentiment. What's up with that?
Sulfurus made this post, and voted for MD. This could mean 2 things:
1. He thinks his scumbuddy is done for, and is bussing him for town cred.
2. Is mindlessly wagoning him to get an easy townlynch.
I'm not very impressed with his Sulfs day 1 overall. He did nothing to establish himself as a townie, and then slips up with the post above, resulting in getting caught. With 4 votes for MD, his lynch was far from decided, so I don't think bussing is probable. I think option 2 is much more likely.
So despite MD's clowny posts earlier, I have to lean town on him.
If MD is town, HtS/Fidei/n00bking are also confirmed as town, for obvious reasons.
On July 13 2015 08:05 silentwarrior wrote:Hey guys, good lynch. As of now, I think that, aside from those who voted on sulfurus, these two are town: Grokken and MoosyDoosy. MoosyDoosy is a little obvious, sulfurus woulnd't go for him if he was another mafia. And a sacrifice here seems unlikely, seeing as MoosyDoosy was nowhere a done deal, so he could have been saved still. Sulfurus getting on the MoosyDoosy train seems like a way to just vote on the most popular one and slip by. He basically admitted to doing this even. Then Grokken is because of this post: Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 06:22 Grokken wrote:
I figure it's time for me to make an actual post now that the thread is getting more active.
Sulfurus:
Has made a few posts, but only one-liners and contentless posts. I know you are here and reading the thread, why not try to post something more useful? Neutral read so far, maybe slight scumlean.
He pings sulfurus as a scum lean fairly early, before any of the recent suspicion started. That means that most likely that they aren't mafia partners, as mafia will not give scumlean to their own partners when there is no other big suspicion on him. This leads me to believe that he is town as well.
At this point, I'm far from confirmed town. Peoples reads on me seem to be fairly neutral. Therefore, the above post makes me think SW is town. If SW was mafia, why would he be townreading me? I think it would be more mafia-like for him to try to cast suspicion on me in order to get me mislynched.
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