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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
GB if you can link to a game of you putting all caps as town in this sort of situation it would be interesting | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:23 Holyflare wrote: you threw all this meta about bugs and it got proven that you misrepresented it and you still stick to the same read of bugs being mafia because of the meta and his "unnatural push" which doesn't really feel unnatural at all same with breshke case I think it feels unnatural. If you don't, alright. I'm standing to my point because people are thinking that I said "HE WOULD LYNCH LURKERS LOLOLOL" when what I was trying to say is that "he was worried with lurkers there, he isn't here, and it's weird that he scumreads me for wanting to lynch lurkers" And nobody responded to this. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote: @Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this. So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town. Lynching lurkers Day 1 isn't optimal play when you can lynch scum imo. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote: @Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this. So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town. so literally your only reason for wanting to keep GB alive is because there's potentially a better, lurkier player out there? Why don't you read the case on GB instead of using things that are not alignment indicative to get yourself off an actually good lynch? Also it's rather ironic coming from you that we should lynch into the lurkers. I would place you near the top of a lurk list if I had to make one. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote: TL;DR Will someone please start traffic-copping this thread *pretty please* Sorry but there isn't a post limit in this game and I doubt that HTS would change it in the middle of the game. | ||
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Lohengramm
43 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote: @Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this. So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town. this is like the third time I've seen this PSA I think you failed pal | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
lynching active people also gives you incredible information post flip for people's reactions and stances to the wagon whereas a lurker lynch is a massive cop out and people can just free ride it to a mislynch if they are mafia you say day 1 is the hardest day to succeed and that's because there is no flip information, day 2 would be the same with a lurker lynch | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Day 1 Vote Count boxerfred (6): GlowingBear (5): wherebugsgo, LightningStrike (2): Holyflare (1): boxerfred Onegu (0): Lohengramm (0): ShoCkeyy (0): KelsierSC (0): rsoultin (0): wherebugsgo (0): Mig (0): Not voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:27 Holyflare wrote: always lynch scummy people not lurkers unless the lurker is scummy in which case you're still lynching the scummy person lynching active people also gives you incredible information post flip for people's reactions and stances to the wagon whereas a lurker lynch is a massive cop out and people can just free ride it to a mislynch if they are mafia you say day 1 is the hardest day to succeed and that's because there is no flip information, day 2 would be the same with a lurker lynch You made a longer version what I said with better info on why lol. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:25 LightningStrike wrote: Lynching lurkers Day 1 isn't optimal play when you can lynch scum imo. ... I mean, that's obviously true (to the extent that it's basically a truism). My point is that I don't think we have a very good chance of catching a scum today. This thread has been a dumpster, where most people who aren't involved in the OMGUS/tit-for-tat are probably just finding their strongest town read (for me it's Rsoult btw) and sheeping them. But at least if we lynch a lurker, we guarantee that we make it harder for mafia to keep lurking and blending in. I recognise that there's sort of a logical tension here - I'm saying that we should lynch lurkers, but I'm also saying that all this volume of posting is also seriously town-detrimental. I guess I'm just an optimist, as I think people will eventually run out of steam soon and then we can start having some actually quasi-serious discussions. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:25 KelsierSC wrote: quickly before I go GB if you can link to a game of you putting all caps as town in this sort of situation it would be interesting Hmm I can't remember like in this exact situation Christma's Carol and the game I scumread Shockey for its entirety. I think there was a newbie. I do this all the time, man... | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
well at least people are happy to give me a tldr i think i'll just look at the original case and gb's filter ummmm sidenote (don't even know if this applies) but arguments that gb is illogical is what i did in my first game with him...it's how he is @.@ so word to the wise, arguments like that won't convince me he's scum lol | ||
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Lohengramm
43 Posts
I may yet decide to lynch GB regardless of his alignment I think it'll be entertaining | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:27 Holyflare wrote: always lynch scummy people not lurkers unless the lurker is scummy in which case you're still lynching the scummy person lynching active people also gives you incredible information post flip for people's reactions and stances to the wagon whereas a lurker lynch is a massive cop out and people can just free ride it to a mislynch if they are mafia you say day 1 is the hardest day to succeed and that's because there is no flip information, day 2 would be the same with a lurker lynch You think there are no scummy lurkers in the game? What happened to the boxer read? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
off a terrible case xP as town lol >< | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote: definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE off a terrible case xP as town lol >< *NB I WASN'T A LURKER LYNCH | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote: definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE off a terrible case xP as town lol >< And I was right. As right as I am right now. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
She is talking about the caps lock thing STOP PLAYING STUPID WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU | ||
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