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On January 12 2015 02:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell. Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now. yeah I'm playing HotS but I still feel like barely anything HotS added was good for the game in the end : medivac speed turned TvT into a travesty of what it used to be (and forced the msc to exist), mothership core/tempest/oracle well should I say anything more, widow mine are random and needed so much rebalancing it tells of the problem they were, and muta regen swarm hosts are like the worst things that ever happened to SCII. Maybe viper was OK, ultra/phoenix/infestor changes were needed and good. But overall I'm not convinced HotS was as great as a step forward it should have been. widow mines are not random at all. Widow mines were a very good change imo
OK widow mines aren't just random, but take back muta regen and widow mines aren't needed anymore and the game is better.
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On January 12 2015 02:39 TheDwf wrote: In other news, almost 30k viewers :o
we broke 30k already , but 2k left in the break
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On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell. Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now. Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though.
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On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote: What's the DPS on the ravager's standard?
About 12.3. It doesnt look high considering the cost (100/100 total)
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On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote: What's the DPS on the ravager's standard? 16 damage every 1.3 second = 12.3 dps (+54% compared with a Roach)
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On January 12 2015 02:43 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote: What's the DPS on the ravager's standard? 16 damage every 1.3 second = 12.3 dps (+54% compared with a Roach)
On January 12 2015 02:42 DuduSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote: What's the DPS on the ravager's standard? About 12.3. It doesnt look high considering the cost (100/100 total)
Hmm... Seems a little high given its additional abilities. Maybe toning it down to 10 or so would push it back to a more support/control role?
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On January 12 2015 02:42 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell. Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now. Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though. The Zerg changes indeed seem the best
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Fleet beacon ;D
At least Crank is getting warpgate this time haha
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oracles still not fixed...
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Someone tell TB to make a new "power of Axiom Protoss" apology video.
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It feels so wrong to see early game Terran units with more hit points than Protoss ones
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Late starport, Heart pretty much lost now
and he did
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Tempest speed seems to be an issue as well as (if not more than) disintegration.
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im glad we can already play around with this lotv mod. i hope the beta etc will adjust a lot, because i dont like what i see.
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On January 12 2015 02:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote: im glad we can already play around with this lotv mod. i hope the beta etc will adjust a lot, because i dont like what i see.
Hopefully ! We still don't have any date for a closed beta do we ?
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On January 12 2015 02:45 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:42 OtherWorld wrote:On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell. Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now. Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though. The Zerg changes indeed seem the best
I like the speed upgrade for the banshee, the tank pick up for medivac and the cyclone, they allow mech to be a more mobile aggressive force, right everything is all over the place of course but mech looks much better than in HotS.
I have no idea what they want with the HERC tho
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On January 12 2015 02:45 Spect8rCraft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:43 TheDwf wrote:On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote: What's the DPS on the ravager's standard? 16 damage every 1.3 second = 12.3 dps (+54% compared with a Roach) Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:42 DuduSC wrote:On January 12 2015 02:36 Spect8rCraft wrote: What's the DPS on the ravager's standard? About 12.3. It doesnt look high considering the cost (100/100 total) Hmm... Seems a little high given its additional abilities. Maybe toning it down to 10 or so would push it back to a more support/control role? I kind of like how it fires faster, but it definitely needs some sort of role tweaking. I'd like to see it optimized against either light or armored units.
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On January 12 2015 02:49 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:45 TheDwf wrote:On January 12 2015 02:42 OtherWorld wrote:On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell. Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now. Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though. The Zerg changes indeed seem the best I like the speed upgrade for the banshee, the tank pick up for medivac and the cyclone, they allow mech to be a more mobile aggressive force, right everything is all over the place of course but mech looks much better than in HotS. I have no idea what they want with the HERC tho
They just want to add a new unit, i don't see any other reason for Herc, and even Cyclone feels a bit weird
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On January 12 2015 02:49 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 02:45 TheDwf wrote:On January 12 2015 02:42 OtherWorld wrote:On January 12 2015 02:37 TheDwf wrote:On January 12 2015 02:36 OtherWorld wrote:On January 12 2015 02:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: Of course nothing is final, of course a lot of things will be tweaked, but I see no sign here that LotV will be the "far better and more entertaining than HotS" game everybody is trying to sell. Tbh if you saw a tournament played with WoL or HotS alpha I'm pretty sure you would be thinking "wtf is that terrible game" too. Yet you're playing HotS now. Of course the games will look dumb and all since no one knows how to play, but the concepts don't give me much hope I dunno, the idea of a Zerg unit that morphs from the Roach and can control space is pretty cool to me, as is the idea of making Corruptors actually decent, just like the SH change + lurker addition, just like a Protoss AoE unit that can actually be microed looks good. Terran additions sucks though. The Zerg changes indeed seem the best I like the speed upgrade for the banshee, the tank pick up for medivac and the cyclone, they allow mech to be a more mobile aggressive force, right everything is all over the place of course but mech looks much better than in HotS. I have no idea what they want with the HERC tho
Sieged tanks pick ups are worse than colossi, it's power and mobility with no downside at all.
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