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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 18 2015 20:24 GMT
#1841
TL;DR Will someone please start traffic-copping this thread *pretty please*
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 18 2015 20:25 GMT
#1842
quickly before I go

GB if you can link to a game of you putting all caps as town in this sort of situation it would be interesting
Zerg for Life
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 18 2015 20:25 GMT
#1843
On June 19 2015 05:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
like in no sane world can i wrap my head around someone scum reading someone and then getting proven wrong by like 5 different people and still keeping the same read


What are you talking about?


you threw all this meta about bugs and it got proven that you misrepresented it and you still stick to the same read of bugs being mafia because of the meta and his "unnatural push" which doesn't really feel unnatural at all

same with breshke case


I think it feels unnatural. If you don't, alright.

I'm standing to my point because people are thinking that I said "HE WOULD LYNCH LURKERS LOLOLOL" when what I was trying to say is that "he was worried with lurkers there, he isn't here, and it's weird that he scumreads me for wanting to lynch lurkers"

And nobody responded to this.
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 20:25 GMT
#1844
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this.

So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town.

Lynching lurkers Day 1 isn't optimal play when you can lynch scum imo.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 18 2015 20:26 GMT
#1845
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this.

So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town.


so literally your only reason for wanting to keep GB alive is because there's potentially a better, lurkier player out there?

Why don't you read the case on GB instead of using things that are not alignment indicative to get yourself off an actually good lynch?

Also it's rather ironic coming from you that we should lynch into the lurkers. I would place you near the top of a lurk list if I had to make one.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 20:26 GMT
#1846
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
TL;DR Will someone please start traffic-copping this thread *pretty please*

Sorry but there isn't a post limit in this game and I doubt that HTS would change it in the middle of the game.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 20:27 GMT
#1847
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this.

So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town.

this is like the third time I've seen this PSA

I think you failed pal
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 18 2015 20:27 GMT
#1848
always lynch scummy people not lurkers unless the lurker is scummy in which case you're still lynching the scummy person

lynching active people also gives you incredible information post flip for people's reactions and stances to the wagon whereas a lurker lynch is a massive cop out and people can just free ride it to a mislynch if they are mafia

you say day 1 is the hardest day to succeed and that's because there is no flip information, day 2 would be the same with a lurker lynch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 18 2015 20:28 GMT
#1849
Day 1 Vote Count


boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain
GlowingBear (5): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC
LightningStrike (2): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSC
Holyflare (1): boxerfred
Onegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain
Lohengramm (0): VayneAuthority
ShoCkeyy (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC
KelsierSC (0): wherebugsgo
rsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflare
wherebugsgo (0): KelsierSC
Mig (0): wherebugsgo

Not voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig

Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.

Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 20:28 GMT
#1850
On June 19 2015 05:27 Holyflare wrote:
always lynch scummy people not lurkers unless the lurker is scummy in which case you're still lynching the scummy person

lynching active people also gives you incredible information post flip for people's reactions and stances to the wagon whereas a lurker lynch is a massive cop out and people can just free ride it to a mislynch if they are mafia

you say day 1 is the hardest day to succeed and that's because there is no flip information, day 2 would be the same with a lurker lynch

You made a longer version what I said with better info on why lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 18 2015 20:28 GMT
#1851
wow BF is still leading
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 18 2015 20:29 GMT
#1852
On June 19 2015 05:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this.

So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town.

Lynching lurkers Day 1 isn't optimal play when you can lynch scum imo.


... I mean, that's obviously true (to the extent that it's basically a truism). My point is that I don't think we have a very good chance of catching a scum today. This thread has been a dumpster, where most people who aren't involved in the OMGUS/tit-for-tat are probably just finding their strongest town read (for me it's Rsoult btw) and sheeping them. But at least if we lynch a lurker, we guarantee that we make it harder for mafia to keep lurking and blending in.

I recognise that there's sort of a logical tension here - I'm saying that we should lynch lurkers, but I'm also saying that all this volume of posting is also seriously town-detrimental. I guess I'm just an optimist, as I think people will eventually run out of steam soon and then we can start having some actually quasi-serious discussions.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 18 2015 20:29 GMT
#1853
On June 19 2015 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
quickly before I go

GB if you can link to a game of you putting all caps as town in this sort of situation it would be interesting


Hmm I can't remember like in this exact situation

Christma's Carol and the game I scumread Shockey for its entirety.

I think there was a newbie.

I do this all the time, man...
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2015 20:29 GMT
#1854
lol...o.0

well at least people are happy to give me a tldr

i think i'll just look at the original case and gb's filter

ummmm

sidenote (don't even know if this applies) but arguments that gb is illogical is what i did in my first game with him...it's how he is @.@ so word to the wise, arguments like that won't convince me he's scum lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Lohengramm
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
June 18 2015 20:29 GMT
#1855
LOL there's a voting thread

I may yet decide to lynch GB

regardless of his alignment I think it'll be entertaining
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 18 2015 20:30 GMT
#1856
On June 19 2015 05:27 Holyflare wrote:
always lynch scummy people not lurkers unless the lurker is scummy in which case you're still lynching the scummy person

lynching active people also gives you incredible information post flip for people's reactions and stances to the wagon whereas a lurker lynch is a massive cop out and people can just free ride it to a mislynch if they are mafia

you say day 1 is the hardest day to succeed and that's because there is no flip information, day 2 would be the same with a lurker lynch


You think there are no scummy lurkers in the game?

What happened to the boxer read?
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2015 20:30 GMT
#1857
definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE

off a terrible case xP

as town

lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 18 2015 20:31 GMT
#1858
On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE

off a terrible case xP

as town

lol ><


*NB I WASN'T A LURKER LYNCH
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 18 2015 20:31 GMT
#1859
On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE

off a terrible case xP

as town

lol ><


And I was right.

As right as I am right now.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 18 2015 20:31 GMT
#1860
On June 19 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE

off a terrible case xP

as town

lol ><


*NB I WASN'T A LURKER LYNCH


She is talking about the caps lock thing

STOP PLAYING STUPID WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
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