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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
Like really, it's his best chance in the game to redeem himself but he doesn't seem to be interested in contributing. (Well, not like almost anyone else has been today since my claim, with the exception of a few players.) In any case, I'd prefer a BH lynch today. Feel free to shoot questions at me and I'll answer if I'm still around. Otherwise I'll be posting more thoughts on the remaining players during the nightphase (most likely just before deadline.) At the moment I feel that I will not be shot N3 unless they consider remaining reads / play to be very threatening / correct. I will probably get shot N4 at latest though (unless protected), as I can't see them risking me nailing another one. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
How am I doing, and Ace? | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
Ace I'm a little lenient on since even though he hasn't contributed almost anything, I still get town feels from his play. + the activity problem thing, which I'm willing to give a chance for now. Don't want to see him continue to do nothing though. You on the other hand.. I may be partly biased because of your (in my opinion) retarded D1 play, also I still can't understand how you'd seriously consider me a traitor by wanting to get in the mason qt. + One of your big read posts was terrible. This one: + Show Spoiler + On April 29 2014 01:56 Palmar wrote: List of things! Combined for maximum post-saving. Hopefully this list will be enough to convince you guys for another cycle not to kill me. Please let me know if I have to do more. Blazinghand His initial posting looked really good. I think his vote on geript here: Loos really natural. His argument with yamato was also somewhat townie. Now Blazinghand is actually really good at playing scum, but most of what he has posted sort-of holds water, and is consistent. He's also dropped a few lines that make me think dude might be town. For example his sarcastic response to Sandroba's post. at the risk of being played by a trying mafia, BH gets a townread! VE He's trying which doesn't fit his town meta. But... he is trying, and some things he says sorta make sense. also, he gets town points for this read Mafia people generally don't make reads based on shit like that because they know they might get called out for it. "numbering his posts" is so hilariously weird that VE is probably town. Odin Seemed to be genuinely frustrated by the fact people don't lynch me even when I'm obvscum. Check out this post. There's really not that much else to the weak townread I have on him. It's basically that he's trying too hard and getting too frustrated to be mafia. prplhz retracting earlier townread, now I just don't know. His response to when foolishness case was awkward "Just lol at how bad Foolishness case on me is" The entire tone of that response post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21270118 feels off. then again he also has some posts that sound really reasonable, like his last post on Ace: It's a pretty natural attack with solid reasoning behind it. So he's just meh for now. if I had to make a pick I'd still go town, but I'm less sure. Sandroba Dude's mafia  the best part is he instantly defends SnB but never actually gives any kind of reasons for it. Like SnB is under attack, Sandroba votes Foolishness for pushing the case on SnB but never mentions even a single word to explain why SnB is not mafia. The closest he gets is an accociative call that the "wagon is too easy". unless I missed something. Just shoot him, he's a great vigi shot as he's useless. This is classic scumdroba though, and if he's mafia I wouldn't expect him to try hard 2 games in a row Yamato I know he dead, but he was probably town. I loved his "I'll rng shoot into the people voting SnB" stuff. No matter his alignment that was cool play JAT I saw this post here: And thought, "that looks kinda townie". So maybe he's town. It's not a strong read or anything. VA Probably mafia look at this. Shitty stance on me and caller, passive because he probs knows both our alignments. Also complaining about thread quality, classic mafia. Random shitty pre-flip association: Also he hasn't posted anything of value. Very good lynch target tomorrows because it'll force him to actually try if he's somehow town and shit. Slam Shoot it before it spreads more aids pls. Not gonna pretend I have any idea what his alignment is. Koshi Don't know if he just decided to troll this game or is mafia. Look at this: I've bolded the most hilariously fabricated reads. Then again, there is the troll and aids chance. I know I'm being a little shit, so why wouldn't Koshi be a little shit? Probably closer to the scumpile though. Ace This here: Ace KNOWS this is bullshit. He's not dumb enough to believe this is actually true. But he's still pushing it because he wants to lynch me. I'm giving Ace a #180backwardstownread for this. It's the weakest shit townread ever, but it's something. You had a townread on BH, mafiaread on sandroba, mafia on VA, wanting to kill slam w/o caring about alignment, mainly. You're both players whom I'd expect to do much better, but your play is screaming anti-town to me so far (well, the last day is just sheepy sheep), whereas Ace is just "not giving a shit". So you're both bad (at being town, this game). | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
But he isn't contributing, he's mainly just saying "Yo, I'm around, thing X sucks, thing Y doesn't, btw I wanna survive." And thinking about his play and the role I assume him to have, it makes a little bit more sense if he was mafia, but it's sub-optimal whichever alignment he is. Which is why I hope he's managed to mislead me as town and I have no idea what he's doing. There's also a small chance that he's simply going for a super lategame play. But this is not relevant nor important right now. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 04 2014 06:59 austinmcc wrote: My main problem is just wanting more STUFF in the thread. For a game with post limits, ever since D1 nobody has been getting into big trouble on posting, and there's boatloads of fucking off. It's the weekend, so that's not unnatural, but I'm in favor of less fucking off and just more STUFF in the thread. From both town AND mafia. BH's filter never looks good when I reread it. The ol' "swap to oats, NO WAIT THERE'S AN HOUR LEFT, swap back to SnB!" bit. I'm willing to vote oats ---> D2 starts and oats is scummy but he wants to push gumshoe ----> foolishness is trying to trap me in QT with oats meta, but look how oats is posting here in a different manner than he was posting in a game where he was mafia ---> voting oats for no real reason ---> hey guys, let's shennanies to a random different target is butt. Going straight from gumshoe --> oats because "we're not lynching fool" yesterday, without considering other options (and still later wanting to shennany onto palmar, real or fake). None of it's groovy. There's like, one post that I find pretty townie, but I don't think it's quite on "can't be scum" level. What I worry about re: BH is that good old 'too scummy to be scum' metric. Essentially it's like what you said: his filter looks like balls and there's a lot of classic scum play in there: push lurkers, try to get votes off your buddy, shenannies etc It just doesn't seem like scum actually play like that very often. That paranoia is setting in but I think I have meta to support the BH lynch as well. I dunno, I think plan is to stay on course because we're in very good shape if he flips red, it's just that we're in very poor shape if he doesn't. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 04 2014 07:25 Cephiro wrote: To elaborate: I think that VA is town misplaying his role (I am fairly certain what it is unless I've been fooled, which would be a good thing.) But he isn't contributing, he's mainly just saying "Yo, I'm around, thing X sucks, thing Y doesn't, btw I wanna survive." And thinking about his play and the role I assume him to have, it makes a little bit more sense if he was mafia, but it's sub-optimal whichever alignment he is. Which is why I hope he's managed to mislead me as town and I have no idea what he's doing. There's also a small chance that he's simply going for a super lategame play. But this is not relevant nor important right now. Thinking about this I actually agree, though I still want to look back at some old VA stuff to be sure. Ceph can I ask you, what is different about this game than like every other one where you barely play and just vomit out massive and usually irrelevant large posts? | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
The activity level of this game feels like the end of Catastrophe so maybe with the Oats lynch mafia has the wind out of its sails. (Perhaps that poofter guy did shoot right after all!) I really think slam's shot has been scummy and then he hasn't done much but there was a weird posts that I think Foolish pointed out at the start of day 2 where BH took the party line most mafia do of "lets lynch the lurkers" and he voted gumshoe who was first to case Oats. + Show Spoiler + On April 30 2014 00:53 Blazinghand wrote: Im glad Geript got shot, since I was probably going to push him today and I'd rather lynch scum. I could probably successfully make an Oats push, but I think where we should really be focusing is the people who weren't on either Oats or SnB at the end of D1 (especially people who voted for oats then buggered off and almost caused a no-lynch) if we want an optimal chance of hitting scum. My working theory right now is that scum hung back and let the lynch happened, as Foolishness said which IMO is accurate. It felt like a lynch propelled by badness of town rather than an active scumteam. If I had to guess, Besides Oats (who was on slam) we'd want to look at tehpoofter, gumshoe (nonvoters), and Ace, basically anyone not voting on the main wagon or the main counterwagon. Also a good luck at people who were around near the end and stayed on Oats-- anyone pushing for a no-lynch or trying to prevent us from getting our shit together. IMO if I were scum and town was having the kind of cluterfucky D1 we had, I'd just try to make some kind of excuse to not be involved and then have a blank slate going into D2. So yeah, basically sideliners. Scum doesn't need to be active to win this so far, let's change that. Gumshoe however HAS posted, just not in the past 24 hours. I don't buy his reason of having some kind of sc2 clan war, and honestly I see him as scum being less interested in actual scumhunting. When you play scum you're mostly motivated to float by rather than learn things about what's happening in the game, and that's what I see happening here with Gumshoe. Especially in this town, the emotion driving scum is fear and wanting to hide rather than like seriousness. A Gumshoe lynch is a good lynch. ##vote gumshoe I'm gonna go with JAT today as I still read him town and if hes right on BH then I'll look over Foolish again but if Jat is wrong I might have to reread him because he is really pushing this BH/Foolish connection hard. (I think too hard to be mafia but flipping BH will tell us a lot) ##Vote: Blazinghand @austin Oats had the ability to shoot all the 2nd day and decided not to despite him having to know heat was most likely coming his way. He I think could have gotten away with a Slam shot so him choosing not to shoot means either a) He for some reason thought shooting slam would cause him more suspicion b) He wasn't around to take a shot before the votes got too high c) He is mafia with any of the people he feels like he could shoot and without flips it does nothing but hurt him (i.e. Slam) For me I lean towards b or C cause honestly Slam was on my shoot list if Koshi hadn't been scummy. I wouldn't have given Oats grief over it and honestly probably given him some town cred. @Foolish I might be misunderstanding how the mason thing works but I don't understand your voting on BH if you're in a QT with him as I thought being in the QT meant you were both confirmed town. | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On May 04 2014 08:33 Tehpoofter wrote: I reread BH's filter today at work seeing if there was much in there that was townie. (It was thank god more coherent than Slam's) It looks like a lot of activity is dying in the thread and I'm a bit sketched out about the fact that everyone is voting BH who claims to be in a mason QT vs Slam who day shot someone threatening to shoot people BWing on a town. Honestly I don't find any of them particularly townie the only saving grace for BH for me has been this Mason QT thing I mean if he is fake claiming mason is a ballsy move from him as scum. I would think that has very low success because he links himself so heavily with Foolish who is forced to back up his claim. I know more about Foolish than BH and I honestly feel like Foolish would make a better play than that but it could have been he was forced to go along with the BH ploy or steam role a mafia. The activity level of this game feels like the end of Catastrophe so maybe with the Oats lynch mafia has the wind out of its sails. (Perhaps that poofter guy did shoot right after all!) I really think slam's shot has been scummy and then he hasn't done much but there was a weird posts that I think Foolish pointed out at the start of day 2 where BH took the party line most mafia do of "lets lynch the lurkers" and he voted gumshoe who was first to case Oats. + Show Spoiler + On April 30 2014 00:53 Blazinghand wrote: Im glad Geript got shot, since I was probably going to push him today and I'd rather lynch scum. I could probably successfully make an Oats push, but I think where we should really be focusing is the people who weren't on either Oats or SnB at the end of D1 (especially people who voted for oats then buggered off and almost caused a no-lynch) if we want an optimal chance of hitting scum. My working theory right now is that scum hung back and let the lynch happened, as Foolishness said which IMO is accurate. It felt like a lynch propelled by badness of town rather than an active scumteam. If I had to guess, Besides Oats (who was on slam) we'd want to look at tehpoofter, gumshoe (nonvoters), and Ace, basically anyone not voting on the main wagon or the main counterwagon. Also a good luck at people who were around near the end and stayed on Oats-- anyone pushing for a no-lynch or trying to prevent us from getting our shit together. IMO if I were scum and town was having the kind of cluterfucky D1 we had, I'd just try to make some kind of excuse to not be involved and then have a blank slate going into D2. So yeah, basically sideliners. Scum doesn't need to be active to win this so far, let's change that. Gumshoe however HAS posted, just not in the past 24 hours. I don't buy his reason of having some kind of sc2 clan war, and honestly I see him as scum being less interested in actual scumhunting. When you play scum you're mostly motivated to float by rather than learn things about what's happening in the game, and that's what I see happening here with Gumshoe. Especially in this town, the emotion driving scum is fear and wanting to hide rather than like seriousness. A Gumshoe lynch is a good lynch. ##vote gumshoe I'm gonna go with JAT today as I still read him town and if hes right on BH then I'll look over Foolish again but if Jat is wrong I might have to reread him because he is really pushing this BH/Foolish connection hard. (I think too hard to be mafia but flipping BH will tell us a lot) ##Vote: Blazinghand @austin Oats had the ability to shoot all the 2nd day and decided not to despite him having to know heat was most likely coming his way. He I think could have gotten away with a Slam shot so him choosing not to shoot means either a) He for some reason thought shooting slam would cause him more suspicion b) He wasn't around to take a shot before the votes got too high c) He is mafia with any of the people he feels like he could shoot and without flips it does nothing but hurt him (i.e. Slam) For me I lean towards b or C cause honestly Slam was on my shoot list if Koshi hadn't been scummy. I wouldn't have given Oats grief over it and honestly probably given him some town cred. @Foolish I might be misunderstanding how the mason thing works but I don't understand your voting on BH if you're in a QT with him as I thought being in the QT meant you were both confirmed town. Take another look at the OP. The listed roles may be in the game as EITHER alignment. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 04 2014 06:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Hmm Caller agrees instead of pushing his own weird shit. I kinda like it. Actually I take this back. Was he on board for Oats? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 04 2014 08:33 Tehpoofter wrote: I reread BH's filter today at work seeing if there was much in there that was townie. (It was thank god more coherent than Slam's) It looks like a lot of activity is dying in the thread and I'm a bit sketched out about the fact that everyone is voting BH who claims to be in a mason QT vs Slam who day shot someone threatening to shoot people BWing on a town. Honestly I don't find any of them particularly townie the only saving grace for BH for me has been this Mason QT thing I mean if he is fake claiming mason is a ballsy move from him as scum. I would think that has very low success because he links himself so heavily with Foolish who is forced to back up his claim. I know more about Foolish than BH and I honestly feel like Foolish would make a better play than that but it could have been he was forced to go along with the BH ploy or steam role a mafia. The activity level of this game feels like the end of Catastrophe so maybe with the Oats lynch mafia has the wind out of its sails. (Perhaps that poofter guy did shoot right after all!) I really think slam's shot has been scummy and then he hasn't done much but there was a weird posts that I think Foolish pointed out at the start of day 2 where BH took the party line most mafia do of "lets lynch the lurkers" and he voted gumshoe who was first to case Oats. + Show Spoiler + On April 30 2014 00:53 Blazinghand wrote: Im glad Geript got shot, since I was probably going to push him today and I'd rather lynch scum. I could probably successfully make an Oats push, but I think where we should really be focusing is the people who weren't on either Oats or SnB at the end of D1 (especially people who voted for oats then buggered off and almost caused a no-lynch) if we want an optimal chance of hitting scum. My working theory right now is that scum hung back and let the lynch happened, as Foolishness said which IMO is accurate. It felt like a lynch propelled by badness of town rather than an active scumteam. If I had to guess, Besides Oats (who was on slam) we'd want to look at tehpoofter, gumshoe (nonvoters), and Ace, basically anyone not voting on the main wagon or the main counterwagon. Also a good luck at people who were around near the end and stayed on Oats-- anyone pushing for a no-lynch or trying to prevent us from getting our shit together. IMO if I were scum and town was having the kind of cluterfucky D1 we had, I'd just try to make some kind of excuse to not be involved and then have a blank slate going into D2. So yeah, basically sideliners. Scum doesn't need to be active to win this so far, let's change that. Gumshoe however HAS posted, just not in the past 24 hours. I don't buy his reason of having some kind of sc2 clan war, and honestly I see him as scum being less interested in actual scumhunting. When you play scum you're mostly motivated to float by rather than learn things about what's happening in the game, and that's what I see happening here with Gumshoe. Especially in this town, the emotion driving scum is fear and wanting to hide rather than like seriousness. A Gumshoe lynch is a good lynch. ##vote gumshoe I'm gonna go with JAT today as I still read him town and if hes right on BH then I'll look over Foolish again but if Jat is wrong I might have to reread him because he is really pushing this BH/Foolish connection hard. (I think too hard to be mafia but flipping BH will tell us a lot) ##Vote: Blazinghand @austin Oats had the ability to shoot all the 2nd day and decided not to despite him having to know heat was most likely coming his way. He I think could have gotten away with a Slam shot so him choosing not to shoot means either a) He for some reason thought shooting slam would cause him more suspicion b) He wasn't around to take a shot before the votes got too high c) He is mafia with any of the people he feels like he could shoot and without flips it does nothing but hurt him (i.e. Slam) For me I lean towards b or C cause honestly Slam was on my shoot list if Koshi hadn't been scummy. I wouldn't have given Oats grief over it and honestly probably given him some town cred. @Foolish I might be misunderstanding how the mason thing works but I don't understand your voting on BH if you're in a QT with him as I thought being in the QT meant you were both confirmed town. Does anybody else absolutely hate this post? | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On May 04 2014 08:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Does anybody else absolutely hate this post? Me. It's like he is setting himself up for a BH town flip. Makes me feel uneasy. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 28 2014 13:07 WaveofShadow wrote: Don't quit, 'cause don't worry, we will. On April 29 2014 07:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh look I have a post left. Man if I were scum I'd be so happy to be in this game. I think my name has been mentioned/people have talked to me like twice. Don't really blame people though cause I feel exceptionally unless this time around ... I'll be around after deadline to talk if anyone cares about me caus I won't be dying tonight, ill be around till we lose at endgame On April 29 2014 23:16 WaveofShadow wrote: I dunno I think I just have to find someone to sheep all game. Maybe I'll make like Koshi and listen to dead geript for once? I don't think I can play this kind of format again it's killing my activity and motivation. It's funny I yelled at Slam/called him scum for saying I don't care about the game but this may be the game I've cared about the least in like, ever. Someone give me something to do. Austin you're good at that. On May 01 2014 07:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Also fucking Ace----like there is no way all of these apathetic/useless people are scum. This is why we lose. 100% It's so much worse in this game than any of the other large games I've played in. Scum can mislynch into anybody they want right now. On May 01 2014 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:... Fuck this game. ... On May 01 2014 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote: ... Alright good this game isn't as hopeless as I thought. ... On May 04 2014 08:25 WaveofShadow wrote: I dunno, I think plan is to stay on course because we're in very good shape if he flips red, it's just that we're in very poor shape if he doesn't. ![[image loading]](http://jpdery.com/animated_gifs/flag_woman_stop_hg_clr.gif) We have mislynched ONE TIME. Scum has 1 factional KP or we have a smart protect role that stopped KP last night. Nobody here is incapable of making sentences and having rational thoughts. Scum have a harder time hiding as the game keeps going. We maybe have a cop that might possibly stay alive. We probably have 12 more cops that haven't claimed (plz). Game may move slow, but come on. We're in D3; we lynched scum D2; we have good reason to believe we'll lynch scum D3. + Show Spoiler + Old gifs may be the best thing ever. HERE IS A BONUS FOR YOU WOS. WE ARE GOING TO WIN SO KNOCK IT OFF. ![[image loading]](http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100906182852/uncyclopedia/images/a/ab/Dancing_baby.gif) | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 04 2014 08:46 justanothertownie wrote: Me. It's like he is setting himself up for a BH town flip. Makes me feel uneasy. I think regardless of outcome of today's lynch I want to see poofter swing. Hell I might actually be more convinced of this now than even BH. Especially given the Koshi shot. Hmmm. I feel very marv-y atm. I think I may actually ask for some extra posts today. People's thoughts on this post and poofter in general. Go. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On May 04 2014 08:51 WaveofShadow wrote: I think regardless of outcome of today's lynch I want to see poofter swing. Hell I might actually be more convinced of this now than even BH. Especially given the Koshi shot. Hmmm. I feel very marv-y atm. I think I may actually ask for some extra posts today. People's thoughts on this post and poofter in general. Go. We are not lynching outside of the checks today Wave. Otherwise you have my support. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On May 04 2014 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Ain't no thang. But it's not like you've never mislynched before/we've never mislynched before/town has never mislynched 2x and won.Lulz sorry Austin I'm just a negative guy by nature. The reason I said that stuff is more because a town BH flip absolutely doesn't mean we lynch scum D3 because we have to re-evaluate the cop claim and all the other stuff surrounding it before we do anything, and in theory in could just be a massively time waster for scum. We'd prefer to be in a better spot, but the spot we're in is okay. And we're all awesome townies and so scum is gon' lose. Plus you'll get frown lines, if those are things. And I guess they're ... not good to have. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Vote Count: RebirthOfLegend (0) - Foolishness (0) - Palmar (1) - vayneauthority Cephiro (0) - Blazinghand (9) - Palmar, Rebirthoflegend, alakaslam, justanothertownie, Cephiro, WaveofShadow, Foolishness, Caller, Tehpoofter Alakaslam (2) - Blazinghand, prplhz Not Voting (4) - Ace, VisceraEyes, gumshoe, austinmcc Day ends in . There are 16 players alive, and it takes 9 to lynch. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Look, I haven't played great, and I've been on the wrong side of the D1 lynch and looked for shenannies on the D2 Lynch. I'll admit it! But when it comes down to it, I've actually been putting in effort to this game. I haven't had amazing reads, but that's all in the past. I could still catch scum here. It'll be even easier if slam is the scum and not ceph. The level of detail in ceph's claims and the weirdness in his role (though it's consistent with previous ver games) leads me to believe it's a real claim. Like, the whole thing abou this target choices and claim timing make sense because a D4 claim doesn't let him bring more info to the table than a D3 claim and this kind of parity cop, the kind Ver uses, doesn't benefit from anchoring checks. It makes sense. I'll offer a bit of defense that I think is worthwhile. 1. Foolishness Defense: If I were a scum masoner and not a town masoner, it would not make a lot of sense to recruit Foolishness D1 then hard-defend him. If he's town, scum-me wouldn't want to defend him QUITE so hard. I stuck my neck in the noose with his to get him out, and that's because I really do think the guy is town. If I get lynched for that, at least he's alive and I got something done. I don't see any advantage for me to do this as scum. And if Foolishness is somehow my scumbuddy and I recruited him D1, it would be supremely obvious to my subsequent mason-buddies that he and I were scum together. We've genuinely done good work together. Or at least bounced ideas. Maybe as scum I'd still recruit a town Foolishness and hard defend him, but not like this. Not in a way that turns the entire town against me and makes them want to lynch me before him. You can WIFOM this all you want but really, my hard defenses (like GK that one time I was scum and he was town) as scum don't put my life in danger like this. I'm typically the most valuable member of any scumteam. 2. Oatsmaster stuff: Look, 100% Oats was gonna get lynched. He was the 2ndary wagon D1 and the primary wagon flipped town. His scumbuddies knew that his lynch was inevitable. Yes, I was on the wrong side and had ugly timing on all the Oats wagons. I guarantee you though that as scum I would either hard bus him. The shennanies were weak and shitty, but that's mostly because shenannies rely on lots of little posts and organizing an active town, ideally in a plurality, not majority game. As scum, I would position myself not to look quite so disgusting after an oats flip. Look at me. I'm BH. Do you really think I consider Oats' life ANYWHERE near as valuable as mine? Of course not. As scum, I'd bus him in a heartbeat. I might do it for no reason just to get rid of the guy. He can't be relied on. Now, if I'm scum right now, I could be saying this to throw you off, but if I'm scum 100% I bus oats, not because I think it's some great strat, but because I disdain him. He is trash. He doesn't deserve to share a QT with a god. You know me. I'm the guy who claims survivor and sticks to it after another guy flips survivor. I'm the guy who talks about emotional breakdowns to get out of the noose. I don't care about my scumteammates, all I care about is winning, and since I'm the best player, that means bussing, not putting myself in the noose to save anyone. Not Foolishness, and certainly not Oats. Really guys, you think I tried to save Oats? 3. Cephiro. Ok, yes, I admit, I was overly suspicious of his claim. But at the time he claimed it, you gotta admit: It was a shit claim. If he was a normal parity cop, those checks would be shit checks and this would be a shit time to claim. He'd be scum. Since he's a Verparity cop, or Verity cop as I call them, then his claim makes sense. But you know who didn't question Ceph's claim? Slam. Slam just accepted it, voted me, and gave away posts. Just like he KNEW that the claim was true, and he KNEW that our alignments are different, because he's scum. When I'm town, I'm a paranoid motherfucker. I don't trust anyone. I double-check everything. I have been supremely careful about who I let in the QT, and I am pretty sure it's actually all town in there. The only guy who I didn't super check out was this last guy we added, but he's so town it hurts. Look: I doubted the claim, and I did so not cause I'm scum, but because if you were me and in my shoes and that claim came through, looking dodge as fuck, you would question it too. Slam knew the claim was real immediately, because he's scum and knows I'm town. This is my mindset, and it's just how I operate. I don't trust people. You know that about me. You know I'd lie for any reason to win a mafia game, and that's how I view others, and that's how I viewed this claim before the extra deets. All of these points you're gonna look at and thing "oh BH is saying it though"-- but stop for a minute and take an outside view and look at it objectively. It's not "too scummy to be scum", it's "too strategically ineffective at furthering scum goals to be scum". I doubt people. I put my neck out for a guy I thought was town (remember, I thought he was town enough to MASON him). I soft-defended a guy who flipped scum, but that guy was Oatsmaster, possibly the most useless player that I don't WoTC. Maybe my mindset seems foreign to you, but those of you who know me: this aint my scum play. Vote slam. I'll have an extra 96 hours as conftown, since scum is presumably shooting ceph first. I'll make it worth your while. | ||
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