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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 17 2015 12:46 GlowingBear wrote: Actually, I decided to go re-read his filter and I've got another impression on his opening. It felt... bored. Meh. Breshke is right, my read on Onegu is weak. Rescinding the scumread now. ^ considering that was the focalpoint of his scumread on him, that he thought onegu's claim was "forced"...i know it's tone and you don't like tone, wbg...this actually makes sense i found him voting oneg for "forgetting" his own rule, then dropping the vote when he realized he was wrong about the rule, much more interesting and one of the things that makes me think he's town | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:05 rsoultin wrote: 1. eh, that's explained by him assuming that his list is The List, which that level of egocentrism is more likely town than scum, and breshke topped his list What? Topped his list how? Breshke was a townread in his list, here: On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote: Actual Listpost v1.0 Probs town
On June 19 2015 06:05 rsoultin wrote: 2. his defense for this point is fine, actually, unless you're completely unwilling to lynch lurkers? Given that you did not play in the previous game with us, I can potentially understand why you think this, but no, his defense was not fine. I am not willing to lynch lurkers when there are scummier people to lynch. This is not a binary "I do not want to lynch lurkers" or "I want to lynch lurkers" kind of problem and thinking in that way is oversimplifying the issue. The issue is that he misconstrued my play as saying I was willing to policy lynch lurkers in the previous game which a blatant misrepresentation. On June 19 2015 06:05 rsoultin wrote: 3. eh...sadly i think you both are misrepresenting each other's arguments here tbh Then you're not reading my posts properly. Or his, for that matter. Context matters, just go look at how he represents my play from the previous games and read the posts he quoted from Witchcraft. Ask LS if you need more confirmation, he was scum with GB that game and he agrees with me. On June 19 2015 06:05 rsoultin wrote: 4. already said don't really care if gb made a bad case. he does that. nai It's not just the case being bad, it's the way he presented it. Why would he spend 5-10 posts talking about how he's going to post a case on Breshke instead of just doing it without telegraphing it so hard? Why does he need to spend that time making it look like he's about to contribute something if he's town? On June 19 2015 06:05 rsoultin wrote: 5. all caps he's done as town. again. nai Source, please. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Anyone wanna give me cliffnotes or should i just try skim | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Mafia POV 1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me. 2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting? That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points. everyone is voting with this guy who has these reasons for voting bf literally ignores everything and says it's because of his first post (the first point is something i already brought up and he said was shit and used it again anyway LOL) this guy thinks bf is mafia because of one post bf made 48 hours ago plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.thebostoncalendar.com/system/events/photos/000/019/660/original/hipsters_testicules_394.png?1413468018) | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:06 Holyflare wrote: onegu, shockey, yamato, ritoky and mig with the wasted votes and a lot of people completely ignoring what i write about bf sweeeeet even if you're right that it's more null than scum, hf, i'm not seeing how most of this makes gb scum but i'm still parsing through it hypocrisy doesn't make people scum contradictions don't misrepresentations don't (people misunderstand things or see things differently all the time) you know what i'm saying? i just need to skip ahead to the ls read i think that's where the real money here is :/ | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
I think the weak case on Breshke makes GB look scummy since it comes at a point where he's under pressure. I think the posting behaviour (caps and emotional stuff) makes him look scummy, too. Also, he votes me because he's okay with lurkers, doesn't unvote for breshke however although he made a case on him? Nah guys it's better to lynch him over me. Regarding this: On June 19 2015 06:04 Lohengramm wrote: Yeah but his posting there was quite different than his posting here. Also, here he is coming back to the thread just before deadline to vote to save himself. eehhhhhhhhh My vote does not save me. I learned that the hard way in my first newbie game. It's tied 6-6, and afaik I'm still supposed to be hanged. Also, I said I have 10 minutes to spend and I just did that. I really want to contribute to this game but I have to read almost a hundred pages (of which I've read like 20? so far and picked some random pages because I was told to (82ish)). I get the whole "he's afk so kill him" story but you need to consider that I'll be around tomorrow, and the next day, and so on. In my last game, I said before I joined that I have an exam on 19th june so that's not a lie at all. Please consider lynchign someone who actually might be scum over someone who's just afk and can still be lynched the next day. I mean, seriously - you lynch me without having much to read me on, making it what chances exactly? while you seemingly do have at least indicators about GB being scum. :/ well your choice guys. | ||
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Lohengramm
43 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:07 Holyflare wrote: hey that's exactly what i said earlier but bugs shut me down  it's not exactly hard if he has promised to be more active tomorrow though and is complete shit thoughgb has had 48 hours to play and has actually made posts and has multiple reasons to be mafia Meh. I liked GB's mid-day stuff but when it comes to who he wanted to lynch I felt like he sort of fell apart and I could no longer follow his thought process. BF though I still don't like much at all and the timing of all of this is rather weird. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:11 wherebugsgo wrote: What? Topped his list how? Breshke was a townread in his list, here: Given that you did not play in the previous game with us, I can potentially understand why you think this, but no, his defense was not fine. I am not willing to lynch lurkers when there are scummier people to lynch. This is not a binary "I do not want to lynch lurkers" or "I want to lynch lurkers" kind of problem and thinking in that way is oversimplifying the issue. The issue is that he misconstrued my play as saying I was willing to policy lynch lurkers in the previous game which a blatant misrepresentation. Then you're not reading my posts properly. Or his, for that matter. Context matters, just go look at how he represents my play from the previous games and read the posts he quoted from Witchcraft. Ask LS if you need more confirmation, he was scum with GB that game and he agrees with me. It's not just the case being bad, it's the way he presented it. Why would he spend 5-10 posts talking about how he's going to post a case on Breshke instead of just doing it without telegraphing it so hard? Why does he need to spend that time making it look like he's about to contribute something if he's town? Source, please. refer to carol for both 5 and 6 he does this as town lol >< and i scumread him for exactly these two reasons incorrectly that game. carol is the second game in my profile | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:12 Holyflare wrote: everyone is voting with this guy who has these reasons for voting bf literally ignores everything and says it's because of his first post (the first point is something i already brought up and he said was shit and used it again anyway LOL) this guy thinks bf is mafia because of one post bf made 48 hours ago plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz + Show Spoiler + HF you know I'm voting boxerfred because going against scummy lurkers and that my townreads doesn't want to vote Breshke Stop being stupid | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:12 Holyflare wrote: everyone is voting with this guy who has these reasons for voting bf literally ignores everything and says it's because of his first post (the first point is something i already brought up and he said was shit and used it again anyway LOL) this guy thinks bf is mafia because of one post bf made 48 hours ago plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz + Show Spoiler + also, last one on this: I have fucking exams. I am learning. I tried to at least contribute a bit, however shitty or good my reads were. At least I did something and not nothing. So good night people! | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote: even if you're right that it's more null than scum, hf, i'm not seeing how most of this makes gb scum but i'm still parsing through it hypocrisy doesn't make people scum contradictions don't misrepresentations don't (people misunderstand things or see things differently all the time) you know what i'm saying? i just need to skip ahead to the ls read i think that's where the real money here is :/ no, none of those things made any sense. Townies don't misrepresent people so blatantly, they would at least admit they are wrong when like five different people point to evidence that shows them how they are wrong. Yet despite that happening GB continued to insist and flail around that what he said was true even though it was a complete lie. Fabrications are entirely scum-motivated, it makes almost no sense for a townie to say what GB said regarding how I view the game. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
there's too much lightness and back and forth and reactivity and i know he's not good at reproducing that as scum. i know that i know that i know he's not. it's what made it so obvious when i read his smurf filter...he was focused on one thing for PAGES which isn't him, even when he's tunneled | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote: even if you're right that it's more null than scum, hf, i'm not seeing how most of this makes gb scum but i'm still parsing through it hypocrisy doesn't make people scum contradictions don't misrepresentations don't (people misunderstand things or see things differently all the time) you know what i'm saying? i just need to skip ahead to the ls read i think that's where the real money here is :/ like wtf are you talking about, of course individually none of those things make someone mafia just like lurking on it's own doesn't make someone mafia and posting bad cases doesn't gb has the perfect assimilation of multiple scummy traits welcome to mafia! | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:16 rsoultin wrote: and no i don't have a ton of time to do all the research necessary for this so it needs to be something concrete and powerful rather than a collection of nitty gritty...i just...i don't think he's scum -_- there's too much lightness and back and forth and reactivity and i know he's not good at reproducing that as scum. i know that i know that i know he's not. it's what made it so obvious when i read his smurf filter...he was focused on one thing for PAGES which isn't him, even when he's tunneled wat that's literally what he's doing this game re: his scum read of me. The only difference is that he's probably self-aware of that now and his scum game actually isn't that bad. He was fairly convincing to everyone last game that he wasn't scum and they all yelled at me then for calling him scum. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 19 2015 06:14 GlowingBear wrote: HF you know I'm voting boxerfred because going against scummy lurkers and that my townreads doesn't want to vote Breshke Stop being stupid LOL NO THIS IS WHY YOU VOTED HIM TO BEGIN WITH DON'T PUSH THIS BULL SHIT NOW. HE'S STILL YOUR SCUM READ. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH HAH HAH HAH | ||
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Lohengramm
43 Posts
I feel like both of them are mafia. | ||
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