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On June 19 2015 05:41 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 05:39 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2015 05:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Argh, I can't read anymore, information isn't getting through my head.
I've defended myself as I could. If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll answer them as much as I can.
If you're open to see me from a town persperctive, take a look at the 5 questions I've brought on my filter. You will definetly realise it makes more sense of a play coming from town than from a mafia. Are all the mafia on your wagon? If you had to pick 1 person as mafia who is not on your wagon right now, who would it be? Breshke Same case as before?
Yes.
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Day 1 Vote Count
boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain
GlowingBear (5): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC
LightningStrike (2): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSC
Holyflare (1): boxerfred
Onegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain
Lohengramm (0): VayneAuthority
ShoCkeyy (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): wherebugsgo
rsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflare
wherebugsgo (0): KelsierSC
Mig (0): wherebugsgo
Not voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig
Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
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On June 19 2015 05:42 rsoultin wrote:is this relevant or can it wait until after the day phase? (if it's about leaving early i apologize, but you know class and speeches and all that jazz  )
not it is about ignoring my case on migs when you came back to the thread -.- and i want to lynch migs...but that's probably not happening.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
I don't feel nearly as good about bf as i do gb
On June 19 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:06 ritoky wrote:
okay from HF's thing i remember the vanishing onegu read and the lack of follow-up on VA stuff which was kinda scummy.
any1 gonna try to convince me on BF, or is that just a wagon full of AFKs? ok the thing is about bf is he was a major major point of contention in the last game the entire game and constantly looked scummy so now i'm getting the willies since i think gb is mafia and he was quite fucking happy to just afk on bf with his hipster only first post read and bf has promised he'd play tomorrow so i'm kindddddd of willing to let it slide especially with this mafia gb trying to throw shit in every direction to people scum reading him and then asking loaded questions where he's prepared the worst/most fake answers ever
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I tentatively dislike lynching GB but I'm only on p6 of his filter.
It reads tonally carefree.
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On June 19 2015 05:46 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:42 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 05:41 ritoky wrote:
rsoul i am still upset with you -.- is this relevant or can it wait until after the day phase? (if it's about leaving early i apologize, but you know class and speeches and all that jazz ) not it is about ignoring my case on migs when you came back to the thread -.- and i want to lynch migs...but that's probably not happening.
oh, that!
yeah, i saw your case on migs and got your point :/ it went against my <3s at logical players lol like breshke in all honesty, which was why i asked wbg if migs is capable of posting really logically like that when he's scum. wbg didn't seem to think so and i've got a decent townread on him i think so i feel i can at least trust that he believes that
does that make sense?
i was paying attention, just oddly enough...not...sharing every single thought in my head
i get your point, though. let me take a look at migs next to see if his filter gives me a different feel
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On June 19 2015 05:46 Lohengramm wrote:
I tentatively dislike lynching GB but I'm only on p6 of his filter.
It reads tonally carefree.
so much this
if wbg doesn't give me a breakdown of his points i'm just going to ignore this wagon on gb entirely, because i'm halfway through it and i don't see gb posting this way as scum, in all honesty
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On June 19 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote:
okay okay okay
enough
we don't need this wbg/fidei sidebar. if you're trying to get reads on each other save it for night
the time for pokes and prods and spam and shitfights is past, ne?
wbg, either your most concise post on the case against gb, please, or better yet break it down for me in short bullet format so i can see if it matches what i see when i dive gb
the other wagon is bf...and maybe ls?
main points against them if they've changed but i'm pretty sure i've caught up as it is on those two
i don't want to see any more talk right now about anyone you don't want to ACTUALLY LYNCH this day phase, and please cut out the sidebar conversations
thank you -_-
just read page 82 onward. My initial scum read of him was greatly strengthened by how he started attacking me back later, and then he slipped really hard several times. The initial read was primarily based on GB flipping his read of LS after LS claimed named VT, which I thought that a townie would not do. I also found it odd that he kept pushing low-hanging fruit like VA and despite stating that he wanted to consolidate or collaborate with me he never asked me anything or gave me any sort of real feedback on reads besides that one poke about whether I wanted to lynch VA. Anyway, from page 82 onward here's what happened.
1. GB claimed that it is antitown to not help town pare down the lynch list despite the fact that he himself was throwing reads around on multiple players. Indeed his latest case was on Breshke, someone I consider likely to be town and very unlikely to get lynched this cycle. Rather odd for GB to claim that not consolidating is antitown yet make a case on someone who's not gonna get lynched.
2. He claimed I was very willing to lynch lurkers last game, here:
Bugs you're scum because last game you were very inclined to lynch lurkers or at least tried to put pressure in them.
Which I called out as a misrepresentation of my play. In the previous game I tried to get him and LS lynched on day 1, both of whom were ACTIVE MAFIA.
3. He decided to double down on the above and I posted this in response to him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?page=83#1641
As you can see he quoted two sets of posts I made from the previous game in an attempt to say that I am scum here because I am not willing to lynch into lurkers. That was obviously not the case then and it's not the case now.
4. KSC's response to GB's Breshke "case" which was overall super shitty
5. VA and Shockeyy's points re: GB getting fake mad and typing in all caps as scum, with two different games as reference (last game in Witch in which myself and Shockeyy played against his scum and GoT mafia from VA)
6. HF's points and reinforcement of most of these things from his own perspective
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On June 19 2015 05:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:46 Lohengramm wrote:
I tentatively dislike lynching GB but I'm only on p6 of his filter.
It reads tonally carefree. so much this if wbg doesn't give me a breakdown of his points i'm just going to ignore this wagon on gb entirely, because i'm halfway through it and i don't see gb posting this way as scum, in all honesty
read holyflare's here:
On June 19 2015 04:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 03:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 03:49 Holyflare wrote:On June 19 2015 03:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
actually rsoultin, Mig, Breshke and HF I want to read your opinions on GB too. Maybe at least one of you will respond so I have something to work with. We have like 5 hours and I don't want to lynch either BF or LS today Quite clearly stated i scum read him and the reasons why. Will be back in about an hour to talk about stuff. +gb where did i ever say the mafia team was all lurkers other than a sarcastic jab at you a while ago? care to jog my memory? I recall you posting something pointing out the consolidation thing but you can pretend I'm a goldfish for the purposes of this exercise. I just want to know that you have real opinions I can trust. But of course if you don't wanna play we can have it your way  Well it's on my last page of filter? Pretty much pushed gb all last night. Summary is: Hypocritical outlook on the game between you and himself Sheeps me while expressing disdain for the sheep (game of thrones meta same) Reads + questions that don't get followed up, aka va stuff etc (scum read on me completely vanished too) Started to afk and not do shit Got called out by me and still didn't do shit apart from asking me useless questions Said boxerfed read was shit, stayed on wagon anyway because of his read on boxerfreds first post???? Randomly nitpicked ls for no reason and then gave him a town pass for stuff that ls had already done before the nitpicking Says game is bad because no consolidation but just flat out refuses to even read cases on scummy people did no scum hunting while complaining about no consolidation Lurker cop out reasoning Misrepresents you and breshke hardcore Fake rage (game of thrones meta same) Probably shit tonne more that i forgot but this is top of my head
i tried to read bugs and it was very unconvincing.
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United States4714 Posts
I am on my phone, but got caught up
Ritoky - Guess what I dont know everyones alignment, if someone says something that looks townie to me I will say it. I didnt say that post made LS town but it made me reconsider the possibility of it. Explain to me how exactly this makes me mafia.
GB- are you voting BF because you think there is a good chance he flips scum or just to save yourself?
If the caps lock stuck isnt AI can you post an example of you doing it as town? I cant look through past games atm.
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On June 18 2015 14:38 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:34 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:32 GlowingBear wrote:
This should be the lynch list to discuss today:
- Lohengramm
- ShoCkeyy
- Fidei86
- Breshke
- Mig
- VayneAuthority
- boxerfred
Not in order.
Rsoultin and ritoky, is there anyone from here you don't want to lynch today? the problem is that is a list of low post count/low hanging fruit in a lot of cases which means i am probably wrong somewhere, but w/e. breshke and fid would be the last 2 i lynch on that list atm, but if a case was made that was good i could be convinced. Lost post count is exactly what made this list + some scummy things in some of the filters. Like, if I had to put in order form LYNCH NOW to DUNNO LOL, it would be something like this: - Breshke - ShoCkeyy - Lohengramm - boxerfred - VayneAuthority - Mig - Fidei86 Yes, I totally flipped my read on Breshke
I do wonder how this list was formed
it seems kinda out of nowhere given his posting up to this point
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On June 19 2015 05:55 Lohengramm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:38 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:34 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:32 GlowingBear wrote:
This should be the lynch list to discuss today:
- Lohengramm
- ShoCkeyy
- Fidei86
- Breshke
- Mig
- VayneAuthority
- boxerfred
Not in order.
Rsoultin and ritoky, is there anyone from here you don't want to lynch today? the problem is that is a list of low post count/low hanging fruit in a lot of cases which means i am probably wrong somewhere, but w/e. breshke and fid would be the last 2 i lynch on that list atm, but if a case was made that was good i could be convinced. Lost post count is exactly what made this list + some scummy things in some of the filters. Like, if I had to put in order form LYNCH NOW to DUNNO LOL, it would be something like this: - Breshke - ShoCkeyy - Lohengramm - boxerfred - VayneAuthority - Mig - Fidei86 Yes, I totally flipped my read on Breshke I do wonder how this list was formed it seems kinda out of nowhere given his posting up to this point
his flip on Onegu was also really weird given that when he was town in another game he claimed that not giving reasons for reads/actions is scummy.
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On June 19 2015 05:54 Mig wrote:
I am on my phone, but got caught up
Ritoky - Guess what I dont know everyones alignment, if someone says something that looks townie to me I will say it. I didnt say that post made LS town but it made me reconsider the possibility of it. Explain to me how exactly this makes me mafia.
GB- are you voting BF because you think there is a good chance he flips scum or just to save yourself?
If the caps lock stuck isnt AI can you post an example of you doing it as town? I cant look through past games atm.
I have no experience playing with you. Your posts and reads indicated you are someone convinced by logic and cases. You only interacted with a limited number of players and focused the majority of your time on 2; 1 being LS. You made a 7 point case against him that felt very sound then overturned it quickly for reasons contrary to those you had provided when giving reads (a dumb tell). It felt like following thread sentiment and a complete disconnect from your prior play. If it makes no sense and you're disengaged from the game, you very well could be mafia.
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On June 19 2015 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:55 Lohengramm wrote:On June 18 2015 14:38 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:34 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:32 GlowingBear wrote:
This should be the lynch list to discuss today:
- Lohengramm
- ShoCkeyy
- Fidei86
- Breshke
- Mig
- VayneAuthority
- boxerfred
Not in order.
Rsoultin and ritoky, is there anyone from here you don't want to lynch today? the problem is that is a list of low post count/low hanging fruit in a lot of cases which means i am probably wrong somewhere, but w/e. breshke and fid would be the last 2 i lynch on that list atm, but if a case was made that was good i could be convinced. Lost post count is exactly what made this list + some scummy things in some of the filters. Like, if I had to put in order form LYNCH NOW to DUNNO LOL, it would be something like this: - Breshke - ShoCkeyy - Lohengramm - boxerfred - VayneAuthority - Mig - Fidei86 Yes, I totally flipped my read on Breshke I do wonder how this list was formed it seems kinda out of nowhere given his posting up to this point his flip on Onegu was also really weird given that when he was town in another game he claimed that not giving reasons for reads/actions is scummy.
???
i see a reason in his filter, but if you want to ask him you can (like literally i'm looking at it right now lol ><)
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Also the fact that people just straight didn't comment on the case or basically said "I'll deal with it later" and moved on rubs me the wrong way. They are soft defending you and I don't think there's a particularly legitimate reason why.
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On June 19 2015 03:51 LightningStrike wrote:Honestly if Boxer doesn't vote we should lynch someone else because it would useless to vote someone that would get modkilled. The case on to GB is interesting and LOL at the caps lock he did it in GoT which was just quoted and again he did it a little bit in our last game when I was scum with him in Witchcraft. He could be scum based some of this stuff and I trust my townread on Bugs I willing to sheep him for now based on how Witchcraft went. ##Unvote
##Vote: GlowingBear
My vote actually is on someone, you must've missed my post where I say I'm really busy until the next day.
I'm not even lurking currently, I just skimmed through some pages and found your post sticking out so I want to point that out.
Note how it would be way easier for me to not say that.
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On June 19 2015 05:54 Mig wrote:
I am on my phone, but got caught up
Ritoky - Guess what I dont know everyones alignment, if someone says something that looks townie to me I will say it. I didnt say that post made LS town but it made me reconsider the possibility of it. Explain to me how exactly this makes me mafia.
GB- are you voting BF because you think there is a good chance he flips scum or just to save yourself?
If the caps lock stuck isnt AI can you post an example of you doing it as town? I cant look through past games atm.
sup. care to read my posts on GB?
Also who do you intend on voting today?
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Also I stated why I cannot do much. So I'd prefer to have GB lynched since there is an actual case against him, contrary to me.
##unvote ##vote GlowingBear
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I won't be around for EoD, gotta go to sleep, exam is early tomorrow. I really hope you peeps don't lynch innocent people.
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On June 19 2015 05:59 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 03:51 LightningStrike wrote:On June 19 2015 03:43 KelsierSC wrote:
LS what think you? Honestly if Boxer doesn't vote we should lynch someone else because it would useless to vote someone that would get modkilled. The case on to GB is interesting and LOL at the caps lock he did it in GoT which was just quoted and again he did it a little bit in our last game when I was scum with him in Witchcraft. He could be scum based some of this stuff and I trust my townread on Bugs I willing to sheep him for now based on how Witchcraft went. ##Unvote
##Vote: GlowingBear My vote actually is on someone, you must've missed my post where I say I'm really busy until the next day. I'm not even lurking currently, I just skimmed through some pages and found your post sticking out so I want to point that out. Note how it would be way easier for me to not say that.
I didn't catch it all I thought you didn't vote at all I guess I was blind for a little bit but anyways HF isn't going to get lynched today do you mind reading Bugs case on GB on Page 82ish and give me your thoughts on it?
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